FlowsionMS Down!

FMS was one of the few priv servers that gave you nothing for donating, except for a forum title and access to one extra section with a grand total of one board.

As for throwing money around...
Being a GM on it myself I can say we got paid nothing, we did what we did because it was fun.

With that said I expected us to get hit by Nexon sooner or later.

No use crying over spilled milk, and so forth.

accualy alot of the things you menion were already around. they werent publicaly released but good servers already had them. i did'nt atempt to spell well eather i know for a fact im a terrible speller. flowison didnt build anything, all he did way buy out odin teh and put his own name on it.

accualy alot of the things you menion were already around. they werent publicaly released but good servers already had them. i did'nt atempt to spell well eather i know for a fact im a terrible speller. flowison didnt build anything, all he did way buy out odin teh and put his own name on it.

[SIZE="2"]I wonder... did you even read my post?

Also, every single dev agreed with the name, so that argument is null.[/SIZE]

Now anyone see why i said the devs will continue their project after Flowsion get down?

http://xxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx/xurxxxms/ (Link censored,but,now we see )...

Oh,ok then D:!

Well...
Whatever,i'm not interested on gMS sources anymore xD

GL for him

Just a random point about Nexon over this issue. I am by no means a Nexon Fanboy, but I don't think they are necessarily doing this because they "want" to. Its similar to a case I saw on a mailing list for an author I was on a few years ago. A couple of guys created a MUD based on his books and contacted him about it. He then served them with a cease and desist order to bring down their game even though it was a text-based game and they werent charging (and had no intention to) to play the game. When questioned about it on his mailing list he replied along the lines of:
I wasnt against them for what they did. I actually played the game and was impressed with the level of detail they put in. But my legal advice told me that if someone else came along and created a game based on my works and then charged people to play, I would not be able to send them a cease and desist notice as I had let the free one go. Legally I have to stop ALL people using my work unless they pay me a licence.

This is the same situation here. If nexon lets the free pservers go on about their business, then others could charge and Nexon would not be able to stop them as they had already let some "slip through the cracks".

That's not how the law works. Not bringing legal action against a free-to-play unlicensed service does not mean that the company cannot protect their IP. For example, Nintendo of America never localized Mother 3 for GBA. Fans translated the game, and word is that employees were actually supportive of the job, because NoA was NOT going to bring it stateside. Does this then mean that another company could come by and sell a Mother 3 game?

No. If a company came by and sold a game which was identical to Mother 3, Nintendo would still be justified to bring legal action against the company, even if they had neglected to do so against another instance of IP infringement.

Laws are meant to be broken. In Alabama, you're not allowed to buy a sex toy for reasons other than medical. It's just so stupid it's laughable.

You should be allowed to choose the better quality product.

Laws are meant to be broken. In Michigan, it's illegal to shoot your neighbor in the head for insulting your haircut. It's just so stupid it's laughable.

You should be allowed to defend your honor of your appearance.

I wonder if those of you who argue about laws needing to be enforced have ever downloaded music, watched something illegally streamed online, or pirated software. I highly doubt you've done no such thing. Or hell, underage drinking or smoking.

I have in the past, but since I now have a job I have purchased all kinds of music, even legit copies of albums I already have MP3s of. As for illegal videos, well, I'll just say this: anything I've watched that is an unlicensed copy of an official product, I will, would, or have bought the product (assuming that the product was proven to not be a pile of utter crap). I used to download new Smallville episodes because I always missed the premier thanks to school. But now I own 5 seasons on DVD and will be getting the last two seasons for Christmas. Oh, I've also downloaded FLCL, but since they're not making them on DVD anymore, I can't exactly buy it either... they put FLCL on DVD or Blu-ray and I'll snatch it up in an instant, regardless of price

And as for software... bah! Open source alternatives are an easy way to avoid that. Don't use an illegal copy of Photoshop, use GIMP! Don't use an illegal copy of Office, use OpenOffice!

As for underage drug use, that is morally justifiable as it is a victimless crime. Ideally in my opinion, such laws would be HIGHLY minimal in society. Having a glass of wine on New Years Eve isn't terrible. If I'm a minor, it should be my parents' responsibility to ensure that I don't do anything irresponsible. In addition, I am against the fact that legal adults who are under 21 are not trusted by the state to be responsible with alcohol, yet we are trusted with responsibilities such as voting, army enlistment, etc.

