New Steal: Level 1-30

Steal still sucks and I don't see any reason for any Bandit to max it, other than to have a flashy skill to plantain around with for a little while and then eventually remove from their keyboard after 4th job.

Endure is better. Would you rather have a shitty skill that you'll never use after 3rd job, or a shitty skill that, whether you notice it or not, will always be kicking in for as long as your play your Shadower?

>>Implying 4th job is a typical goal everyone reaches.

Steal still sucks and I don't see any reason for any Bandit to max it, other than to have a flashy skill to plantain around with for a little while and then eventually remove from their keyboard after 4th job.

Endure is better. Would you rather have a shitty skill that you'll never use after 3rd job, or a shitty skill that, whether you notice it or not, will always be kicking in for as long as your play your Shadower?

>>Implying I wouldn't max Endure in 3rd job. Plently of SP to go around to max it, unless some how miracously Chakra and Shield Mastery become semi useful. Shield Mastery, maybe, but in kMS we don't have your fancy Khanjar's except maybe Dragon Khanjar.

>Implying 4th job is a typical goal everyone reaches.

It usually is.

>>Implying I wouldn't max Endure in 3rd job. Plently of SP to go around to max it, unless some how miracously Chakra and Shield Mastery become semi useful. Shield Mastery, maybe, but in kMS we don't have your fancy Khanjar's except maybe Dragon Khanjar.

Shield Mastery is the most useless skill in the game. A 100% DEF increase? Dragon Khanjars have 5 W.DEF. DAMN SON!

Chakra can't be grouped in with skills like Steal and Shield Mastery. It wasn't useless to begin with, and after Nexon improved its effectiveness last year, there's no reason for any Chief Bandit to not max it.

wat@chakra. Still seems pretty low on the "priority" scale.

So, with the points you could max Shield Mastery with max Endure. Problem solved, now you can blow through 2nd job without having to 1v1 everything.

Steal still sucks. It only outdamages SB on max targets. Bandits have the best 2nd job single target skill in the game. They have no trouble outdamaging Cygnus Knights. Being forced to 1v1 wasn't that big of a problem before and still isn't now.

I wouldn't change the standard Bandit build at all. Level 1 Steal, replace it with BoT by level 80.

wat@chakra. Still seems pretty low on the "priority" scale.

So, with the points you could max Shield Mastery with max Endure. Problem solved, now you can blow through 2nd job without having to 1v1 everything.

If I could, I'd reset all my points out of useless pickpocket and put it into Chakra. Chakra is by far one of the best skills in the bandit's arsenal since, when it's maxed, it heals 300% and you only take 70% damage when hit while using it.

Steal still sucks. It only outdamages SB on max targets.

It's range is so far and the mobs everyone trains on are so packed that such a thing really doesn't matter.

Steal on 3 targets should easily out damage SB. o.o

If I could, I'd reset all my points out of useless pickpocket and put it into Chakra. Chakra is by far one of the best skills in the bandit's arsenal since, when it's maxed, it heals 300% and you only take 70% damage when hit while using it.

How does Chakra work? :x
*Ignorant of 3rd job Bandit skills beyond Meso Explosion and Guard*

It's range is so far and the mobs everyone trains on are so packed that such a thing really doesn't matter.

Steal on 3 targets should easily out damage SB. o.o

80x6 vs 130x3. You do the math.
Well, technically it's 80x6/0.96 vs 130x3/0.8 (assuming the new Steal still has the same speed), which ends up being 500 vs 487.5. SB still wins.

And no matter how packed the mobs are, it's always going to be easier to hit 1 with SB than to hit 4 with Steal.

On the flip side, maxing SB first renders Double Stab useless immediately, while maxing Steal first gives you something else to work with entirely. Double Stab isn't a bad 1v1 skill at all, especially considering its speed.

Steal in it self doesn't seem to slow, so with booster I'd assume it has a nice speed. Don't hold me against this, I don't know the technical part of this skill beyond the skill table.

Tay's build seems to imply that you're maxing Nimble Body. Which would leave you with Lv18 or Lv10 Dark Sight. Depending if you're a sindit. That'd cause you to use 2nd job SP to max a 1st job skill, a total waste. And then suggesting to use 3rd job SP to max a 2nd job skill? The build becomes too absurd by then.

