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What character is the strongest? - MrSoyMilk - 2009-09-08
All jobs at lv 200, (shadowers NOT considering meso explosion), all jobs have perfect equips, ie all timeless weapons perfectly scrolled, NLs have all balanced furies (infinite), corsairs have best bullets (infinite), BMs and MMs have best arrows (infinite), etc.
What is the strongest job of all?
In other words, ASSUMING INFINITE healing potions (MP and HP ONLY, no buff potions, no apples, etc, only using their own skills, no party skills from OTHER PPL) over AN HOUR of continuous attacking (please DO consider skill cool-downs), which job will do the most damage over that hour? (also assume the monster has infinite hp, has 0 avoid, has 0 def and magic def)
If you state a job, please specify also if it is secondary-statless or whatever it is.
This, hopefully, is a fun thread to discuss lol.
What character is the strongest? - Dusk - 2009-09-08
what are we attacking here
and lol shadowers not counting ME. You realize that Shadowers do more damage with Boomerang Step and Savage Blow than ME, right?
What character is the strongest? - MrSoyMilk - 2009-09-08
a hypothetical monster that doesn't attack you. it just has a bunch of hp and 0 def and mdef. requires 0 acc to hit.
What character is the strongest? - Dusk - 2009-09-08
Corsairs by far
(you've presented the best possible scenario for Corsairs)
What character is the strongest? - Cyanne - 2009-09-08
If solo, an mp-washed bowmaster I guess, longest needed buffs and basically no 100-attack limit. Though it'll probably actually be like a corsair or something.
What character is the strongest? - Stereo - 2009-09-08
Corsairs ideal target is a non-attacking enemy, at which they do more damage than every other class by a wide margin, so ... corsair.
What character is the strongest? - kingdj333 - 2009-09-08
i bandwagon and say...... White Knights.
wait a minute! :f6:
What character is the strongest? - USMC - 2009-09-08
^That's so true, I just hope this hypothetical monster is at least neutral(elemental weakness? wtp r u talking about?)
What character is the strongest? - Corn - 2009-09-08
Does the monster attack?
What character is the strongest? - randompeep - 2009-09-08
ClawofBeta Wrote:Does the monster attack?
MrSoyMilk Wrote:a hypothetical monster that doesn't attack you. it just has a bunch of hp and 0 def and mdef. requires 0 acc to hit..
What character is the strongest? - Corn - 2009-09-08
randompeep Wrote:-snip-
Ah. Didn't see his other post X_X.
What character is the strongest? - CarrionCrow - 2009-09-08
Being strongest... That's not enough information. Highest damage per hit, fastest dps, the range of the attack, and a myriad of other factors play in.
It not even about dps... if you simply aim to sawk a bishop for the duration of your 4th job i guess the big numbers and such might be important, but if you intend to actually play, versatility is where the real power lay. Being able to dish out the highest damage to mobs make you a mage, and their single target ability is mediocre. If you wan't huge damage on a single target, you are a BM or a NL, and loose out on strong mobbing. Avenger is usefull and not that weak, but it can't even begin to compete against say a polearmer DrK or a MM.
Personally I'd say Marksmen and Corsairs win as the most versatile characters, and ergo imo the most powerfull. HP is not even an issue if you don't crave to fight P bean. If so, heroes would be your best bet.
What character is the strongest? - Corn - 2009-09-08
CarrionCrow Wrote:Being strongest... That's not enough information. Highest damage per hit, fastest dps, the range of the attack, and a myriad of other factors play in.
It not even about dps... if you simply aim to sawk a bishop for the duration of your 4th job i guess the big numbers and such might be important, but if you intend to actually play, versatility is where the real power lay. Being able to dish out the highest damage to mobs make you a mage, and their single target ability is mediocre. If you wan't huge damage on a single target, you are a BM or a NL, and loose out on strong mobbing. Avenger is usefull and not that weak, but it can't even begin to compete against say a polearmer DrK or a MM.
Personally I'd say Marksmen and Corsairs win as the most versatile characters, and ergo imo the most powerfull. HP is not even an issue if you don't crave to fight P bean. If so, heroes would be your best bet.
Look at the situation he posted.
What character is the strongest? - KhainiWest - 2009-09-08
I'm actually talking with my friends to make me a 'private' private server and get some people to help me create a 'matrix' like they have available on world of warcraft where it keeps track of the DPM.
What character is the strongest? - fiftyschmooo - 2009-09-08
Wow.. why as no one posted this link.....
http://www.southperry.net/forums/showthread.php?t=7019
he made a thread and a giant excel spreadsheet about this, how about you look around for stuff before posting about it not like it was stickied or anything.. oh wait.. yes it was ^_^ and his chart clearly states that a corsair will win in this situation and he even adds in the 4 second snipe from Marksmen(even tho i hear all the time its glitched and wont work every 4 seconds more liek 5-7 seconds or something)
What character is the strongest? - Holypie - 2009-09-08
Single target, Corsair. Mobbing, Arch Mage or Aran.
What character is the strongest? - Takebacker - 2009-09-08
It's silly to think the aran has worse mob damage than an AM if there's 15 targets right in front of them.
What character is the strongest? - CarrionCrow - 2009-09-08
ClawofBeta Wrote:Look at the situation he posted.
Yea.. might have been a tad off topic then, but still I'm getting tired of how people tend to think damage is all it takes in every sitution.
What character is the strongest? - Holypie - 2009-09-08
Takebacker Wrote:It's silly to think the aran has worse mob damage than an AM if there's 15 targets right in front of them.
I said AM OR Aran.
What character is the strongest? - IllegallySane - 2009-09-08
In this thread we find out who don't pay full attention reading posts.
Takebacker Wrote:It's silly to think the aran has worse mob damage than an AM if there's 15 targets right in front of them.
How often are there going to be 15 monster perfectly lined up for the Aran to mow down? How often are there going to be 15 mobs scattered around within the AM's range of fire? That's why he said EITHER AM or Aran. It's not often the Aran will have 15 mobs right in front of them, but when they do, I wouldn't be surprised if the Aran wipes them out faster than an AM can. Case in point? Combo Peril can probably be built up from 0-100 by the time the AM finishes nuking once, which is essentially a guaranteed mob killer for the Aran.