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Pirates vs. Ninjas Mafia Gameplay Thread - Night 6 - ChaoticCJ - 2010-10-05
Well time for the accusations to fly.
This is my list of what I think of who is who:
2. ThatHurts - townie or neutral
----- I really think that he is a pirate.
3. Jon - townie or neutral
----- He keeps voting for me, but I think he is a townie.
4. ElectricSix - Mafia Killer or neutral
----- I think my ability was blocked by Russt the night before he died, since it did not go through and was not able to spy on him.
13. ShiKage - townie or Mafia Killer or neutral
----- Not really sure...If E6 is not the killer then he is.
14. Darkmaniak - Pirate
----- Like said before he is a pirate.
15. ChaoticCJ - Pirate Lookout
----- Think what you will of me. I am the lookout for the ship.
It comes down to ElectricSix and ShiKage for mafia, both could be mafia for all we know. We can't afford to make mistakes. I will hold off on voting to see what the rest of you think.
Pirates vs. Ninjas Mafia Gameplay Thread - Night 6 - Link - 2010-10-05
I'm a townie. :/
I don't know who to choose at this point... My suspicious are toward Jon, ElectricSix and ThatHurts. Darkmaniak is the captain and CJ says he's a townie. The other three are kind of unknown to me.
Pirates vs. Ninjas Mafia Gameplay Thread - Night 6 - ThatHurts - 2010-10-05
*twiddles thumbs* I'm clueless... Gonna wait to see what more people think. The only person I really trust right now is dark.
Pirates vs. Ninjas Mafia Gameplay Thread - Night 6 - ElectricSix - 2010-10-05
ChaoticCJ Wrote:Well time for the accusations to fly.
This is my list of what I think of who is who:
2. ThatHurts - townie or neutral
----- I really think that he is a pirate.
3. Jon - townie or neutral
----- He keeps voting for me, but I think he is a townie.
4. ElectricSix - Mafia Killer or neutral
----- I think my ability was blocked by Russt the night before he died, since it did not go through and was not able to spy on him.
13. ShiKage - townie or Mafia Killer or neutral
----- Not really sure...If E6 is not the killer then he is.
14. Darkmaniak - Pirate
----- Like said before he is a pirate.
15. ChaoticCJ - Pirate Lookout
----- Think what you will of me. I am the lookout for the ship.
It comes down to ElectricSix and ShiKage for mafia, both could be mafia for all we know. We can't afford to make mistakes. I will hold off on voting to see what the rest of you think.
Personally, I'm fairly sure there's a neutral killer and a mafian still out there. As for who they are; ThatHurts and Shikage were the last two people to vote for TK which could mean either one of them were mafians jumping on board to prevent suspicion. I'm not immune to that suspicion myself, since I did vote for TK too, but that just means we all have fairly even odds of being the last mafian. However you and Jon aren't immune from suspcion either, as neither of you voted for him, which would seem to suggest that perhaps either one of you is a mafian that didn't want to vote for your ally.
Now onto the neutral killer, which after your post, I'm pretty sure it's you ChaoticCJ. The best odds you have of winning are to convince everyone that you're a townie by declaring yourself some version of a tracker. Which would make perfect sense, if you happen to be the neutral killer as I know that's a pretty common pairing as far as roles go. It's not only that though, I find it rather peculiar that the only time you've voted was to tie up the lynch and though you've participated in the discussion somewhat, it was only after I voted for you. Perhaps that was what made you decide to stop sticking to the background lest you be suspected, but at the same time, you've still left me feeling rather suspicious of you. Now, perhaps there's an explanation for that, but I'm fairly convinced your goal has been to survive as long as possible in the game while getting rid of townies. So I'm thinking this tactic of your is to get rid of the two people you find most likely to be townies, that being myself and Shikage, while hoping that between you and the remaining mafian, you can get rid of the rest of the townies while keeping it so that it comes down to you and the mafian in the end.
ShiKage Wrote:I'm a townie. :/
I don't know who to choose at this point... My suspicious are toward Jon, ElectricSix and ThatHurts. Darkmaniak is the captain and CJ says he's a townie. The other three are kind of unknown to me.
Err, why are you taking ChaoticCJ as his word? So far he's tied up a lynch vote, that's the only voting he's done the entire game. Now he's roleclaimed without any proof as to his decision making process or what he's discovered, not that it helps right now since there's so few of us left. Earlier in the game, if he had done so, perhaps we'd have been able to confirm his ability, but right now, I find myself thinking of him more as a neutral killer than anything else. Blindly believing him this late in the game is not the way to go. The only, and I mean the only, confirmed townie we know of is Dark.