Why not go as ->

 Spoiler

1st Job
Nimble Body - 9 or 10
Keen Eyes - 8
Disorder - 3
Dark Sight - 20
Double Stab - 20 or 1 or 0 = Lucky Seven - 20 or 1 or 0
You're choice on which you want to max. Double Stab or Lucky Seven. If you want to max one, and have Lv1 of the other, you're going to have Lv9 Nimble Body. If you leave one at Lv0, you'll have Lv10 Nimble Body. I don't see the point in a bandit trying to get as much accuracy and avoid as possible.

2nd job
Dagger Mastery - 20
Endure - 20
Dagger Booster - 20
Haste - 20
Steal - 11
Savage Blow - 30
Lv11 Steal gives you a three second stun, and hits three monsters. The previous posts already showed Savage Blow still being the better attack, so you're not losing out on much at all. Steal will still serve the purpose you want it for. For taking a monster's items, or stunning. Lv11 is good enough. No need to go wasting 3rd job SP on it.

3rd job
Shield Mastery - 0
Chakra - 30
Assaulter - 30
Pickpocket - 11
Band of Thieves - 30
Meso Guard - 20
Meso Explosion - 30
I don't think Pickpocket is very useful, but others think Chakra isn't very useful. I'd go with Chakra over Pickpocket. But I guess you can leave it as interchangeable.

If you must have a high leveled Steal, then sacrifice Lv21 Chakra or Lv11 Pickpocket. I don't think it's worth sacrificing either for a higher level of Steal.
Not maxing Dark Sight at 1st job is what throws everything else off.

Well I did max Nimble Body, doesn't seem that bad of an idea to do.
But the thing is I still think having max or atleast 21 steal will make 2nd job so much easier. So what if the skill get's over cast by band of thieves, Double Stab gets pwned by Savage Blow and in 4th job Boomerang Step + Steal combo sounds pretty nice but I'm not so sure on how it matches up to BStep+BoT.

wat@chakra. Still seems pretty low on the "priority" scale.

So, with the points you could max Shield Mastery with max Endure. Problem solved, now you can blow through 2nd job without having to 1v1 everything.

How does Chakra work? :x
*Ignorant of 3rd job Bandit skills beyond Meso Explosion and Guard*

Well I did max Nimble Body, doesn't seem that bad of an idea to do.
But the thing is I still think having max or atleast 21 steal will make 2nd job so much easier. So what if the skill get's over cast by band of thieves, Double Stab gets pwned by Savage Blow and in 4th job Boomerang Step + Steal combo sounds pretty nice but I'm not so sure on how it matches up to BStep+BoT.

BoT is 250%x6. Steal is 130%x4.

Well, it seems like I'm not going to be 45 by Thursday with the pace I'm training at.

 Spoiler

BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING FUKING BETTER THAN SCORPIONS FOR 45%/HR AND KOREANS SUCK AT CPQ
>8U

Oh thank god !!! No more regret on maxed Steal now.. Oh thank you Nexon Thank you so much... This new steal sounds like a fun skill. and greater chance to check on chaos scroll drops LOLLL Macro with Bstep this will be my new Macro And soon they will change the shield matery too.( hopefully) to block 10% of the dmg...instead of increase 100% of the def... Then we shadowers will be so sackse

Just to throw it out there. Steal and Dual Blade anyone?

Well, I'm still glad I maxed endure. 40 MP every 10 seconds, x6 a minute= 240 MP a minute, x60= 14,400 MP saved an hour. That's 48 mana elixers, or 30k mesos saved an hour. It may not be much, but after grinding all the way through third job i bet it adds up.

Also, chakra has a 70% damage reduction, meaning the already 50% from meso gaurd goes down to 35% of what it was before. Or are the two skills additive? I forget.

I love the new steal. It gives me yet another moneymaking idea involving Stormbreakers >_>

Well I did max Nimble Body, doesn't seem that bad of an idea to do.
But the thing is I still think having max or atleast 21 steal will make 2nd job so much easier. So what if the skill get's over cast by band of thieves, Double Stab gets pwned by Savage Blow and in 4th job Boomerang Step + Steal combo sounds pretty nice but I'm not so sure on how it matches up to BStep+BoT.

I agree that 21 ~ max steal will be useful, but only in late 2nd job when training spots where mobs of 4 are constant.