New Steal: Level 1-30

I haven't seen Fiel or anyone make one yet. I know some people were looking for it, myself included.

Manually entered by hand, so there might be some typos.

Steal

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Level	[B]Chance	[B]Damage	[B]Mobs	[B]Stun Time[/B][/B][/B][/B]
1	11%	43%	2	2 seconds
2	12%	46%	2	2 seconds
3	13%	49%	2	2 seconds
4	14%	52%	2	2 seconds
5	15%	55%	2	2 seconds
6	16%	58%	2	2 seconds
7	17%	61%	2	2 seconds
8	18%	64%	2	2 seconds
9	19%	67%	2	2 seconds
10	20%	70%	2	2 seconds
11	21%	73%	3	3 seconds
12	22%	76%	3	3 seconds
13	23%	79%	3	3 seconds
14	24%	82%	3	3 seconds
15	25%	85%	3	3 seconds
16	26%	88%	3	3 seconds
17	27%	91%	3	3 seconds
18	28%	94%	3	3 seconds
19	29%	97%	3	3 seconds
20	30%	100%	3	3 seconds
21	31%	103%	4	4 seconds
22	32%	106%	4	4 seconds
23	33%	109%	4	4 seconds
24	34%	112%	4	4 seconds
25	35%	115%	4	4 seconds
26	36%	118%	4	4 seconds
27	37%	121%	4	4 seconds
28	38%	124%	4	4 seconds
29	39%	127%	4	4 seconds
30	40%	130%	4	4 seconds

Steal builds now please.

"Prop" is the chance to steal. It's identical to the success rate of current steal. :3

That's a pretty s'hitty damage table.

The build i was thinking of is the exact same build that bandits have today but instead of getting 21 SB in 3x you max steal. Double stab is good enough for a 1v1 skill considering 1v1 isn't really needed in 2nd job anymore.

The plan is, and we'll see how well it works on January 7th, for me is:

19 Mastery -> 5 Haste -> Max Steal -> 6 Booster -> Max Haste -> Max SB -> Finish Mastery -> Points into Dark Sight/Endure.

I might switch Haste and SB, I just need opinions on if that is a good idea or not seeing as in kMS you are pretty much doomed to the Magatia
B-3 (35-45) -> C-1 (45-50ish) -> C-2(50ish-70ish) all the way through 2nd job.

The plan is, and well see how we'll it works on January 7th, for me is:

19 Mastery -> 5 Haste -> Max Steal -> 6 Booster -> Max Haste -> Max SB -> Finish Mastery -> Points into Dark Sight/Endure.

I might switch Haste and SB, I just need opinions on if that is a good idea or not seeing as in kMS you are pretty much doomed to the patter
B-3 (35-45) -> C-1 (45-50ish) -> C-2(50ish-70ish) all the way through 2nd job.

If you're going to get any amount of haste the bare minimum you'll want to get is ~10. Anything less and the effect can pretty much be emulated by a speed pot from ludi. You're better off just getting some booster.

Well, you have to have 5 haste for Steal. I wouldn't plan on actually using Haste until it's level 10 anyway.

Even with the improvement of Steal, as long as the succes rate at max is 40%, I think I'd rather have the improved Endure maxed.
And if the way Steal works in regards to the actual stealing, the only thing the improved version has going for it is the stun and mob ability.
Endure just seems like the better deal to me. Maybe I'm just being biased.

Well, too late for us Chief Bandits and Shadowers to change our builds now.

Well, you have to have 5 haste for Steal. I wouldn't plan on actually using Haste until it's level 10 anyway.

Oh, right.

Well, too late for us Chief Bandits and Shadowers to change our builds now.

It's not like you would want to.

I personally really like the range it provides, and I can see that being somewhat useful in Third Job. Depending on what you're doing though, the Stun would be a pain or a save. You can't lure well with it and the damage isn't anything great though. Fine for a second job skill but Band of Thieves or ME replace it. Could earn you a little extra cash with the extra ETC drops and then the occasional whatever else you find while spamming it to train, but yeah, there's very little real utility beyond Second.

So can we agree that maxing Steal early 2nd job will be more beneficial than maxing SB?

So can we agree that maxing Steal early 2nd job will be more beneficial than maxing SB?

Woah now. I don't think anyone implied for you to not max SB.

Woah now. I don't think anyone implied for you to not max SB.

So can we agree that maxing Steal early 2nd job will be more beneficial than maxing SB?

i am pretty sure he means maxing sb later in 2nd job not leaving it blank.

hell if you read the thread you might run into this

The plan is, and we'll see how well it works on January 7th, for me is:

19 Mastery -> 5 Haste -> Max Steal -> 6 Booster -> Max Haste -> Max SB -> Finish Mastery -> Points into Dark Sight/Endure.

I might switch Haste and SB, I just need opinions on if that is a good idea or not seeing as in kMS you are pretty much doomed to the Magatia
B-3 (35-45) -> C-1 (45-50ish) -> C-2(50ish-70ish) all the way through 2nd job.

just stating the obvious here.

Ok here is a full written plan for my Dit, I like haste and jumping around so I did it after Steal.