Some laws are morally justified in breaking. Stealing IP is not one of them.

Keep in mind programming is the, from my point of view, easiest thing to do. Graphics and sounds are the hardest/most time-consuming.

It's not that bad. You just need artists who can help in the same way the devs can. I'm not saying the programmers should be artists too, I'm saying that the dev team should include people who are only there because of artistic ability.

Not the same thing as doing sprites.


How many of them have meticulously drawn the same 70 views of a character for hundreds of different items... probably not many.

That's only one way to tackle the graphics question. They could also do it as one image that is rendered at different angles by the engine. Imagine how a flash cartoon is animated. Like that. The character would be composed as many different individual images, one for the arm, one for the body, one for the legs, one for the head, one for the weapon. There would only exist one instance of each image for each piece of art, and the engine would render the character's animations by rotating and moving the individual "bones" of the "skeleton".

Then take a look at Sonic 2 HD which is doing exactly as you suggested (frame by frame animations) and they're coming along nicely for a fan game. Bit more devoted of a fanbase, but if there was a commitment to make a game similar in art style to MapleStory, I don't think it would be difficult to pull in artists to help with the project.

Another way to do it would be prerendered 3D. Create a 3D model, render in predetermined positions, compile frames to animate. Think of how Donkey Kong Country did it. This would require the work of creating a 3D model, but it wouldn't be as tedious to create the individual frames to create animations.

I beg to differ to a degree Fiel. A competent team of programmers with the appropriate testing team and/or test server can wipe out the latest hack effectively without affecting legitimate players.

A person doing something as a job will almost never do as good as job as is possible. What you're upset about stems down to the basic fact that the team at Nexon don't care about the game; it's just a paycheck for them.

Shutting down private servers isn't gonna do anything. People who've played on them aren't gonna go back to GMS unless they're really desperate to try Pirates or something.

As much as I hate the piss-ants over at Nexon, kudos to them.

I dont see how PS are "severely hurting and damaging Nexon's business"...the people who go to PS's go there because the wont spend any $$$ in GMS.

You and THIS many other people alike: way to oversimplify!

Shutting down private servers isn't gonna do anything. People who've played on them aren't gonna go back to GMS unless they're really desperate to try Pirates or something.

That is why Nexon is doing this. Take away the Private Server and everyone will be forced to go to GMS to play Pirates.

accualy alot of the things you menion were already around. they werent publicaly released but good servers already had them. i did'nt atempt to spell well eather i know for a fact im a terrible speller. flowison didnt build anything, all he did way buy out odin teh and put his own name on it.

Other servers did not have BHPQ because it was custom-made by Koriz. Other servers did not have HTPQ because it was kept private by Snow, but released also by Koriz. The d/c fix was created by PurpleMadness, but also created by TheRamon at the same time. Since FMS was an open source, many other private servers could use the source and claim that they thought of it first, it's quite ludicrous. Also, Flowsion never bought out Odinteh, Danny and Flowsion are friends and Danny needed a place to host his forums. You weren't part of the staff, so you can't comment on what happened behind the scenes.

That is why Nexon is doing this. Take away the Private Server and everyone will be forced to go to GMS to play Pirates.

just an FYI, many people do not care about pirates. No content Nexon can release will make me want to play gMS again because they cannot change how the gMS community is, nor will they change the way they run things. FMS players do not play for materialistic things.

just an FYI, many people do not care about pirates. No content Nexon can release will make me want to play gMS again because they cannot change how the gMS community is, nor will they change the way they run things. FMS players do not play for materialistic things.

Just because you don't care for Pirates, doesn't mean you can say "many people do."

Rofl @ bold though. Elitist much?

A person doing something as a job will almost never do as good as job as is possible. What you're upset about stems down to the basic fact that the team at Nexon don't care about the game; it's just a paycheck for them.

I don't know about almost never. The team of I.T. people that work for me take a lot of pride in doing their job and part of that is because I ensure that they can be successful in their job. I can't say the same thing for either Nexon's management team or the developers.

Also, I'm well past being upset as that is particularly futile in this case. But thanks for the psychoanalysis :-)


@Opeth: I really don't see how adding another class is going force anyone to return to maple. Some may return for a short while out of curiousity but the game mechanics and unbalance haven't changed.
I can see shutting down pservers as some people need to feed their addiction to maple.

