BadWolf Wrote:nexon making maplestory fair to play is a very big risk to take because of 2 reasons:
1. a lot of people pay big money for "cubes" etc, if those things were to be removed, it's not highly unlikely that they can be sued and ultimately go bankrupt. making maple(which is NOT open source) shut down for everyone

Satellite Wrote:2. I don't like this logo:


Can't point at exactly what bugs me in it, but the design is just generic and somehow like it would be more fitting for some dumb iPad puzzle game.

SoR0XaS Wrote:By prequel, I'm guessing it's set around the Elin Forest timeframe? That, or before the Black Mage is sealed.
Inb4 able to fight Black Mage

BadWolf Wrote:the only point in making is that it was harder, you can calculate the exp charts but it was still harder in terms of gameplay.

And about revenue, you can check the homepage and see for yourself the crap I was spewing out of my ass hoping i was right, or wait, maybe this data i was basing on hard proof?
no matter how diplomatically you try to type, i am still right. maplestory was harder to level in before the big bang and revenue has gone up. i'm sorry if you can't face the reality.

If the game was harder right now I wouldn't have a character in level 190 I would be under level 70. but yeah i guess because a simple calculation of the amount of exp it takes to level up judges the entire time and effort that it takes(sarcasm).

PoetryIsFail Wrote:Did, did you really just?

KhainiWest Wrote:Yeah, it was so hard to clear map with an ultimate you could spam. All you did was party with a bishop and kill whatever it didn't. I have been playing since the start, I even started as a strength chief bandit, you have no idea of "difficulty".

Let's talk about reality since you're so goddamn oblivious to it.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/nexon-announces-third-quarter-2013-061500140.html

http://www.insidesocialgames.com/2012/05/14/nexons-q1-net-income-hits-12-3-billion-yen-up-60-year-on-year/

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20130212006835/en/Nexon-Reports-Fourth-Quarter-Fiscal-Year-2012

I just put the top 3 search results because you shouldn't be so goddamn lazy. Before you go on a tangent about "OH, LOOK GLOBAL REVENUE UP 20% LOLOL SEE I WAS RIGHT", the numbers you should be looking at are regional, and Nexon america, who has a steady decline of 15-25% for the last year (all 4 quarters). That kind of means, that they aren't actually making much of a profit now does it? Yes the regional profits matter, DFO being a prime example as it was closed down in North America, but makes more revenue than maplestory in Korea.

Hows your foot taste?

To further challenge your "lol im 190 instead of 70", we're talking about beyond 200. you do realize that getting from 185-200 is like getting to 1-185 all over again? That doesn't suddenly make 1-185 easier, it's proportional. They made it easier for you to get to 200 because that's when you have access to all your skills. See back when I played, and coolies were your best option, level 130 was this years level what, 225? And if you go back farther, with red drakes, it was more between 81-85 that people capped at.

Pre big bang was a joke after 4th job was introduced, Ultima's made ridiculous exp gainage. So I don't know what game you're playing, but reaching the level cap is harder than it ever was. And it'll slowly creep up to become another joke, when another child comes on here talking about how easy it is then compared to now.

Aka you're wrong princess.

BadWolf Wrote:Yes dummy and you know it's true. Do you really think MS will be fair to play? That's my opinion on why it won't be.
Maybe in your imagination you can simply delete cubes and potential after people make you rich and buy so much of it but in the real world that can be called a scam and people won't stay quiet if it happens.

BadWolf Wrote:Do you think that, oh I don't know, the first 10,000 people on ranks won't care if suddenly there was no potential system or cubes?
People think that just because I say pomegranate which is true that it means I like how things are... Maybe try to understand that we don't always get what we want, eh?
Go spend 300$ on making your 260 ATT VIP weapon have 44% all stats etc and then see that this potential will be taken off, suddenly more logical huh? Get out of your ass, if you want to play the MapleStory of 2005 go join (Hey, did you know mentioning private servers is infractable? Read the R&R!) or download a beta client and play the game offline because that's as close as you are gonna get.

BadWolf Wrote:Revenue has gone up people and you can't deal with it but try watching the chat-box when double miracle time is up and see what happens and why revenue goes up.
Dead server or no, during those events you can't keep track of how much cubes are being bought and used and that's that.
Welcome to the real world... There are way more horrible people in this world then Nexon Corp and you can't just do something like remove potential systems because that's illegal fundamentally.

Badwolf Wrote:Oh, who is jumping to conclusions now? Let me throw those words right back at you, saying I was a Spearman with full DEX. Also Band of Thieves was OP.
Look sonny boy you can go on with your attempt to diplomatically show that you're correct about this but I am still right, Nexon Crop is still profiting and they have enough shizzle to come that guarantees they will stay for a while.
Priceless assuming I'm a kid, too. Don't you just love it when people... What did you call it? 'Jump to a conclusion'?
Trust me I know as much as you do and we can keep arguing that I am right or that you are more.. 'Mature' or 'experienced' in this game but I'll still be right and like I said you'll still be seeing thousands of dollars spent during double miracle time and you'll still be seeing people reach LV.200 in a day and you can blab about how much 200 to 250 is hard but I still think that it was harder back then and now it is easier. I am simply saying that I think 200-250 isn't as hard as people say because I've seen people train on 1x over LV.200 and pomegranate was way harder at way lower levels back in the day.

