Chicocl Wrote:I think they should implement more skills than what we can max, that way bishops can have a support build and an "attack" build and stop complaining about their damage...

KillerZero Wrote:You realize, the the only 2 classes with 60% status resistance DONT HAVE hero will. Its a trade off. You want 60%+ status resistance go for it. Just give up your hero will as compensation, so you can't get out of a bad situation when things get bad.

Pearly Wrote:Well, hero will's CD is too long anyway. It is very possible to get screwed more than once in the 6 min CD and you still can't do anything about it.

List of all classes' status resist:
http://forums.playpark.net/index.php?/topic/216266-everyone-can-have-100-status-resistance-after-koc-revamp/

I suppose you are referring to DA, DS, and mihile ? Xenon and kaiser have hero will even though they have really high base status resist. I'm mainly referring to this type of class. High resist and also has hero will. That 60% base resist is really god-sent, especially if it becomes 80% because of maxed willpower. They become self sufficient, no longer need our help. This new "revamp" only gives bishops 20% status resist, half of what we used to have. Don't get their logic, really.

KillerZero Wrote:Kaiser respectively has 50% status, and idk about xenon. Dont know much about him. Do you realize the average player, does not have anywhere near 100 willpower. And getting 100 willpower is really only obtainable easily in GMS because of how you can spam the bear powers. You can't do this in kms i believe.

iAmFear Wrote:Kaiser has 60%, and you can if you want to, everything about professions are pretty much the same in both GMS and KMS. Xenon is just the worst because he has 60% AND it's passive, but you could auto-buff gem the buff ones, so it's not really that much worse.

Eliseo Wrote:As I have said before, and most of us Evans have:

Nexon, fricking give us any status resist in any skill (it would be nice if it's over 20%).

Btw, does anyone knows what the hell does Magic Resistance do?

KillerZero Wrote:my bad about kaiser, im pretty sure it was 50% status o...o ill have to actually go check, and idk about xenon. Dont know much about him. Do you realize the average player, does not have anywhere near 100 willpower. And getting 100 willpower is really only obtainable easily in GMS because of how you can spam the bear powers. You can't do this in kms i believe.

KillerZero Wrote:i would like to know this too, because i know an evan skill gives 20% magic resistance. But what does that doo.. I always assumed u take less damage from magic attacks or something.

Eliseo Wrote:As I have said before, and most of us Evans have:

Nexon, fricking give us any status resist in any skill (it would be nice if it's over 20%).

Btw, does anyone knows what the hell does Magic Resistance do?

LegendGospel Wrote:Play Angelic Buster, Hayato, Mercedes, Corsairs, Phantom, and then go back to a Bishop and try to have fun.

KillerZero Wrote:You can use more than 3 bear powers in a day in kms? I thought that was a gms glitch that they never bothered to fix
I will say that kaiser(ofc) and xenon are broken for still having hero will. Because even if u did have level 100 will, by not having hero will, you can get screwed over in ways that people that do have it don't

Yorckie Wrote:Am I the only Bishop really happy with its current gameplay...?

Yorckie Wrote:Am I the only Bishop really happy with its current gameplay...?

iAmFear Wrote:I don't really see much of a problem with not doing so much damage as a bishop. Even before I could put much funding in my characters, I would still attack on my bishop, even though my damage contribution was minor at best.

Pearly Wrote:No, I remember it's also 60% for kaiser and I did check earlier that they have Nova's will (which is essentially hero's will).

The difficulty in getting lvl 100 willpower isn't a valid excuse to give certain classes too high status resist. Everyone can get high willpower, even the low funded players. I gain willpower mainly through PQ's, which is how I "train" my character at the same time anyway since PQ seems to be the fastest (Note: I hate grinding). 1 of my chars already has lvl 70+ willpower without resetting profession.

Anyway, really, you don't even need 80% status resist to ward off most of the abnormal status. My noob DS and mihile already enjoy that benefit with totally crap willpower level (less than lvl 10).



Yes, just reduces magic damage taken.