For now, I'll [vote] ChaoticCJ. The only reason I'll change it is if Dark chooses to vote for someone else. He's picked right the past several times so if he thinks otherwise, I'll follow him. And I'll add one more time that I'm a townie, for what little good that may be. My name is Tom Morgan if anyone was curious.
Pirates vs. Ninjas Mafia Gameplay Thread - Night 6 - Manu - 2010-10-05
I'm thinking E6 or CJ, since E6 voted for TK, I'll vote along with him for [vote]ChaoticCJ.
Pirates vs. Ninjas Mafia Gameplay Thread - Night 6 - ChaoticCJ - 2010-10-05
ElectricSix Wrote:Now onto the neutral killer, which after your post, I'm pretty sure it's you ChaoticCJ. The best odds you have of winning are to convince everyone that you're a townie by declaring yourself some version of a tracker. Which would make perfect sense, if you happen to be the neutral killer as I know that's a pretty common pairing as far as roles go. It's not only that though, I find it rather peculiar that the only time you've voted was to tie up the lynch and though you've participated in the discussion somewhat, it was only after I voted for you. Perhaps that was what made you decide to stop sticking to the background lest you be suspected, but at the same time, you've still left me feeling rather suspicious of you. Now, perhaps there's an explanation for that, but I'm fairly convinced your goal has been to survive as long as possible in the game while getting rid of townies. So I'm thinking this tactic of your is to get rid of the two people you find most likely to be townies, that being myself and Shikage, while hoping that between you and the remaining mafian, you can get rid of the rest of the townies while keeping it so that it comes down to you and the mafian in the end.
Who's goal isn't to survive the longest? We all want our own team to win. It seems that the neutral killer can only kill every other day. You say that I am the neutral killer, okay that is what you think. But does that really matter?
If you think I am the neutral killer, you should obviously go after someone else. We don't know how many mafia member there are left. If there are 2 member left (or 1 mafia and 1 neutral) the town loses. We will be left at 5 member tonight with 4 the next morning. Then the mafia/neutral just needs a tie vote and they win the game.
I still think that you are the mafia killer or at least a mafia member. TK was useless it would be obvious to kill him.
It doesn't matter now anyways it looks like the Mafia won if you kill me.
Someone interfered with my ability when trying to track E6 I can only think that it was Russt. Why would a mafia blocker defend you if you had nothing to hide.
I will (change my vote).
Edit: In case anyone cares. I am One-eyed Pete, the ship's lookout.
Pirates vs. Ninjas Mafia Gameplay Thread - Night 6 - ElectricSix - 2010-10-05
ChaoticCJ Wrote:Who's goal isn't to survive the longest? We all want our own team to win. It seems that the neutral killer can only kill every other day. You say that I am the neutral killer, but does that really matter?
If you think I am the neutral killer, you should obviously go after someone else. We don't know how many mafia member there are left. If there are 2 member left (or 1 mafia and 1 neutral) the town loses. We will be left at 5 member tonight with 4 the next morning. Then the mafia/neutral just needs a tie vote and they win the game.
I still think that you are the mafia killer or at least a mafia member. TK was useless it would be obvious to kill him.
It doesn't matter now anyways it looks like the Mafia won if you kill me.
I will vote [vote]ElectricSix
As I said, I think there's a neutral killer and a mafian left. That'd be a little higher than 1/4th anti town, but not too much, if there was a neutral killer and two mafian left or two neutrals and a mafian left, that'd be pushing that ratio a bit too much I think. Not saying it's impossible, but I don't think Xela would do that to the townies and if he did, then we're already fairly screwed as we'd already be at half town to anti town ratio. That means anyone that dies will tip that balance, whether it be today or tonight. Of course if we lynch the neutral killer and there's only one kill tonight and our doctor intercepts it, then we'll have enough people left to finish off the mafians. If we leave that neutral killer, there's no sure way to know that they won't kill a townie necessary to said winning strategy. Of course I'm inclined to believe there's four townies left as I mentioned earlier, which gives us a much higher margin of victory so long as we are careful, but either way, we have to get rid of a killer in lynch today, and I happen to believe that you are that killer.