Why are people acting like assholes in this thread? There's absolutely nothing worth warranting this absolute jack-assery. If you're bored, go somewhere else and kill people on Halo live. Stop beating a dead horse. There is absolutely no entertainment to be had of flaming sad people. F'ucking obnoxious brats.

If you play GMS that's great. If you didn't play FMS that's great. There's no need to call people elitist, bad-mouth people who are already being sued, nor is there any reason to mask your implicit continuous stabs. And you people always f'ucking do it time and time again. Just shut the f'uck up and stop your incessant nagging. There is a time and place where it's tolerated. And this is not the time nor the place.

And yet you'll still flame on because you obviously get your rocks off of it on a rare occasion.

If you feel that P-servers are all immoral heathens then go ahead and post that in the Burning Zone. But honestly, stop attacking other people especially when their currently at a critical junction. It just shows that you're a piece of leftover scum that doesn't know when to bloody quit.

Why are people acting like assholes in this thread? There's absolutely nothing worth warranting this absolute jack-assery. If you're bored, go somewhere else and kill people on Halo live. Stop beating a dead horse. There is absolutely no entertainment to be had of flaming sad people. F'ucking obnoxious brats.

If you play GMS that's great. If you didn't play FMS that's great. There's no need to call people elitist, bad-mouth people who are already being sued, nor is there any reason to mask your implicit continuous stabs. And you people always f'ucking do it time and time again. Just shut the f'uck up and stop your incessant nagging. There is a time and place where it's tolerated. And this is not the time nor the place.

And yet you'll still flame on because you obviously get your rocks off of it on a rare occasion.

If you feel that P-servers are all immoral heathens then go ahead and post that in the Burning Zone. But honestly, stop attacking other people especially when their currently at a critical junction. It just shows that you're a piece of leftover scum that doesn't know when to bloody quit.

YES, THANK YOU.

*gives huge cookie*

Just because you don't care for Pirates, doesn't mean you can say "many people do."

Rofl @ bold though. Elitist much?

Butterfli wouldn't wrong to state "a significant amount of GMS players don't care much about pirates", or "many FMS players don't play for new content."

"Rofl"-ing at someone serves no purpose in a discussion, either. ;(

Why are people acting like assholes in this thread? There's absolutely nothing worth warranting this absolute jack-assery. If you're bored, go somewhere else and kill people on Halo live. Stop beating a dead horse. There is absolutely no entertainment to be had of flaming sad people. F'ucking obnoxious brats.

If you play GMS that's great. If you didn't play FMS that's great. There's no need to call people elitist, bad-mouth people who are already being sued, nor is there any reason to mask your implicit continuous stabs. And you people always f'ucking do it time and time again. Just shut the f'uck up and stop your incessant nagging. There is a time and place where it's tolerated. And this is not the time nor the place.

And yet you'll still flame on because you obviously get your rocks off of it on a rare occasion.

If you feel that P-servers are all immoral heathens then go ahead and post that in the Burning Zone. But honestly, stop attacking other people especially when their currently at a critical junction. It just shows that you're a piece of leftover scum that doesn't know when to bloody quit.

It was posted on the General Section. If you don't want people like me to give my valid opinion, then you should've asked this to be locked and removed a while ago.

Butterfli wouldn't wrong to state "a significant amount of GMS players don't care much about pirates", or "many FMS players don't play for new content".

"Rofl"-ing at someone serves no purpose in a discussion, either. ;(

Sorry, but truth be told that when patch day comes, GMS is going to be overrun with Pirate newbs. Anyone who denies this is silly.

Sorry, but truth be told that when patch day comes, GMS is going to be overrun with Pirate newbs. Anyone who denies this is silly.

That still doesn't make "rofl"-ing at butterfli's argument any less ignorant or irrelevant.

Sure it does. Plenty of FMS players who posted in here have gone on and on about how FMS was the "holier than thou" server. The server where everything is RIGHT IN THE WORLD. The server that shouldn't be brought down because it was "just a place for friends" even if Nexon disagrees with them.

If that isn't elitism then I don't know what is.

Sure it does. Plenty of FMS players who posted in here have gone on and on about how FMS was the "holier than thou" server. The server where everything is RIGHT IN THE WORLD. The server that shouldn't be brought down because it was "just a place for friends" even if Nexon disagrees with them.

If that isn't elitism then I don't know what is.

I'll agree to disagree.