Sarah Palin =/= President.

Oh noes... I'm really conflicted now =(

Here i get a nice even distribution of information on both republicans and democrats (but more democrats than republicans).

At school it's ALL democrats ( I'm afraid to ask for information on McCain because I'm gonna get burned alive for wanting more information. They want me to blindly follow Oama for some reason).

At home, my dad is a full Republican. When i want more information, he gives me the Republican point of view.

I need a better source for a pro/con for BOTH sides of the presidential race. Newspapers and media are biased and so are books and magazines. The internet seems to be the only place for this, but even then most everything is partial to one side or another.

I just want something to differentiate who is who and who believes what. Can anyone help me here?

His role in signing or vetoing bills doesn't require knowledge of the law?

Biden's said he will give Obama whatever advice he thinks is necessary, I'd choose that over Palin doing whatever the hell she plans to do (has she even said? I don't think so)

Yeah, she did say. In the debate, the moderator asked the question to the both of them. Biden's statements are what you refer to, Palin also answered it. I don't feel like looking it up precisely (should be easy to find if you're curious, or worst case scenario, I can pull it out some time tomorrow or so), but it was something to the effect of "leading through areas where I have strengths" or some pumpernickel. Basically boils down to "do pumpernickel I have skills in that McCain doesn't".

And no, the president's role is signing or vetoing bills does not require knowledge of law 8)

yeah i know right its like obama didnt even THINK when he picked his running mate

A name is just a name, it does not reflect your opinions. "It may" in some cases, but not necessarily.

Yeah, she did say. In the debate, the moderator asked the question to the both of them. Biden's statements are what you refer to, Palin also answered it. I don't feel like looking it up precisely (should be easy to find if you're curious, or worst case scenario, I can pull it out some time tomorrow or so),

I watched it live, I felt she dodged the question, which is why I asked. "do what I'm good at" doesn't tell me much when she hasn't shown a talent for anything (except giving birth). Biden has opinions on things that are not just a carbon copy of Obama's, and he seems to care about what happens to America in terms of energy independence, foreign relations, and civil rights.

A name is just a name, it does not reflect your opinions. "It may" in some cases, but not necessarily.

Ok. For future reference, if I ever say something which seems outright stupid, lacks basic proper language, or is EASILY refuted by the smallest bit of logic, I am not being serious.

Stereo: I disagree. She did mention specifics (definitely ENERGY at the very least), and the general vibe I got from what she said was "I'll fill in potential holes that McCain may have". Only reason I said "[do what I'm good at]" is because I don't have the will right now to look up exactly what she said, but I did recall the gist being that she'd apply her strengths. Oh right. I think she said something about government reform too. Not that I believe that's even functionally possible, but I'm pretty sure she said it.

And yeah, I've watched it in pieces repeated over and over since it happened. I missed it live, but lemme tell you, they replay that pumpernickel all night long on CNN and I work midnights, and frankly, there isn't a whole lot on TV at that time, especially with most channels cut off due to it being a community TV in the breakroom at work. In other words: I watch a lot of CNN in the middle of the night and they been replaying this pumpernickel and commentary on this pumpernickel for days, sometimes simply repeating the same 2~3 hour block over and over all night.

I live in Chicago, which Obama's senatorial territory. When Obama was running for Senate for the first time, his Republican opponent got screwed when his divorce records were cracked open by Democrats and it turned out he "forced" his wife to go to strip clubs. Yah, the guy was a sleaze, but I loved how this miraculously surfaced at just the right time, so the Republicans couldn't find anyone decent at that point and campaign for him properly. Look me straight in the face and tell me Obama had NOTHING to do with that. Obama would have still won, fair and square, but he chose to do this instead. The man is a piece of $hit, and not the touchy feely liberal everybody seems to think he is.

