Stimulators

Using Maker, what exactly do they affect?
I used 4 while making shoes and all they changed was the defense.

From what I've gleaned from Southperry, I think they remove the possibility of below average stats in exchange for a 10% fail rate.

Oh, that makes sense.
Thanks.

@Blaine
Fact.
Also I've used about 7 topwear stims, all turned out avg

From what I've gleaned from Southperry, I think they remove the possibility of below average stats in exchange for a 10% fail rate.

And I think everyone gleaned it from the Maker Manual (which I copied then chucked immediately afterwards).

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And I think everyone gleaned it from the Maker Manual (which I copied then chucked immediately afterwards).

[COLOR="Red"]Shush you.

I never even read that...[/COLOR]

You can't even read all of it, some of it is cut off at the bottom =/

It ends with "...materials used for making the item will disappear." I've checked, there's no more to it.

My wife's Reverse Diesra came out with higher attack than just from the diamond while using a stim. The chances of them working seems low though, because out of 5 tops i made only one of them got +1 dex and another +2 def. The 10% chance of failure is more than a bargain for avoiding below average stuff though.

My wife's Reverse Diesra came out with higher attack than just from the diamond while using a stim. The chances of them working seems low though, because out of 5 tops i made only one of them got +1 dex and another +2 def. The 10% chance of failure is more than a bargain for avoiding below average stuff though.

Getting +1dex out of 3 possible results [-1dex, 0dex, +1dex] (or 2, with a stim) would be relatively less likely than getting +1/+2/+3/+4/+5 out of [0, +1, +2, +3, +4, +5].

Getting +1dex out of 3 possible results [-1dex, 0dex, +1dex] (or 2, with a stim) would be relatively less likely than getting +1/+2/+3/+4/+5 out of [0, +1, +2, +3, +4, +5].

When I say low chance I am comparing them to something like a chaos scroll. Not that I expected to see several stats jump up like that, but I had secret hopes.
All I'm really saying is that people shouldn't expect to get supergodlyawesomesauce gear for throwing in a stim.

Stimulators don't completely cut out the negative stat possibilities out but rather just convert them to zero. Like if you had a weapon with a variance of 5 to weapon attack, you would have a range of -5 to 5, or -5, -4, -3, -2, -1, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. The stimulator just converts this to 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, so you have a bit more than a 50% chance of getting an average result on a specific stat (not to say that getting +5 is equally likely as getting +0, I'm just assuming the chances are the same for both ends of the variance).

Stimulators don't completely cut out the negative stat possibilities out but rather just convert them to zero.

Hence why stimulators work 'better' on items with wider fluctuation range.

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Or if you'd prefer to put it, easier to make an above-avg item, which is desirable in most cases.[/quote]

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[COLOR="Red"]Lol'd.

So, Cyanne, that leaves you with the same exact % chance of getting +1,2,3,4, or 5, and just stretches the % for even/average?[/COLOR]

[COLOR="Red"]Lol'd.

So, Cyanne, that leaves you with the same exact % chance of getting +1,2,3,4, or 5, and just stretches the % for even/average?[/COLOR]

Oops, my bad.

And yes. So if you aim for 3+ above and only 3+ above, there would be no need for stims.

Technically it's a slightly smaller chance with a stimulator due to the <10% bomb rate, but intentionally shooting for a decent amount above average isn't very realistic because of the low chances. You'll probably want to rely on the effects of an advanced black/dark crystal for that, which, in my experience, I've seen to have equal chances of each result (-3 through +3 or -5 through +5), unlike natural variation. Black/dark crystals' effects are applied after those of stimulators though, so you may still come out with below average even with a stimulator.