Zelkova Wrote:Your little level 30 thief didn't know what they were in for when they roamed to Bains. Then boom, fireball to the face, then into the lava.

Eos Wrote:Darksight?

Plus that's sort of how an open world works... you can wander into anything.

Hypermug Wrote:And Magic Guard!

But yeah, agreed. Otherwise, I'd have to re-classify games like Fallout 3

Eos Wrote:How wasn't it? :f6:

My little level 30 thief can/could roam virtually anywhere.

Endgame Wrote:Maple Story didn't even have proper instanced maps until years into the game's life, and even now doesn't use them in plenty of areas where they'd be handy. (Party Quests.)

Maple Story only loads one map at a time, but it is very much open world by design for the reasons already mentioned, in that you will encounter other players on the same map on the same channel, etc., just a more primitive, low end PC friendly way.

Even WoW has to load different continents when you travel between them. There's even a "portal" to enter the Blood Elf area from the Plaguelands.

Dystopiq Wrote:What part of VAST and OPEN do you not get? Here's a better example. Grand Theft Auto. It's vast, open, non linear. Maplestory is not vast and open.

Zelkova Wrote:Psh tell me how this is not linear.

I can start training on Snails and I can CHOOSE to go to either Blue Snails, Red Snails OR Slimes

Zelkova Wrote:Psh tell me how this is not linear.

I can start training on Snails and I can CHOOSE to go to either Blue Snails, Red Snails OR Slimes. MapleStory is a true open world MMORPG with branching skill trees, quick time events, Oculus Rift support, Kinect integration, and even a Free Market. Take that WoW.

Dystopiq Wrote:What part of VAST and OPEN do you not get? Here's a better example. Grand Theft Auto. It's vast, open, non linear. Maplestory is not vast and open.

Hypermug Wrote:Of course. I'm sure most would agree that MS is nothing like GTA's sandbox world. But on the other hand, I feel that Maplestory conceptually is more similar to an open world game, with its emphasis on exploration, the possibility of anyone and everyone entering maps, and the non-linearity of game progression. It might not fit the definition of a traditional, open world game, but I can see why myself and others wouldn't label it the opposite.

Dystopiq Wrote:GTA isn't Sandbox. That's a whole different thing. As for exploration, that is bullpomegranate. Nexon made maps smaller or removed them. Whatever semblance of exploration this game used to have is slowly being ripped away.

Hypermug Wrote:http://www.techopedia.com/definition/3952/sandbox-gaming If you don't consider it that, just replace sandbox with another word.

And yes, originally MS had many large maps to explore, but they've steadily been taking them away :/

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Dystopiq Wrote:Every map is instanced and separate. You need to take a portal to reach them. They are not vast open areas. They are small. The Elder Scrolls is open world. WoW is open world. Maplestory is not.

Polantaris Wrote:Seriously?

Firstly...almost no maps in MapleStory are instanced. Instancing happened very late in the game. Before about two years ago, you had to wait for any party-exclusive maps, like Zakum, Horntail, even PQs. Who remembers the masses waiting for a Kerning PQ channel to open up? That's not instanced. Instancing is a thing that happened very recently in MapleStory and the majority of maps still do not do it. To my knowledge, most PQs are not instanced (haven't played in a while but fairly positive this is still true). All regular training maps are not instanced. The vast majority of the game is not instanced.

Secondly, separate? Maps being separate and a game being open-world are not mutually exclusive things. The overall section of the world is vast, and generally pretty open. Yes, you can only go on certain paths...but how is that any different than any other game? Eventually you hit an invisible wall, or a giant mountain, and are forced down a specific path. Those are your portals. Are you going to tell me a game like Guild Wars is not open world because there are area portals, even though you can literally go anywhere you want in the entire game world(baring some specific story requirements that are generally few and far between)? What about Ragnarok Online? You going to tell me that game isn't open-world because its maps are separate?

I have the distinct feeling that you're using the wrong words for what you really expect/want.

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