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KMS 1.2.201 - MapleStory FLY - Festival - Aggravate - 2013-09-12

JoeTang Wrote:They said there was an attack speed buff for Laser Blast, might be something they forgot to include, or for some reason it's a delay that doesn't use the one in the data.

It seems to be the latter for some reason? http://en.channel.pandora.tv/channel/video.ptv?ref=em_nom&ch_userid=cige16&prgid=49024745

There's a noticeable reduced delay in that video.

KMS 1.2.201 - MapleStory FLY - Festival - Takebacker - 2013-09-12

Dat 1% damage increase

KMS 1.2.201 - MapleStory FLY - Festival - Arrg - 2013-09-12

Fun fact:
Max's blog Wrote:Mechanic Dash: can now be used in the air
it was all a lie

Mechanics might as well not exist at this point. they're useless as pomegranate at ra bosses, magnus, and anything similarly requiring mobility. The only 3 things you can do in siege hovercraft mode is regular attack (similar to tank mode's normal attack), move, and jump. No dash, no buff, no other attacks.

KMS 1.2.201 - MapleStory FLY - Festival - PirateIzzy - 2013-09-12

The Hovercraft seems useless to me. There's no way that the attack in Hovercraft mode is as fast as Siege Mode.

KMS 1.2.201 - MapleStory FLY - Festival - Aggravate - 2013-09-12

Arrg Wrote:Fun fact:

it was all a lie

Mechanics might as well not exist at this point. they're useless as pomegranate at ra bosses, magnus, and anything similarly requiring mobility. The only 3 things you can do in siege hovercraft mode is regular attack (similar to tank mode's normal attack), move, and jump. No dash, no buff, no other attacks.

Technically, it looks like a crappier version of WA's Wind Walk. http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjA1OTg0MzU2.html

Yeah, it doesn't look like they're planning on fixing the issues with Mech any time soon.

KMS 1.2.201 - MapleStory FLY - Festival - Arrol - 2013-09-12

Aggravate Wrote:Technically, it looks like a crappier version of WA's Wind Walk. http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjA1OTg0MzU2.html

Yeah, it doesn't look like they're planning on fixing the issues with Mech any time soon.

Haven't been touched in nearly a year and this is what Nexon presents to them? They're spreading their hate on the Mechs I see.

KMS 1.2.201 - MapleStory FLY - Festival - Chilly - 2013-09-12

I really enjoy the concept of the Mechanic and I really enjoyed the playstyle when making multiples when Character Card stacking worked. It is a shame they can't get any love when their counterparts Wild Hunter get a modest boost and Battle Mages who were already good after the introduction of BKB (during Hypers) get buff after buff after buff. It's starting to remind me of other classes that always seem to get the short end of the stick while a particular class in their group always get buffs.

KMS 1.2.201 - MapleStory FLY - Festival - Takebacker - 2013-09-12

I feel like nexon just doesn't know what mechanic's role is, or how to fix their class design failures.

KMS 1.2.201 - MapleStory FLY - Festival - Arrol - 2013-09-12

Takebacker Wrote:I feel like nexon just doesn't know what mechanic's role is, or how to fix their class design failures.

The last couple of reorganizations seem to prove that.

KMS 1.2.201 - MapleStory FLY - Festival - Prism - 2013-09-12

Takebacker Wrote:I feel like nexon just doesn't know what mechanic's role is, or how to fix their class design failures.

What is mechanic's role? This is a serious question. I really don't know what they do for a party other than damage. I mean I guess they have their little teleport pods.

KMS 1.2.201 - MapleStory FLY - Festival - Takebacker - 2013-09-12

Prism Wrote:What is mechanic's role? This is a serious question. I really don't know what they do for a party other than damage. I mean I guess they have their little teleport pods.

I didn't mean role as in their service to the society of maple world characters. What they contribute to a party, etc. Role is more of what makes them different from every other class. Why they are worth existing as a class.

Party skills at this point, aside from the bishop because they define their role, are chiefly a way to make a class viable to fund. (mobility is in the same category basically)

Basically if mechanics are supposed to be the summon oriented, tank quality ranged class that it is, what upgrades could they get to highlight those qualities? They got a bunch of survivability based buffs in this update, but they were squishy already imo and this doesn't really make them close to paladin tier defense that are required of a tank. Their summons, similarly, are not highlighted as being essential due to the start up costs and lack of major dependance on them for DPS (they do depend on them to be competitive but the impact isn't as high as it should be for such a role). When compared to even my own class where every summon is both a massive boost while also being extremely low start up with some utility thrown in, the summon king title gets overshadowed. That's what i mean.

KMS 1.2.201 - MapleStory FLY - Festival - Bribery - 2013-09-12

imo Mechanics need better mobility and summons that are easier to use.

These are the changes I would have liked. They're pretty simple changes that would fix a lot of Mechanic's problems without a significant overhaul of the class.

