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[1.2.320] Massive Buff - Takebacker - 2010-06-21
Bull f'ucking s'hit @ the buccaneer updates.
[1.2.320] Massive Buff - kremechoko - 2010-06-21
Rigumaro Wrote:Exactly as Fiel said, accuracy/avoid formula is even worse now... I used to hit the new newties (lvl 142 if I remember correctly) like 20% of the time. But now I 100% miss on them. I'll try again the blue leafre turtles after I finished patching (Yes another patch. KMST was as buggy as early OdinMS xD)
Edit: And omg at lvl 1 Rapid fire. 192% damage... I do 15k+ with it o_o.
My lvl 5 cannon is 203% damage x 3. They buffed the battleship skills, but being off ship is still better for me.
NEw patch, what? I'm still logged on.
[1.2.320] Massive Buff - Hazzy - 2010-06-21
Quote:Assaulter's damage reduced to 180%
Assassinate's damage decreased to 480%
Quote:damage reduced
damage decreased
Quote:REDUCED
DECREASED
Seriously? Everyone else gets massive buffs, and shadowers get nerfs. What's with the hate, Nexon? I don't even play Shadowers and I'm mad. D:
[1.2.320] Massive Buff - Alloy - 2010-06-21
Ryukiroku Wrote:It doesn't feel right to have a 3rd job skill replace a 4th job skill in certain situations but I welcome the change in relation to L7.
Ah, but it's still useful! Triple throw does practically twice the damage on a single target. And you get to choose wisely your attacks. OH, also, is it me, or did avenger get to use only 1 star now, too?
[1.2.320] Massive Buff - Templar - 2010-06-21
Pride Wrote:I shat brix.
again.
![[Image: w9xsh0.jpg]](http://i50.tinypic.com/w9xsh0.jpg)
DO WANT. Looks like the range has increased on BB as well
[1.2.320] Massive Buff - LegendGospel - 2010-06-21
I came at Bishop updates. But it seems really weird that Angel Ray has no range... it's a freaking arrow, shouldn't it... travel in air?... a lot more?
Still, I see Angel Ray being very useful, and I'm hopeful for more updates now that I've seen this.
Also probably nobody cares, but w00t at Cygnus' Hurricane and Meteor Shower
. I play both characters and they still need to become 120.
[1.2.320] Massive Buff - Farfetch'd - 2010-06-21
You guys realize that the previous Assaulter was 1360% damage on one monster? That alone is stronger than a ton of 4th job skills. :|
Right now it's 720% on one monster, that's still as strong as, or even stronger than some 3rd job skills.
Band of Thieves was ultimately buffed from 390%/5 mobs to 460%(230%+230%)/5 mobs.
The speed of BoT pretty damn fast so a continuous chain of 460%/5 mobs is already ridiculous on its own.
AND, considering Bandits are melee classes, the 1300% reflect skill is tons more useful than it is on a NL. Getting hit for 1500 damage, that's like 19k damage back right there.
[1.2.320] Massive Buff - xAyakoCx - 2010-06-21
If this tsunamies onto eMS, well, let's say I'm going to grind beforehand, then when this comes out, grind grind grind.
[1.2.320] Massive Buff - Rigumaro - 2010-06-21
kremechoko Wrote:NEw patch, what? I'm still logged on.
I feel so dumb. I launched KMS instead of KMST. I realized when first patch ended, and then started another one xD.
[1.2.320] Massive Buff - Scheifen - 2010-06-21
Do want, ALL of these changes.
but with the effectual removal of ultimates, the range on AR needs a small buff, even though people will probably be training with BB now... :f6:
[1.2.320] Massive Buff - kremechoko - 2010-06-21
xAyakoCx Wrote:If this tsunamies onto eMS, well, let's say I'm going to grind beforehand, then when this comes out, grind grind grind.
Would you really want to do that?
Have you seen how great the EXP curve is? X__X
[1.2.320] Massive Buff - Cactuar - 2010-06-21
Farfetch'd Wrote:You guys realize that the previous Assaulter was 1360% damage on one monster? That alone is stronger than a ton of 4th job skills. :|
Right now it's 720% on one monster, that's still as strong as, or even stronger than some 3rd job skills.
Yeah. 720% on 1 monster. BoT hits for more in a short time, so does Savage Blow (510% and nearly twice as fast). Hell, steal ATM is better than Assaulter. It's pathetically weak and slow and, while maybe it needed the nerf, still doesn't compare to anything especially if it no longer ignores WDEF.
Quote:Band of Thieves was ultimately buffed from 390%/5 mobs to 460%(230%+230%)/5 mobs.