And yeah, I play evan too. Now EVERY class gets some status resistance while we still have ZERO

Pearly Wrote:Try supporting as a bishop at Cygnus run post unlimited when you unfortunately get "kicked" to the rear garden with those minions. Without decent damage, you wouldn't be able to get out of that "prison" to support your party again in a reasonable amount of time. The way they make the minions inside that garden having HUGE HP and requiring you to kill them all before you can get back to the fight is.....I'm speechless.

KillerZero Wrote:It isn't an excuse, but its also a pro towards it, and how long did it take you to get to level 70 via pqs? And the 60% status actually doesn't ward off everything. I have been seduced several times on my ds/mihile(they have like level 20 willpower ish) during bad times, like happening right before i binded the enemy, meaning im seduced for a while, while bind is going, making it pointless and wasted. and being seduced while having my orbs out on my ds walking right past the enemy while they had DR up, and just died. It screws you over, if you dont have hero will is what im trying to say. I WILL AGREE that kaiser(ofc) and xenon(ofc) havin 60% status AND hero will is pineappleing ridiculous

Pearly Wrote:Try supporting as a bishop at Cygnus run post unlimited when you unfortunately get "kicked" to the rear garden with those minions. Without decent damage, you wouldn't be able to get out of that "prison" to support your party again in a reasonable amount of time. The way they make the minions inside that garden having HUGE HP and requiring you to kill them all before you can get back to the fight is.....I'm speechless.

KillerZero Wrote:It isn't an excuse, but its also a pro towards it, and how long did it take you to get to level 70 via pqs? And the 60% status actually doesn't ward off everything. I have been seduced several times on my ds/mihile(they have like level 20 willpower ish) during bad times, like happening right before i binded the enemy, meaning im seduced for a while, while bind is going, making it pointless and wasted. and being seduced while having my orbs out on my ds walking right past the enemy while they had DR up, and just died. It screws you over, if you dont have hero will is what im trying to say. I WILL AGREE that kaiser(ofc) and xenon(ofc) havin 60% status AND hero will is pineappleing ridiculous

iAmFear Wrote:It'll probably be leagues more difficult after this kMST patch, with the reduction in status resistance, though you could possibly time Divine Protection in order to avoid banish, there's a 90 second cooldown on banish, so you'd need to dispell like 21 times (if it even works that way) to get the cooldown on Divine Protection to be up before she could banish again, though there aren't very many statuses at Empress that you could dispell to reduce the cooldown, unless they increased the effects of dispell.



The problem with high status resistance, like 60%, is how easily you can go from 60% to 100%. When Demon Slayer came out, it was 80%, so I leveled my Willpower so I'd have 100% (but I only got to like 84, which is +16%). Now, it's 60%, but it's so much easier to get to 100%. Firstly, there's the card, which boosts me from 60% to 64%, and then resistance potions have become widely more accessible, plus I can make pretty much as many as I want with Evo World and the wonderful Juniper Berry core, which takes me from 64% all the way to 94%. Then, I'd only need 6% from Willpower, which is level 30 (which is where I stopped on my Kaiser). Cake. It barely matters at all if you have Hero's Will or not.

Most of the new bosses have attacks that ignore status resistance completely, so Hero's Will would be useful there, but the long cooldown makes it pretty bleh. You'd only be able to use it a max of 10 times, assuming the boss has an hour timer (CPB), while many of them (Hard Hilla) have half an hour timers, so that's only like 5 times it can save you (which is still pretty good I guess, if those statuses put you in danger of dying) (Except on Kaiser, since you can reset the cooldown every 90 seconds, leading to much more use). There's also cleansing potions, which are arguably better with only 5 minute cooldowns AND they can cancel out Potential Cancel (of course, it'd be even better if you had cleansing potions and hero's will).

KillerZero Wrote:Can you use a resistance pot and a Cleansing pot? I thought unless your alchemist by using the cleansing it would nullfiy resistance since you only use 1. I can see your arguement, that having 100% status is OP(which it is), considering the 5 new link skills that give 5% status each can easily put, anyone with 100% status. But its a double sided sword like how you now mentioned that bosses now have the ability to completely ignore statuses with certain skills. The only good thing about having 100% status is seduction protection pretty much. Nexon needs to work a new way how status effects it. Because if you could get seduced while having 100% status, actually having a bishop in the party or paladin, would be very nice