Dash: Increase the movement distance.
Open Portal: GX-9: Should have infinite duration.
Rock 'n Shock: It's currently impractical at most bosses. It should be changed to something similar to Thief's Dark Flare after RED.
Acceleration Bot EX-7: Effects should apply to bosses.
Healing Robot H-LX: Ignore Zombify (Not sure if it already does this)
Giant Robot SG-88: Needs to be significantly stronger. 1440% damage is garbage since it's delay is 5370 ms.
Overclock: Delete the cooldown
Rocket Jump: Decrease the delay
Satellite Safety: Damage reduction should also apply to %-based attacks.
Siege Mode: Allow movement and Dash to be used. It also needs a damage buff.

Heavy Weapon Mastery and Metal Fist Mastery could be replaced with more useful skills. New summons perhaps, or more supportive skills for existing summons.

Distortion Bomb: Should not trigger DR. A damage buff would be nice as well, considering that Wild Hunters have a slightly weaker version as a regular 4th job skill.
Metal Armor: Hovering: This should have been a part of Seige Mode rather than a separate Hyper Skill. Maybe change the effect to one that allows you to soar while mounted on the Mech and also provide a small damage boost.

Move all Rock 'n Shock passive Hyper Skills into the skill itself and replace them with:
Siege Mode - Bonus Attack
Siege Mode - Reinforce
Siege Mode - Boss Killer

KMS 1.2.201 - MapleStory FLY - Festival - Aggravate - 2013-09-12

Holy crap. I never knew Giant Robot SG-88 was that painfully slow (slowest attack in the game, maybe?). It's literally 4380 ms delay at faster (3), which is 4.38 seconds to cast. Rolleyes

KMS 1.2.201 - MapleStory FLY - Festival - PirateIzzy - 2013-09-12

Mechs, Buccaneers, Corsairs, all receiving half-assed revamps. I could pull a better revamp out of my ass than this.

KMS 1.2.201 - MapleStory FLY - Festival - ZeekFox - 2013-09-12

Aggravate Wrote:Holy crap. I never knew Giant Robot SG-88 was that painfully slow (slowest attack in the game, maybe?). It's literally 4380 ms delay at faster (3), which is 4.38 seconds to cast. Rolleyes

Yeah, but you spend those four seconds mashing the attack button to fill the bar to increase the damage. It's laughable though, because it doesn't even do twice the damage of Laser Blast. The only reason for it to exist is that it counts as a summon (affected by robot mastery's damage boost, but not Amplifier), so it bypasses the damage cap. I don't know that there are any 2m-2m Mechs going "hey look at me hitting ten digits one one hit!"

If I were to do an additonal revamp...

Hovercraft mode should completely replace Seige. Allow seige mode attacks, but also anything Tank Mode can do (laser, placing bots, buffing, etc).
Change Rock 'n Shock's +duration hyper to adding a new robot instead. Yeah, RnS isn't great for bossing, but it's incredible for farming. Allowing a 4th robot to be placed allows a MUCH better coverage. The +20 seconds can be transferred to the base skill.
Healing Robot should have the "duck" thing removed. Additional duration and range would be nice on that one too.
Raise prototype's speed cap to 160%. Seriously, +20 speed passive, +10-11 speed/jump on the Pure Gold Mech Legs, and...still just a 140% cap? Leave tank mode as is (though hovercraft can maybe allow going up to 140% since almost everyone moves at 160+% now), but allow Mechs to do nub mode farming in 160% speed prototype.
And I agree on Portal becoming infinite. Or perhaps...15-30 minutes?
Extreme Mech- Gain the effect of preventing all non-resisted transformation/banishing attacks from bosses. However, any transform/banish attack prevented this way "short circuits" the Mechanic for a few seconds, effectively stunning them. The purpose of this is to make it so Mechs don't lose their robot setups from a banish attack or have to go back into tank+seige/hovercraft after being transformed.

KMS 1.2.201 - MapleStory FLY - Festival - Niernen - 2013-09-13

Since when did Nexon care about pirates? Nothing new here.

KMS 1.2.201 - MapleStory FLY - Festival - DeanNim - 2013-09-13

Imaginal Wrote:[Image: 4pvFa.jpg]
Anyone know what Tiger Balm gives? "it's a prize you can redeem for 10 Effie Stamps"
My best guess is Traits.

i think its supposed to cure headaches and muscle fatigues.

 Spoiler


KMS 1.2.201 - MapleStory FLY - Festival - GunPowder - 2013-09-13

DeanNim Wrote:i think its supposed to cure headaches and muscle fatigues.

 Spoiler

I actually have one of those on one of my shelves. Works wonders Wink

KMS 1.2.201 - MapleStory FLY - Festival - PirateIzzy - 2013-09-13

PirateIzzy Wrote:Mechs, Buccaneers, Corsairs, all receiving half-assed revamps. I could pull a better revamp out of my ass than this.

To prove this, I'll, in fact, create my own pirate revamp.

KMS 1.2.201 - MapleStory FLY - Festival - Arrol - 2013-09-13

PirateIzzy Wrote:To prove this, I'll, in fact, create my own pirate revamp.

I like to share my own Aran revamp with you