My biggest deal with Obama is he was Senator for a couple terms, which doesn't qualify him for a presidential position. Kennedy had the very same issue (and strong points) as Obama running for President, won, and then the world nearly got into nuclear war during Bay of Pigs, which if you read history was completely Kennedy's fault. He tried assassinating Castro, which led him to put Russian nukes on Cuban territory. Russia was the country that backed down, but honestly, relying on Communist dictators to do the sane thing was not exactly the best idea. I remember all that more than Kennedy's pretty speeches, and that sort of thing matters more than pretty speeches, which is basically the only thing Obama is good at. McCain may have sold out, but at least he knows what he's doing.

Well we'll see November 4th who this country picks to be President..I hate discussing politics b/c majority of people that discuss it want to get into a heated debate & bring up irrelevant shiet..and basically DEMAND that I believe that their choice is the right one b/c of X,Y,Z.. when in all actual reality you WON'T know till they get in office.

I live in Chicago, which Obama's senatorial territory. When Obama was running for Senate for the first time, his Republican opponent got screwed when his divorce records were cracked open by Democrats and it turned out he "forced" his wife to go to strip clubs. Yah, the guy was a sleaze, but I loved how this miraculously surfaced at just the right time, so the Republicans couldn't find anyone decent at that point and campaign for him properly. Look me straight in the face and tell me Obama had NOTHING to do with that. Obama would have still won, fair and square, but he chose to do this instead. The man is a piece of $hit, and not the touchy feely liberal everybody seems to think he is.

My biggest deal with Obama is he was Senator for a couple terms, which doesn't qualify him for a presidential position. Kennedy had the very same issue (and strong points) as Obama running for President, won, and then the world nearly got into nuclear war during Bay of Pigs, which if you read history was completely Kennedy's fault. He tried assassinating Castro, which led him to put Russian nukes on Cuban territory. Russia was the country that backed down, but honestly, relying on Communist dictators to do the sane thing was not exactly the best idea. I remember all that more than Kennedy's pretty speeches, and that sort of thing matters more than pretty speeches, which is basically the only thing Obama is good at. McCain may have sold out, but at least he knows what he's doing.

I'm sure that wasn't Obama's doing considering the man that you are speaking about who's divorce papers got out, was married to a famous actress. I'm willing to bet she and the paparazzi had more to do with it than anything.

I live in Chicago, which Obama's senatorial territory. When Obama was running for Senate for the first time, his Republican opponent got screwed when his divorce records were cracked open by Democrats and it turned out he "forced" his wife to go to strip clubs. Yah, the guy was a sleaze, but I loved how this miraculously surfaced at just the right time, so the Republicans couldn't find anyone decent at that point and campaign for him properly. Look me straight in the face and tell me Obama had NOTHING to do with that. Obama would have still won, fair and square, but he chose to do this instead. The man is a piece of $hit, and not the touchy feely liberal everybody seems to think he is.

My biggest deal with Obama is he was Senator for a couple terms, which doesn't qualify him for a presidential position. Kennedy had the very same issue (and strong points) as Obama running for President, won, and then the world nearly got into nuclear war during Bay of Pigs, which if you read history was completely Kennedy's fault. He tried assassinating Castro, which led him to put Russian nukes on Cuban territory. Russia was the country that backed down, but honestly, relying on Communist dictators to do the sane thing was not exactly the best idea. I remember all that more than Kennedy's pretty speeches, and that sort of thing matters more than pretty speeches, which is basically the only thing Obama is good at. McCain may have sold out, but at least he knows what he's doing.

Like McCain is such a nice guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH0xzsogzAk

Sarah Palin as President of the United States of America? "to me, that is the ultimate bridge to nowhere!"

I'm sorry, but I just think she should stay in Alaska where she belongs and watch her family of what 20?

Omg i think i love you p1rates. You make me proud to be a Republican. Honestly i don't understand why McCain is geeting praised either. He is just some lazy ass senator who was born into money and decided to run for President.

