ShinkuDragon Wrote:what he's saying is:

raging blow alone: 268% *5

raging blow with enrage: 335%*5*1.6

cgy0509 Wrote:Thanks , this is what I want to know , clear and effective =D
Nice if nexon can only make raging blow single target while enrage while other skill remain as usual >.<

ShinkuDragon Wrote:you're hitting 21000% 1v1 according to joetang, i think heroes are hitting enough, and then some, by this point

cgy0509 Wrote:For what Joetang calculate is % , I believe that Hero having a very high % but lose hit per second althought it is quite similar with pala and drk as well.
I not saying hero not strong because I am a Hero as well ,just some time feel not hitting enough target while many job main target skill like Demon Impact and Giga Slasher during transform hit more than 1 , and using Uprising Rage with 1 target is kind of waste. But now with toggle on/off 1orb I believed already much better.

I think the range of Raging Blow before and after Enrage should be exchange , I don't enraged Raging Blow with lower range while Normal Raging Blow with multiple target should given the new range

ShinkuDragon Wrote:they both have massive range already actually, regular raging blow has enough range to hit the bird statues of PB, with enraged being almost on par with the range of a full-screen attack
paladins have... i don't know how many hits they have, but it's less than the six heroes have on their raging blow, DrK past this update have only 4 hits with gungnir (and at a slower attack speed than raging blow) on KMS, where this came from, hitting the 50m cap with your regular mobbing move is nigh-impossible bar certain ultimates as far as i know, so a hero can, and will outdamage both kaisers and demon slayers, until they get some new insane mechanic/gear which allows them to start hitting the cap again.

all in all, heroes right now have the best 1v1, mobbing and range, of all the warriors (except demon slayer in range, and dark knights in 1v1 range i'd believe.)

ShinkuDragon Wrote:they both have massive range already actually, regular raging blow has enough range to hit the bird statues of PB, with enraged being almost on par with the range of a full-screen attack
paladins have... i don't know how many hits they have, but it's less than the six heroes have on their raging blow, DrK past this update have only 4 hits with gungnir (and at a slower attack speed than raging blow) on KMS, where this came from, hitting the 50m cap with your regular mobbing move is nigh-impossible bar certain ultimates as far as i know, so a hero can, and will outdamage both kaisers and demon slayers, until they get some new insane mechanic/gear which allows them to start hitting the cap again.

all in all, heroes right now have the best 1v1, mobbing and range, of all the warriors (except demon slayer in range, and dark knights in 1v1 range i'd believe.)

DarkNightSyndrome Wrote:Then I was disappointed when 1.2.478 rolled in. Lost my DoT for critical rate, which I already have 95% of (and I haven't even got my Phantom to Level 2 Link!)

DarkNightSyndrome Wrote:Then 1.2.479 was Nexon punching me in the gut. Sure, we got buffed, but that's literally translating it as "Sorry, we couldn't think of new interesting skills for I/L, so have your Chain Lightning back and buffed, like we do for every I/L "revamp". Have fun!"

DarkNightSyndrome Wrote:We get a near-to-useless Binding Skill that requires us to Keydown so we can't attack and bind like Demon Slayers. (I understand they tried to make it Party-Using, but hey, DS can party-use and be aggressive at the same time while hitting half the map all the time, why can't we?)

DarkNightSyndrome Wrote:We lose our DoTs and actual freezing for Critical Rate which most of us have complete no need for and for slow-freezing.

Radiation Wrote:Hmm?

Changed - Delay (gungnirDescent - 960 ms --> gungnirDescent - 840 ms)

Isn't that the same speed? :o
Or are you referring to the CD?

Takebacker Wrote:We don't know what stage of bind it is. We don't know what the invincibility protects against. We don't know what kind of bosses it affects.

I'm sure if it turns out to be stage 3 (anything other than stage 1, really), invincibility against 100%+ HP attacks, and works on RA bosses, you would stop complaining. It's likely that 2/3 of those are true though.

Chilly Wrote:I'm sure my brother and others are looking for real party utility, so the #1 change that must occur for Freezing Breath to become useful isn't even in RED. Although a large swath of players are opposed to it, Ignore PDR must work exactly like it does in KMS, and from early indications, it might not since Spark/Unlimited is looking radically different.

The second thing is the 15%/30% Ignores per second must stack additively which we don't know about but is questionable since they gave it such odd numbers. 15% and 30% would take an uneven number of seconds to get to 100% which just seems odd. Multiplicative over the duration of the skill still is nothing shabby, but of course requires the first point and high PDR for utility.

Third, revert the cooldown changes.

I've already complained about the other I/L skill things and buff inequity so I'll leave those alone this time around.

Given the only minor changes recently, I don't have high hopes for anything else. And given the direction of Spark/Unlimited, I have negative expectations.

Chilly Wrote:I have negative expectations.

ShinkuDragon Wrote:i was referring to enraged raging blow (since they're both 1v1 skills) enraged has a delay of 7xx

RenmazuoDX Wrote:Not really talking about any calculations and all that, Im just looking at it at face value exactly as I see it.

Rageing Slash + Enrage looks to be just fine in my opinion, going to be quite a nice upgrade compared to what it is now but I see what some of you are getting at that rageing slash's damage needs to be amped up more which would be nice also.

Or allowing Heroes to hit multiple targets while Enraged would be nice also of course that would also resolve my complaint of not haveing any min crit increase except for 1v1 so that change would definitely be appreciated.

(For those of you wondering why I say "Rageing Slash" it is because I dont feel like an attack ending in the word "blow" suits us, it sounds more Paladinish and I think that "Slash" would have been more appropriate.)