Incidentally, I never mentioned the whole every other night kill. That seems to imply that you know it was only every other night, and not another role blocking said kills. So thanks for admitting you're the killer I guess?
Pirates vs. Ninjas Mafia Gameplay Thread - Night 6 - ThatHurts - 2010-10-05
Dark is basically confirmed town/captain, therefore, I will follow him.
[Vote]ChaoticCJ
On another note, pretty busy this week so I might be posting/watching even less.
Pirates vs. Ninjas Mafia Gameplay Thread - Night 6 - ChaoticCJ - 2010-10-05
ElectricSix Wrote:Incidentally, I never mentioned the whole every other night kill. That seems to imply that you know it was only every other night, and not another role blocking said kills. So thanks for admitting you're the killer I guess?
I am just pointing out the obvious. I said it "seems that the neutral killer can...." The neutral killer would want to start on Night 1 if he could. There was no kill on Night 2 and 4 by the neutral killer and the kills started on night 3 and 5. If I was a neutral killer, don't you think I would have used my kills a lot more? It seems that you know more about the neutral killer than I do. Maybe your the neutral killer and not a mafia killer. You seem to know that the kills were blocked.
Pirates vs. Ninjas Mafia Gameplay Thread - Night 6 - ElectricSix - 2010-10-05
ChaoticCJ Wrote:I am just pointing out the obvious. I said it "seems that the neutral killer can...." The neutral killer would want to start on Night 1 if he could. There was no kill on Night 2 and 4 by the neutral killer and the kills started on night 3 and 5. If I was a neutral killer, don't you think I would have used my kills a lot more? It seems that you know more about the neutral killer than I do. Maybe your the neutral killer and not a mafia killer. You seem to know that the kills were blocked.
I disagree. It's rather apparent to me that you know the role a lot better than I do, and far better than a townie would. I never mentioned anything about what night they were able to kill, nor as I said previously, anything about every other night kills. You seem to be sure that's the case, but there's very limited evidence that backs that up. There are a lot of reasons why their night kill might have failed on other nights, and it's not hard to guess that one of the most obvious ones is a block. In this game, there's no surefire way to tell such things until end game or if you're a detective. Otherwise, you have to assume the worst case scenario, that being that they can kill every night until you have concrete evidence otherwise. Which at this point, we're still lacking. After all, we've had several double night kills now, and one night a triple night kill. Some might have been vigilante kills, one was a revenge kill, and some have been ninja kills. That leaves quite a bit up in the air. Are the ones that we thought were vigilante kills actually the neutral killer? If so what about the one disappearing kill? If the neutral killer was the cause of the disappearance, then why did it only happen one time? There's a lot of uncertainity about what kills go to what role at the moment, well minus the ninja ones, so I can't see where you're getting this info on the neutral killer without being the neutral killer.
Pirates vs. Ninjas Mafia Gameplay Thread - Night 6 - ChaoticCJ - 2010-10-05
ElectricSix Wrote:If the neutral killer was the cause of the disappearance, then why did it only happen one time? There's a lot of uncertainity about what kills go to what role at the moment, well minus the ninja ones, so I can't see where you're getting this info on the neutral killer without being the neutral killer.
I thought the vanish kills were Dark?
Regardless it was all fun. I did not expect to survive this day with 3 people against me from the start. I killed Pie, Kurtle, and attempted to kill you. I tried to kill E6, but my shot was blocked by Russt I assume. The only reason to defend you would be that you are a mafia. A medic could have defended you but no one has come out and said that. I had 3 shots. So yeah I am useless now.
So yeah, [vote]ChaoticCJ. Lets get on with the rest of the game.
Pirates vs. Ninjas Mafia Gameplay Thread - Night 6 - Lord Xela - 2010-10-05
Votes:
ChaoticCJ - 4 (ElectricSix, Darkmaniak, ThatHurts, ChaoticCJ)
The day is technically over now (majority get), but a) the creative juices aren't currently flowing and b) I'm busy making waffles. I'll get the day end post up when I get back from wafflemaking.
Pirates vs. Ninjas Mafia Gameplay Thread - Night 6 - Lord Xela - 2010-10-05
Pete sighed. "Ar, ye all have made up yer minds, it seems. There be no point in even fighting it. This ship be doomed, and dyin' by the cap'n's hand not be as bad as by ye damn ninjas." He walked calmly before the cap'n ahead of the rest of the remaining crew, awaiting the shot. Then he though no more.