KhainiWest Wrote:So because he disagrees with your opinion, he is then stupid, even though an opinion is *subjective. Okay.



HM, IF WE CAN'T TAKE IT AWAY, AND THE GAME HAS BECOME DEPENDENT ON IT....JUST MAYBE, I DUNNO, GREATER ACCESS TO IT?

Seriously we've had these conversations before and you're 20 f`ucking steps behind. Everything in the game, including cash shop should be accessible by playing, so NX should be rewarded to little things like taking down a boss or completing party quests. And by a few I mean less than 1 frekin dollar. You think that will mess up with revenue stream they are currently not making? No because then NX becomes a shortcut to those who are tired of grinding to use 1/1 billion cubes they require. In fact it probably encourage revenue to go up for them to invest just enough to complete the pq's efficiently.

Your solution of just letting them mow over you is a clear hintage of you being masochist.



I'm too lazy but @Zelkova; has shown the population stream during these "events" and they are pathetic. Your entire argument is based on assumptions that people have been proving wrong for the past 2 years.

KhainiWest Wrote:So because he disagrees with your opinion, he is then stupid, even though an opinion is *subjective. Okay.



HM, IF WE CAN'T TAKE IT AWAY, AND THE GAME HAS BECOME DEPENDENT ON IT....JUST MAYBE, I DUNNO, GREATER ACCESS TO IT?

Seriously we've had these conversations before and you're 20 f`ucking steps behind. Everything in the game, including cash shop should be accessible by playing, so NX should be rewarded to little things like taking down a boss or completing party quests. And by a few I mean less than 1 frekin dollar. You think that will mess up with revenue stream they are currently not making? No because then NX becomes a shortcut to those who are tired of grinding to use 1/1 billion cubes they require. In fact it probably encourage revenue to go up for them to invest just enough to complete the pq's efficiently.

Your solution of just letting them mow over you is a clear hintage of you being masochist.



I'm too lazy but @Zelkova; has shown the population stream during these "events" and they are pathetic. Your entire argument is based on assumptions that people have been proving wrong for the past 2 years.



Where's your backup. I provided mine, and you got nothing. And lol full dex spearman. I guess that's cute, but I was managing 3 stats at once before CB was even released, let alone your opinion on "Broken" BoT, let me put it in a way you can understand, child, Dragon Knights were mainstream for a f`ucking reason.

The math shows you that you have to get to 1-200 over 250 times, do you happen to have 250 characters that are level 200? 1-200 was nowhere close to that, depending on what "generation" you want to talk about.

You're wrong, I just showed you their profits, you deny them with nothing more than ignorant statements and denial. Your credibility is now sucked up from an inescapable void, your face is stained with sh`it, keep walking. You can pull those shenanigans at basilmarket/maplestory forum, but not here.

BadWolf Wrote:lmao ok I am a masochist just because I can't see them making pomegranate less profitable.
and yep i know what zelkova showed just like ya.
so no my argument isn't based on assumptions it's based on proof and just because some pomegranate is going downhill, you think that zelkova who is just another player like us can really predict that the game is gonna shut down. that's funny.

you know brah maple's population isn't going down starting the second you saw that site.

BadWolf Wrote:Keep talking like a kid from the 1st grade you seem so damn smart boy.
I only deny your lack of desire to face the reality.

badwolf Wrote:you know brah maple's population isn't going down starting the second you saw that site and guess what? maple is still running updates left and right and people say it sucks and others say its fun.

Chew Wrote:Now back to original thread; now that I think of it, it would be awesome if they use the same 2d-3dish like Ragnarok does.

KhainiWest Wrote:Who's predicting anything about the fall of maplestory? Are you so insecure about the time you f`ucking wasted on a company who would abandon you on a moments notice? Are you so prideful you'll even denounce cold hard numbers?.

-The population is in fact on a steep downhill spiral

-Nexon America is losing 20% of their profits per quarter, even with like 8 frekin double miracle hottimes over that course of time.

-Your argument is assumptions or you're ignoring evidence, either way it's straight up f`ucking ignorant.

But who gives a sh`it about someones opinion when they are delusional. You're way to thickheaded, even when the facts are clearly there, even spoonfed to you, so I'll just make sure the people who have to read your propaganda at least can see the truth.



Get the f`uck out unless you have any actual facts to back your f`ucking statements up or have anything substantial to supply to the thread. How people like you function is beyond me.

BadWolf Wrote:i have no idea what youre trying to accomplish here because you are acting like a kid, all i say is that i think things will continue. ive known what you keep typing way before you typed it. i am the one who mentioned 3rd quarter of revenue.
i understand you think differently and i'm sorry if the fact i am , pisses you off.
the fact that you have the means to hit 200 so fast proves how much easier it is.
you are only spoonfeeding yourself to become a keyboard-criminal.

KhainiWest - Reputation Wrote:100.00% of 18 voters Seems prone to drama

Satellite Wrote:@KhainiWest Your convo is tl;dr but I actually agree with many of your points. However, considering how deeply you get into these MapleStory debates, it makes me wonder why you waste your time arguing over a game you've quitted (I think?)

Also:



Seems pretty accurate.

KhainiWest Wrote:It's fun.