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Brave Slash and Axes - Lasten - 2010-06-26
One thing I've noticed is that Brave Slash follows a Slash/Slash/Stab animation.
Now if this animation was accurate, could this possibly put Axe Heroes ahead of 2h Sword (and possibly 1h Sword) Heroes in overall damage output?
Typically 2h Axes are 94% the strength of 2h Swords.
Axes follow a 3:2 Slash/Stab ratio correct?
Now assuming 2/3 attacks out of Brave Slash are Slashes this puts it out at 66% Slash/Stab ratio.
66% is 1.1 of 60%.
That's 10% overall extra damage dealt with Axes over old damage calculations.
Perhaps it's time to begin stocking up on 50% Axe scrolls.
It would help immensely if someone with a Hero in KMST could post a screenshot (or 2) of a Brave Slash on a Snail equipped with any 2h Axe.
Brave Slash and Axes - Kalovale - 2010-06-26
I believe Cyanne said they removed Slash/Stab damage entirely, confirm?
Brave Slash and Axes - Link - 2010-06-26
Kalovale Wrote:I believe Cyanne said they removed Slash/Stab damage entirely, confirm?
I think it's true. When I was playing on the Crusader in KMST, axe damage with Brandish seemed to be just as stable as sword damage.
Brave Slash and Axes - IllegallySane - 2010-06-26
ShiKage Wrote:I think it's true. When I was playing on the Crusader in KMST, axe damage with Brandish seemed to be just as stable as sword damage.
Great to hear Axesaders are not borked any longer. Now if I can only find out if Paladins are in the same boat or not.
Brave Slash and Axes - Nalek - 2010-06-26
My axe sader is very happy with this news
Brave Slash and Axes - Link - 2010-06-26
Yeah, but it's a damn shame that axes don't have the same weapon speed as swords, so swords still beat axes by a long shot.
Brave Slash and Axes - Lasten - 2010-06-26
Thanks for the news, I was not aware of this. However:
2H Axe: 1.27*(4 * STR + DEX) * (Weapon Attack / 100)
2H Sword: 1.29*(4 * STR + DEX) * (Weapon Attack / 100)
I suppose then, that Axes will again be left in the dust?
I highly doubt the 2-3 Attack extra that comes with Axes will compensate for a 1.575% loss in overall damage, not to mention that 1h Swords and Shields are still stronger then 2h Swords.
Brave Slash and Axes - Dusk - 2010-06-26
Axes are also typically slower. They should implement something like a 5% slash bonus or something. There's hardly any differences between the weapons except for aesthetics now.
Brave Slash and Axes - Kalovale - 2010-06-27
HOLD THE F'UCK ON!!! DOES THIS MEAN SPEARMeN WILL NO LONGER BE LOLSPEARMEN???
Wt'f is the point of Spear/PA distinction now? Spear Fury doing 100% damage potential? F'UCK YES!
Brave Slash and Axes - Dusk - 2010-06-27
Kalovale Wrote:HOLD THE F'UCK ON!!! DOES THIS MEAN SPEARMeN WILL NO LONGER BE LOLSPEARMEN???
Wt'f is the point of Spear/PA distinction now? Spear Fury doing 100% damage potential? F'UCK YES!
Yeah, exactly. System seems dumb.
Brave Slash and Axes - ScherzoDeLuce - 2010-06-27
time to get some high atk purple surfboard & super snowboard then. polearm crusher ftw!
Brave Slash and Axes - Sorien - 2010-07-04
If they really are taking our the damage difference with stabbing and slashing, I'd be very tempted to go get some good BWs for my Paladin and take advantage of the obscenely cheap BW scroll priced.
Brave Slash and Axes - Phoenix - 2010-07-06
Sorien Wrote:If they really are taking our the damage difference with stabbing and slashing, I'd be very tempted to go get some good BWs for my Paladin and take advantage of the obscenely cheap BW scroll priced.
Not to mention the insanely high base att and speed of crushed skulls.
Brave Slash and Axes - Stereo - 2010-07-06
Speed? The Crushed Skull is slower than every one handed sword, and some of the 2 handed ones (being Normal 6).
I'm probably gonna be doing the opposite, picking up a 2h sword to take advantage of higher speed + atk + better damage formula. It's not like scroll prices mean anything, when the Reverse weapons all cost exactly the same, as do every other makerable weapon.
Brave Slash and Axes - Phoenix - 2010-07-06
My mistake, I was under the impression Skulls were Fast (5).
It's too bad, because 50% one hand BW scrolls float for ~30mil in Scania.
Brave Slash and Axes - Stereo - 2010-07-06
Highest fast(5) 1h BWs are the Colorful Tube (lv.70, 85 atk), the Cosmic Scepter (lv. 70, 85 atk? Might be 84-86), and the Yellow duck tube (lv.100, 90 atk) which has the distinction of being the lowest w.atk level 100 weapon..