Code:

30- 1 Mastery (1)
31- 3 Mastery (4)
32- 3 Mastery (7)
33- 3 Mastery (10)
34- 3 Mastery (13)
35- 3 Mastery (16)
36- 3 Mastery (19)
37- 3 Haste (3)
38- 2 Haste (5) 1 Steal (1)
39- 3 Steal (4)
40- 3 Steal (7)
41- 3 Steal (10)
42- 3 Steal (13)
43- 3 Steal (16)
44- 3 Steal (19)
45- 3 Steal (21)
46- 3 Steal (24)
47- 3 Steal (27)
48- 3 Steal (MAX)
49- 3 Booster (3)
50- 3 Booster (6)
51- 3 Haste (8)
52- 3 Haste (11)
53- 3 Haste (14)
54- 3 Haste (17)
55- 3 Haste (MAX)
56- 3 SB (3)
57- 3 SB (6)
58- 3 SB (9)
59- 3 SB (12)
60- 3 SB (15)
61- 3 SB (18)
61- 3 SB (21)
62- 3 SB (24)
63- 3 SB (27)
64- 3 SB (MAX)
65- 3 Booster (9)
66- 3 Booster (12)
67- 3 Booster (15)
68- 3 Booster (18)
69- 2 Booster (MAX) 1 Mastery (MAX)
70- 2 Dark Sight (MAX) 1 Endure

I think I made a mistake in numbers around the maxing SB area.

Ok here is a full written plan for my Dit, I like haste and jumping around so I did it after Steal.

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Code:

30- 1 Mastery (1)
31- 3 Mastery (4)
32- 3 Mastery (7)
33- 3 Mastery (10)
34- 3 Mastery (13)
35- 3 Mastery (16)
36- 3 Mastery (19)
37- 3 Haste (3)
38- 2 Haste (5) 1 Steal (1)
39- 3 Steal (4)
40- 3 Steal (7)
41- 3 Steal (10)
42- 3 Steal (13)
43- 3 Steal (16)
44- 3 Steal (19)
45- 3 Steal (21)
46- 3 Steal (24)
47- 3 Steal (27)
48- 3 Steal (MAX)
49- 3 Booster (3)
50- 3 Booster (6)
51- 3 Haste (8)
52- 3 Haste (11)
53- 3 Haste (14)
54- 3 Haste (17)
55- 3 Haste (MAX)
56- 3 SB (3)
57- 3 SB (6)
58- 3 SB (9)
59- 3 SB (12)
60- 3 SB (15)
61- 3 SB (18)
61- 3 SB (21)
62- 3 SB (24)
63- 3 SB (27)
64- 3 SB (MAX)
65- 3 Booster (9)
66- 3 Booster (12)
67- 3 Booster (15)
68- 3 Booster (18)
69- 2 Booster (MAX) 1 Mastery (MAX)
70- 2 Dark Sight (MAX) 1 Endure

I think I made a mistake in numbers around the maxing SB area.

Looks fine to me.

i am pretty sure he means maxing sb later in 2nd job not leaving it blank.

hell if you read the thread you might run into this



just stating the obvious here.

Today 08:36 AM

Looks fine to me.



Today 08:36 AM

Last edited by Tay; Yesterday at 09:08 PM.

so no, really

Last edited by Tay; Yesterday at 09:08 PM.

so no, really

That's the time stamp for this post. (ie. MINE)

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If you still don't get it, i pulled an all-nighter and was high, was really tired and didn't know what the f'uck was going on.

And yes, i know you can't know that by the time stamp.

Ok here is a full written plan for my Dit, I like haste and jumping around so I did it after Steal.

Code:

30- 1 Mastery (1)
31- 3 Mastery (4)
32- 3 Mastery (7)
33- 3 Mastery (10)
34- 3 Mastery (13)
35- 3 Mastery (16)
36- 3 Mastery (19)
37- 3 Haste (3)
38- 2 Haste (5) 1 Steal (1)
39- 3 Steal (4)
40- 3 Steal (7)
41- 3 Steal (10)
42- 3 Steal (13)
43- 3 Steal (16)
44- 3 Steal (19)
[B]45- 3 Steal (21)[/B]
46- 3 Steal (24)
47- 3 Steal (27)
48- 3 Steal (MAX)
49- 3 Booster (3)
50- 3 Booster (6)
51- 3 Haste (8)
52- 3 Haste (11)
53- 3 Haste (14)
54- 3 Haste (17)
55- 3 Haste (MAX)
56- 3 SB (3)
57- 3 SB (6)
58- 3 SB (9)
59- 3 SB (12)
60- 3 SB (15)
61- 3 SB (18)
61- 3 SB (21)
62- 3 SB (24)
63- 3 SB (27)
64- 3 SB (MAX)
65- 3 Booster (9)
66- 3 Booster (12)
67- 3 Booster (15)
68- 3 Booster (18)
69- 2 Booster (MAX) 1 Mastery (MAX)
70- 2 Dark Sight (MAX) 1 Endure

I think I made a mistake in numbers around the maxing SB area.

2 Endure.

Ok my dit is coming up on level 38 lol.
I guess I'll put point into now and continue leveling so it's semi effective by thursday.

Steal still sucks and I don't see any reason for any Bandit to max it, other than to have a flashy skill to plantain around with for a little while and then eventually remove from their keyboard after 4th job.

Endure is better. Would you rather have a shitty skill that you'll never use after 3rd job, or a shitty skill that, whether you notice it or not, will always be kicking in for as long as your play your Shadower?