BombsAway Wrote:Buying NX isn't a donation. It's an exchange of money for goods or a service.

Conciente Wrote:Yeah, because server and bandwidth costs have to do with ANYTHING! It's still a FREE game, that's how it is advertised. You, of course, have the option to spend real money if you so desire... Just like Southperry has a Donate option.

GameMX Wrote:I don't think your mind is developed enough to make the connections here. Guess those business expenses are free.

Conciente Wrote:So I guess I didn't "donate" to this site, since I got goods and services for doing it.

BombsAway Wrote:What goods or services did you get? T-Shirt? Dinner? Year long access to justusguys.com? Access to an extra forum isn't considered a service. A different coloured name isn't a good. If I donate to charity and get my name on a plaque that doesn't mean I bought my name on the plaque. Donations are often recognised with perks. Buying NX however is a clear exchange of goods and services.

Conciente Wrote:You are questioning my intelligence... YOU OF ALL PEOPLE?

They are obviously not free, they pay them with donations people make by buying NX.

Conciente Wrote:Goods and services that people that didn't donate don't have, like people that don't buy NX have to use MTS for. Changing the color of my name = pet, accessing an extra forum = 2x card.

Stereo Wrote:So... are the closed tickets going to show up again eventually? Or am I gonna have to resubmit all the closed tickets that were never actually resolved.

BombsAway Wrote:Yeah it's not like they've left the thing broken for THREE YEARS and suddenly decide to fix it up after people start putting media pressure on them

street Wrote:were did you see nexon addressing that those 7 bad comments is the reason why they changed their support system? Those 7 people out of how many again playing maple? The special 7 are really getting the ball going! Doing a great job man! I wouldn't call this media pressure if the LA times has an article praising nexon and not bashing them. Not every company is going to get positive comments on their articles and the media knows that.

Your not at the meetings that nexon have and don't know if this change was on its way. Ever thought with blockparty coming out wouldn't they need to upgrade their support site?

BombsAway Wrote:Yes I was clearly talking solely about the seven comments posted today and not the outside actions myself and others have been taking against them for weeks.

Sorry, coincidences like that don't just happen. They're stepping up because pomegranate's getting rough and they need to make changes, not because it's magically time for them to do so after years of them doing nothing.

Nexon Wrote:Q: Why are you switching to launching MapleStory from the website?

A: Moving to launching from the website allows us to do several things for our players:

- It allows your game and web experience to be combined into a single log in. You will now be logged in to all of Nexon’s websites whenever you use Start MapleStory from Website. This should make it easier for players to find game information,[SIZE="3"] get technical support[/SIZE] and switch between games.

street Wrote:Ok so what about the packet editing,pg hack,meso generator,guild hack etc epidemic that were going on in the past? When those happen wasn't their ticket system being overflow with angry players? Wasn't others taking action "dont buy nx until pg fix" "burn nexon building down" Anyone forgot about the whole Code Red or w/e hacking rumor that sent players crazy and during that time people were claiming to be hacked by just logging?

Everyone has always been raging nexon on their support system way before the whole hacking situation and nexon even addressed that in the open letter they did a while back.

I'm not buying this maple union efforts to be the reasoning behind the upgrade. A lot of crap has happen in the past and the community attacked nexon for months end. if your attack were similar to eos call of action on ele wands then i would give your maple group union the props behind this upgrade.

Other than that it was something nexon planned on doing and its being done.



Hmmm

BombsAway Wrote:What part of outside action don't you get? I don't mean just sitting here complaining. Myself and several others have been out there doing things to put pressure on Nexon since trying to confront them head on has never achieved any results.

street Wrote:i know what you mean by outside action. BBB report sending complaints to top gaming sites about nexon, reports to cnn,sarah palin,george bush,Zeus,santa claus, etc. When i say maple union i mean the several others doing outside work along side with you. I'm trying to say those actions of your union was not the reason behind the support ticket upgrade.

In nexon announcement they clearly state a reasoning behind the new login system which seems to be connected in with their support system. Why have a new system connect to an old system?

If your outside actions truly are bearing fruits of its labor why no current glitches being fixed? why no tespia? why i cant get to 200? If their is no hard evidence proving that your outside actions are showing some sort of progress i'm not putting it on the groundbreaking list with eos who kept his movement with in house action to my knowledge.

@above only media attention i see about nexon is good ones, i dont see an article on the la times with the title "nexon worst company ever" i never said the tickets were the reason behind nexon acting up. The same way you claim the tickets are not the reason i say those media and third party attention didnt.

BombsAway Wrote:Clearly in my labours I am requesting for all of the things you've mentioned and not logical things like accountability, a site that works, and some real security.

Regardless, I am not pompous enough to believe that this is entirely due to the dozens of hours of work I've put into this, along with whatever else anyone else has done. That's ridiculous. It would be ignorant for me to believe . What I'm saying is that it's not a coincidence that they're finally acting on it now.

Think of it this way: you know your room is a mess and so you gather everything up and put it into a pile to sort through. You've got a clear plan of action but you've really got no reason to do it. Then your mom comes in and tells you to clean up, but you don't. Then she shouts at you a lot, but you still don't do it. Finally she threatens to take away your computer; you're probably going to get up and start doing it. Especially if she starts unhooking pomegranate.

We've asked, we've shouted, and now we're finally acting, and coincidentally they've begun acting too? Yeah. It's not a coincidence.


edit: you seem a little daft so let me break it down further. I don't care about Tespia and I would NEVER mention it as a leverage point. It's a waste of time for everyone. Why would I request glitches be fixed when my main concerns are accountability and security? Bugs annoy me, but they don't concern me as much as their cruddy "support" system and the fact that anyone can find the private information of thousands of children because Nexon doesn't think before implementing a new system like referrals. And again, why the hell would I care if you can hit 200? Seriously. That's not a reasonable request. It's not objective.

street Wrote:Let me break it down for you seeing that you clearly cant read. Not once in any of my posts i put account security over anything. I was referencing those examples towards your all powerful maple union that help get these problems on the map. This was all about the support system not secruity, the security thread is in located here use search. Stop straying away from the topic at hand, those examples were regarding the support system upgrade not the massive hacking going on. Those questions were aimed at your union get cracking some of us have problems and it seems you can act on it.