Their fixed, you do know Obama was born to just some average middle-middle class (at best) couple of university students, and that he pretty much lived with just his mom. Hell he only saw his dad like a few times ever. If your going to spew out nonsense at least have SOME ounce of truth in it just to not urk the pineapple out of me. Ok even then I'll be somewhat fair, McCain wasn't exactly a millionaire from the start but he did have a long family history in military academies and what not and hes got some balls for taking the pomegranate he did while a POW but still he fucking left his first wife. Although he admittedly says it was a selfish thing to do but there are just some stains that don't wash away.

Seriously you youngin's betta hold yet toung Ore ya'lle gona get a lashin
I got friends in the military and really I feel for them but Generals only master the art of the previous war. Even if McCain has the experience (which I'm not even sure how much it will help) I can't help but think about the unthinkable, The presidency is a stressful job, who ever takes it is already asking for at least 10 years out of his expectancy which doesn't look good for McCain.

BTW I'm a registered independent so I really never had any previous bias. (I think therefore I'm politically unaffiliated )

Sarah Palin as President of the United States of America? "to me, that is the ultimate bridge to nowhere!"

Using a terrible meme that people think is clever but isn't truly at all? To me, that is the ultimate "bridge to nowhere!"

I'm sorry, but I just think she should stay in Alaska where she belongs and watch her family of what 20?

She has 5 children, if that's what you're getting at. Don't see why the exaggeration is necessary... 5 children isn't outside the realm of "normal", especially when you consider that the two oldest of them are young adults.

BTW I'm a registered independent so I really never had any previous bias. (I think therefore I'm politically unaffiliated )

How the hell can you be registered to a group if you're unaffiliated? If you're a "registered" Independent, then your affiliation is to that group. :|

And all people have a bias of one kind or another. I have no allegiance to either mainstream parties, but I am biased in favor of policies which fall in line with my own personal ideals for what I think the country should be. But it's human nature. If you didn't paint your vision of the world you wouldn't be human.

well considering none of the 3rd parties have a chance in hell and how odd and stupid Florida state law is you have to register as something as we have closed primarys. So there is my unaffiliation but is undone so by the way the system works. It's either that or when I registered to vote I got thrown for a loop but either way the same situation applies.

and I forgot to add when I meant bias I mean't towards parties. eh sometimes things don't really come out the way you want em to oh well~

How the hell can you be registered to a group if you're unaffiliated? If you're a "registered" Independent, then your affiliation is to that group. :|

But by definition, if he's independent, he doesn't belong to a group. Paradoxical.

And I pineappling hate political memes, partially because my dad likes to take them out of context to get me to stop procrastinating on schoolwork.
Bridge to nowhere, change, etc

I'm sure that wasn't Obama's doing considering the man that you are speaking about who's divorce papers got out, was married to a famous actress. I'm willing to bet she and the paparazzi had more to do with it than anything.

To be honest, sorry I got so heated about this. I hope you believe me when I say I am just trying to pretend they all don't exist.

But by definition, if he's independent, he doesn't belong to a group. Paradoxical.

An Independent~ Third party there just to steal votes
An independent~ Affiliated with no party, first, second, or w/e

guess I'll explain, In short Florida has closed primaries which means you can only vote in the one that you chose for your party. If you choose independent your free to chose the other 3rd parties IF need for a primary is there. 3rd parties usually bring up the issues that the major parties bullshit around so I took the liberty of going for that, and the fact I always hated this political party nonsense, but hell if you get a have at least 51% of the people on the same page its better then nothing even if they are ignorant morons

An Independent~ Third party there just to steal votes
An independent~ Affiliated with no party, first, second, or w/e

On a presidential ticket, you're right, independents don't do well. However, if you look at someone like Joe Lieberman, who got tossed out of the Democratic party and then won his senatorial position as an indepedent, that's not always the case. In local elections, independents get elected all the time.

Also keep in mind the case of Ross Perot, who dropped out of the race a few times, and got 22% of the national vote anyway. In the end, it's really not whether you're Democrat or Republican, it's how much money you have. The two parties have the money, that's why they do well. If some 3rd party were to be able to throw 10 billion dollars down for a presidential race, there's a good chance they'd get elected, provided they were somewhat mainstream.