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2x Drop Event
#21
Combattente Wrote:Too right. I hope they'll fix it. But I doubt it: neither Entitlement's 2x Drop works.

Should just point out that 2x drop cards and 2x events/entitlements aren't meant to work the same way.

2x events double the frequency of drops, 2x cards double both frequency, and quantity of mesos dropped. The cards are always better.. but both are an improvement over nothing.
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#22
Stereo Wrote:Should just point out that 2x drop cards and 2x events/entitlements aren't meant to work the same way.

2x events double the frequency of drops, 2x cards double both frequency, and quantity of mesos dropped. The cards are always better.. but both are an improvement over nothing.

That's how 2x drop events are supposed to work. However, they don't.
Or didn't.
http://www.southperry.net/forums/showthread.php?t=7520

I'm tempted to go back to that mini-dungeon for one hour of the upcoming 2x drop events, just to check whether it's been fixed.
Too bad the event hours are 2am-4am for me.
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#23
Stereo Wrote:Should just point out that 2x drop cards and 2x events/entitlements aren't meant to work the same way.

2x events double the frequency of drops, 2x cards double both frequency, and quantity of mesos dropped. The cards are always better.. but both are an improvement over nothing.

2x drop cards makes the server "draw" twice. That is, if there's 60% chance of gaining an item, then there's 0.4^2 chance of not gaining it with 2x drop cards.

2x drop events however, doubles the probability rate. That is, you'll have a 120% (lowered to 100, though) chance of gaining the item.

Well, that's how it used to work.
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#24
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#25
Sorry to double post myself for this (but this way people will actually read this post), but Nexon seem to have forgot their 2x drop event yesterday...

IsaacGS also confirmed this when I talked to him... so don't expect -anything- to happen during the times posted in this thread...

I guess the Nexon failboat armada just wont stop... xD
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#26
Yeah we were discussing this (while enraged!) yesterday. I posted a thread on the Nexon forums in the hopes that -Hime- or someone would see it and say something to whoever is in charge, regardless of how unlikely it is. I imagine she probably did and they were like "Yeah okay we'll do it tomorrow" because that's the american way.
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#27
So the 2x drop events still don't work?
Not too surprising; they haven't worked since last May.
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#28
Stereo Wrote:Should just point out that 2x drop cards and 2x events/entitlements aren't meant to work the same way.

2x events double the frequency of drops, 2x cards double both frequency, and quantity of mesos dropped. The cards are always better.. but both are an improvement over nothing.

Well, sorry to say, but I don't agree.

Even if the 2x Drop isn't meant to double the mesos (but I think it should work that way), many people didn't see any difference between hunting with a 2x Drop event and hunting without. A guy even said that he/she got LESS equips than he did when there was 2x Drop.. Tongue

However, all the things that are supposed to double the MESO RATE only (for example, some Monster Card's buffs) also double the drop rate. For example, people who got the Monster Card "double mesos" buff, also noticed an increase of the drop rate (more equips, more monster cards, etc.).

That's weird, isn't it? To me, they've screwed something up with the server's code for 2x Drop events. Redface
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#29
Combattente Wrote:Too right. I hope they'll fix it. But I doubt it: neither Entitlement's 2x Drop works.

Yes it does. The way you can tell is to find a monster that drops ETC items more than 50% of the time. (Which is most of them.) Then use 2x drop and every kill will drop an ETC item. Family 2x drop works... I used it on 100-year-old Bellflowers to get that 1000 ETC secret reward, and I didn't once have a kill with no ETC drop while I was on the 2x. 1.5x also worked fine. I also got their card and more equips while I was using 2x, but that isn't the proof of it.

2x drop cards work differently than 2x drop events. 2x drop events don't modify the meso amount.

Also, the amount of equips you get in a single session can vary so much... It's not really surprising if you get a lot of variation in equip drops, since there's such a low chance already. If you take statistics, read up on the Law of Large Numbers... Essentially, you need more trials to go toward the true average rate if the rate is very low or very high.

EDIT: I'm not denying that 2x drop used to not work. But family 2x does work right now.
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#30
Morgana Wrote:Also, the amount of equips you get in a single session can vary so much... It's not really surprising if you get a lot of variation in equip drops, since there's such a low chance already. If you take statistics, read up on the Law of Large Numbers... Essentially, you need more trials to go toward the true average rate if the rate is very low or very high.

EDIT: I'm not denying that 2x drop used to not work. But family 2x does work right now.

*Understands the note you made*

Just to point out for people, someone did a test of x2 vs non x2 for a long amount of time imo. While some stuff like ores and equips didn't change much (and isn't a good indicator), etc values were relatively close and no where near even say a x1.2 amount.

And like someone said above, x2 drop events haven't worked since forever. The code is probably wrong, maybe a typo or the process isn't going through.
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#31
Sn1perJohnE Wrote:From what im guessing, they are hoping to level the playing field with the box events. In that, anyone can really go and get a box and get an item that may either help them, or help them get the item they want. Its nice for those who have always been the underdog (me included in most areas) and bad for those that want to run everyone else to bankruptcy.

But this is really only able to work because it is a game, in real life its a horrible concept to run with (Obama......)

oh yah bad idea....... that's why "The recession is almost over", "The DOW has gone up by 100 points again", is on the news every single day.

Oh yes, terrible idea.
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