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MapleStory 2, welcome. - Endgame - 2014-07-06
The different continents are on different servers. You have to go through ships and loading screens to travel between them.
MapleStory 2, welcome. - Polantaris - 2014-07-06
Luxeraph Wrote:Polantaris may I ask what would you not consider not open world? is the ability to revisit areas and/or go to areas that far outlevel you enough?
Any world where you are free to go wherever you want in that world with little to no limitations, at any point in your character's life (except an early game scenario, like a tutorial or something like that), is open world.
In all of the examples I have provided, the player is welcome to go to places that vastly outlevel them, they are allowed to travel all over the world. The world is open to them. They can do things in whatever order they want. They are not limited to going in a linear path.
Games like Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy may have a vast world, but for the most part are not open world, because you are restricted to doing certain things in certain orders. You are, for the most part, not allowed to go somewhere before you should be there. There's little to no choices to where you can go.
In games like Guild Wars, Maplestory, and Ragnarok Online, you are free to travel around the world as you wish. If you run into a place that will slaughter you, that's just how it goes when it's open world. It was your choice to go to those areas. I can travel over to Orr in Guild Wars 2, if I really want to, at level 10. Can I survive there? Not a chance, but I can go there. How is that any different than starting Skyrim and going straight to Windhelm? The only reason I would survive there is because of Skyrim's level scaling system, which is not a part of an open world concept. In Ragnarok Online, I can go straight for Ice Cavern at Level 10, or I can go to Payon Cave L4. Or I can go to a multitude of other areas. In MapleStory I can go straight to Arant at Level 10, or to Ludibrium Tower. Or to Korean Folk Town. Or to a multitude of other areas there as well.
These games all share those common traits. They are open world because of the choice to travel the game world how you choose, not because it's some gigantic vast area that's mostly empty and pointless.
Just because people play Maplestory as if it were a linear game does not make it a linear game. It is still open world. People choose to make it not open world and that's no one's fault but the players. Hell, I'd say the MS Development team went out of their way to improve the open-worldness of Maplestory. You guys just choose not to take advantage of it because it's, "not optimal leveling." The amount of times that people get upset because new content is not max level content is crazy. They continually expand the open world, but you guys just don't want it.
MapleStory 2, welcome. - Dark Link - 2014-07-06
Luxeraph Wrote:I can't tell since I haven't ever played WoW but I'm pretty sure WoW world is like L2 world and although a look at the map makes it look divided
Yeah it looks divided cause each race has their own separate starting zone, which are the 1-10 (or 1-12) sections. The arrows basically say where each zone story leads into.
MapleStory 2, welcome. - Luxeraph - 2014-07-07
Polantaris Wrote:-snip-Between this and the wikipedia page I have to agree that Dystopiq(and myself to some extent) is using the wrong term, now I wonder what is the term for a huge open map/world(a la GTA) that isn't open world(btw I'm not being sarcastic here).
MapleStory 2, welcome. - Polantaris - 2014-07-07
Luxeraph Wrote:Between this and the wikipedia page I have to agree that Dystopiq(and myself to some extent) is using the wrong term, now I wonder what is the term for a huge open map/world(a la GTA) that isn't open world(btw I'm not being sarcastic here).
I'm not really sure open world isn't the correct term for those either. They're just different kinds of open world games.
Think about how we have so many different types of games that qualify under the term "RPG". Both Dragon Quest and Skyrim classify as RPG's, they're just different kinds of RPG's.
Although GTA is more like an open-ended mission-based game, but it does have its fair share of open-worldness.
MapleStory 2, welcome. - Tsundere - 2014-07-07
I think the difference could be this:
MapleStory: Maps have ids, and are loaded separately and uniquely at different times upon server startup.
I think what Dystopiq and others are trying to convey in their open world definition is that maps are all connected, and are loaded basically at once when the server starts. In this open world definition, the maps are not separate or identified uniquely like in MapleStory, since the World Map is basically just one map. rather than separately as in MapleStory.
The MapleStory Map.wz depends heavily on the mapid of the map, rather than just setting a certain area with coded x/y coordinate positions on the world map to determine a new area.
MapleStory 2, welcome. - Dusk - 2014-07-07
Luxeraph Wrote:I can't tell since I haven't ever played WoW but I'm pretty sure WoW world is like L2 world and although a look at the map makes it look divided
Spoilerit's actually seamless with a couple dungeons where you can only enter via a NPC(although those areas are along side the rest of the world) so IMO it looks more like what Dystopiq draws as open world(huge world thats one large map with a few small dungeons that aren't directly connected to the rest of the world).