The speed of BoT pretty damn fast so a continuous chain of 460%/5 mobs is already ridiculous on its own.
BoT is really nice. Not going to lie. Best attacking skill shadowers have now next to BoT. The problem is, assassinate still has the beyond dumbass charging system in addition to being slow.
Quote:AND, considering Bandits are melee classes, the 1300% reflect skill is tons more useful than it is on a NL. Getting hit for 1500 damage, that's like 19k damage back right there.
Yeah, but we only take 50% damage so it's really closer to 750% reflected. 520% reflected with Greed.
[1.2.320] Massive Buff - LegendGospel - 2010-06-21
About Hermit's Avenger being a 3rd job skill that is still used in 4th job at some situations...
Be happy about it :O that feels like an awesome skill selection... I mean it's actually a 3rd job skill OVERPOWERING a 4th job skill on 2+ targets! How sweet is that? Plus, NL's really needed that kind of choice when attacking. You know, something more than spamming TT.
[1.2.320] Massive Buff - Link - 2010-06-21
Takebacker Wrote:Bull f'ucking s'hit @ the buccaneer updates.
I don't get it. What?
[1.2.320] Massive Buff - Hazzy - 2010-06-21
If NLs retain any bossing supremacy after this Revamp, then a super-buffed Avenger is only going to make them train really fast. Flash Jump, high avoid, damage reflect, and a fast attack combined with mobbing? :|
I think Nexon still loves NLs.
[1.2.320] Massive Buff - FrozNlite - 2010-06-21
FANTASTIC buffs to Magicians. Excellent way to go, and I'm especially glad to see the Big Bang changes (along with new pictures). Big Bang, at max, is now just as strong as Meteor Shower per monster, and with (what looks to be) a roughly 300% AoE range compared to ~120% is very, very nice.
Paralyze changes look nice too, but it feels weird looking at the skill as a mobbing AoE after using it as a directional single target for so long. But it will definitely be nice to train with, comboing with Big Bang to freeze + finish.
In the end, I hope Bishops are extremely excited. THESE are the buffs they needed without crafting a new skill, and, though AR desperately needs a range increase (300% please), things are definitely looking up for the class.
Oh, and I'm still curious to see how the Demon/Summon combo pans out with ArchMages. We now have concrete data about the DoT effects, but whether or not the skills reset mob elements and make them weak to a particular element is still unknown.
[1.2.320] Massive Buff - Sn1perJohnE - 2010-06-21
Hazzy Wrote:If NLs retain any bossing supremacy after this Revamp, then a super-buffed Avenger is only going to make them train really fast. Flash Jump, high avoid, damage reflect, and a fast attack combined with mobbing? :|
I think Nexon still loves NLs.
Dont forget the skill that makes them get MISSed :c\
[1.2.320] Massive Buff - Alloy - 2010-06-21
LegendGospel Wrote:About Hermit's Avenger being a 3rd job skill that is still used in 4th job at some situations...
Be happy about it :O that feels like an awesome skill selection... I mean it's actually a 3rd job skill OVERPOWERING a 4th job skill on 2+ targets! How sweet is that? Plus, NL's really needed that kind of choice when attacking. You know, something more than spamming TT.
EXACTLY! That's EXACTLY all I wanted from my NL. More choice of attacks. In fact! The combination of Drain buffed to 240% and the removal of PUNCHOUT make drain the ultimate life saver now. Less dependant on criticals to survive. So yeah, I think this is all that NLs needed.
IF ANYTHING, make flash jump lagless like recoil shot, but I'm loving these changes anyways, so it seems like a good way to stay now.
Hazzy Wrote:If NLs retain any bossing supremacy after this Revamp, then a super-buffed Avenger is only going to make them train really fast. Flash Jump, high avoid, damage reflect, and a fast attack combined with mobbing? :|
I think Nexon still loves NLs.
Ah! But look at Sharp eyes now. We won't be so dependant on it now, since they rethought the way criticals work (Before it only helped NLs, now it helps everyone). Sure, we'll have good DPS, but everyone's getting even, and the potential scroll system just makes everyone way more equal. I'm loving how this is being handled.
[1.2.320] Massive Buff - deeME - 2010-06-21
Isn't the new reflect skill Assassin line only? Pride's thread says so o_O
Loving the shadower nerfs so far >_>
[1.2.320] Massive Buff - Alloy - 2010-06-21
deeME Wrote:Isn't the new reflect skill Assassin line only? Pride's thread says so o_O
Loving the shadower nerfs so far >_>
Apparently, both lines get it, only at second job. Easy to oversee.