![[Image: L2PortalMap.jpg]](http://www.l2portal.com/Images/Maps/L2PortalMap.jpg)
Yeah, the entire world is seamless, you only get loading screens when you go to a different continent, or you enter an instance (dungeons, raids, PvP). Raid instance entrances look like this though, a doorway not an npc.
MapleStory 2, welcome. - Dystopiq - 2014-07-10
Polantaris Wrote:Nope. Wrong.
Large ImageWorld map of Ragnarok Online. Extremely open world. Fits the "circle chart" of the Maplestory side.
[Very large image, click at your own risk.]
World map of Guild Wars 1. Extremely open world. Also fits the "circle chart" of the Maplestory side.
Another ImageWorld map of Guild Wars 2. Extremely open world. Also fits the "circle chart" of the Maplestory side.
Both sides of your chart are Open World. They're just different types of Open World. You're wrong if you think the right side is exclusively open world. When you have a choice to go where you want, and don't really have any specific direction you are required to go, it is open world, whether you like it or not. You may not like that type of Open World, but that's no one's problem but your own. You've been deluded into thinking that the Elder Scrolls kind of open world is the only type of open world that exists.
![[Image: e9a4ebae92.jpg]](http://puu.sh/9ZV0D/e9a4ebae92.jpg)
![[Image: Gw2-World-Map-Labeled.jpg]](http://gw2.junkiesnation.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/8/2012/02/Gw2-World-Map-Labeled.jpg)
GW has VAST OPEN maps. Maplestory's maps are small. Try again.
MapleStory 2, welcome. - Eos - 2014-07-10
There's an existing definition regardless of everyone's individual interpretations; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_world.
MapleStory 2, welcome. - FrankerZ - 2014-07-11
![[Image: 14071100_zps7943360b.jpg]](http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/MariaXLexxie/media/14071100_zps7943360b.jpg.html)
MapleStory 2, welcome. - Slip - 2014-07-22
A new BGM has been revealed. Quite the familiar tune.
[video=youtube;sx61ECIM4D8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx61ECIM4D8[/video]
MapleStory 2, welcome. - Mazz - 2014-07-25
Some more gameplay/combat, and another look at all of the classes:
[video=vimeo;101590746]http://vimeo.com/101590746[/video]
MapleStory 2, welcome. - Takebacker - 2014-07-25
PvP eh?
Looks like it won't be horrible this time around.
Also, was that thief holding a pan lid???
MapleStory 2, welcome. - Mazz - 2014-07-25
Takebacker Wrote:PvP eh?
Looks like it won't be horrible this time around.
Also, was that thief holding a pan lid???
The character at 1:41 (not sure what class it is) is holding a Pan Lid and a Frying Pan haha
MapleStory 2, welcome. - FrankerZ - 2014-07-25
Mazz Wrote:The character at 1:41 (not sure what class it is) is holding a Pan Lid and a Frying Pan haha
I'm pretty sure that was either the warrior or beginner holding that stuff.
MapleStory 2, welcome. - chrome - 2014-07-25
Mazz Wrote:The character at 1:41 (not sure what class it is) is holding a Pan Lid and a Frying Pan hahayesssss this is the best kind of continuity
MapleStory 2, welcome. - Marksman Bryan - 2014-07-25
archers confirmed squishy
MapleStory 2, welcome. - FrankerZ - 2014-07-25
I'm not sure if it just me, but at 3:50 that team pvp looks pretty similar to LoL pvp.
The map on the right looks kinda like a LoL map and there is monsters marching down the path.
MapleStory 2, welcome. - Polantaris - 2014-07-27
FrankerZ Wrote:I'm not sure if it just me, but at 3:50 that team pvp looks pretty similar to LoL pvp.
The map on the right looks kinda like a LoL map and there is monsters marching down the path.
Or it's open world PvP, which I hope not. I dunno if they've ever said one way or the other in regards to that.
MapleStory 2, welcome. - FrankerZ - 2014-07-27
Polantaris Wrote:Or it's open world PvP, which I hope not. I dunno if they've ever said one way or the other in regards to that.
Nah the pvp we see is probably in an instanced area, however in the customization video for supporters day we can see a player actually hitting another player with an object.
So there seemingly open world pvp too, though I'd imagine you could turn it off.
also the translations for the questions at the end.
Q: Do you plan to add more jobs?
If we did add more jobs, they would not be like Hero classes. But for now, I believe we should focus more on balancing our current 8 jobs and making sure each of them have unique characteristics.
Q: Will there be PvP content?
Yes, there will be. Currently, the fighting is very ‘hack and slash’ but we hope to develop battle roles more in the future. There is going to be a variety of PvP conditions because we want to consider users who generally dislike PvP.