A quick search of Pete's belongings corroborated his story - he had been a pirate, through and through, and a good member of the crew. The remaining five looked around at each other with unease. At least one of them was out to get the others - they just didn't know who. "Right," grumbled the cap'n. "Take care o' Pete's body, then get ye to mess. And watch yerselves. Another mistake could be the end o' this ship, and every last one o' us too."
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You guys voted ChaoticCJ to death. He was One-eyed Pete, the ship's lookout (flavor) and vigilante (actual role). Night begins now. Get those actions in, people.
Pirates vs. Ninjas Mafia Gameplay Thread - Night 6 - MasPan - 2010-10-05
How can they go to mess if the cook is dead?
Pirates vs. Ninjas Mafia Gameplay Thread - Night 6 - Lord Xela - 2010-10-05
Someone else cooks. Now gtf2discussionthread. <_<
Pirates vs. Ninjas Mafia Gameplay Thread - Night 6 - Holypie - 2010-10-06
I was replaced!?!?!? They probably aren't as good and are just making simple things like toast every day. I BET IT'S SIX THAT'S COOKING NOW
Pirates vs. Ninjas Mafia Gameplay Thread - Night 6 - Lord Xela - 2010-10-06
Pie: I was going to smack you on the nose with a rolled-up newspaper and reprimand you for posting here, but there's little point in that now as you guys will soon see.
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The cap'n awoke in his cabin to find that he was not alone. The body of Sam Jacobs, one of his last crew members, was lying in the middle of the floor in his cabin with his throat slit. Realizing what this most likely meant, he took a deep breath, cocked his pistol, and walked out onto the deck.
The sight that met his eyes confirmed his fears. His ship's doctor, Gibbs, was staring down two now-undisguised ninjas, a pistol in hand. "So that be it, then?" the cap'n asked. "Ye cut us down to this few, and now ye aren't even keepin' yer disguises to finish the job?"
The one they had known as the pirate Tom Morgan responded to the cap'n's words. "We wanted to do something special for you, captain. That, and we were fed up with imitatin' yer stupid accent."
Cap'n Jones shrugged off the insult. "I be a man of actions, not words. But I be havin' one question for ye. Why?"
Tom smiled. "Two reasons. One, we were bored. Two, killing off an entire ship of pirates is not only hilarious but will make for a great story."
The cap'n growled and swung his pistol up towards Tom's face. An instant later, the hand that had been holding his pistol was no longer attached to his arm. An instant after that, there was a sword plunged through his chest. The cap'n looked over just in time to see Gibbs run through by the other ninja - John, that be what he called himself. John Johnson. I should've known that name were fake...
The ninjas, their work done, vanished in a cloud of smoke, leaving the Esmeralda to her fate.
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GAME IS OVER. The ninjas win. There were two of them left (note: 20 person game, so standard mafia size is 5, not 4). Also, there was only one neutral, and that was Mr. Wordbomber. I almost never (read: I never have yet and don't plan to in the future as far as I can tell) use more than a single neutral in my games. Just a little fyi.
Anyway, the last few people: Darkmaniak was Cap'n Jones, as I'm sure most of you figured out. Jon was Dr. Gibbs, the ship's doctor role (who, by the way, did not have a single successful protection <_<). ElectricSix and ThatHurts were the remaining two ninjas - Tom Morgan and John Johnson, respectively. Vanilla ninja scum, no special powers.
Next up: game logs, copied/pasted right out of my .txt file that I kept everything in.
Night 0
Actions:
Jon - protects Russt
MasPan - detects Mephisto
Rayquaza2233 - switches y0y0y0y0shi0 and Holypie
Corn - kills MasPan
Russt - blocks Jon
DualReaver - sets wordbomb to "treasure"
Resolution:
MasPan gets detection results - pirate
Corn kills MasPan
Wordbomb is set to "treasure"
Night 1
Actions:
Jon - protects Mephisto
ChaoticCJ - idles
Corn - kills Dusk
Russt - blocks MetaSeraphim
DualReaver - sets wordbomb to "right"
Resolution:
Corn kills Dusk
Wordbomb is set to "right"
Night 2
Actions:
Jon - protects Russt
ChaoticCJ - idles
Corn - kills MetaSeraphim
Russt - blocks Mephisto
DualReaver - sets wordbomb to "right"
Resolution:
Corn kills MetaSeraphim
Wordbomb is set to "right"
Night 3
Actions:
Jon - protects DualReaver
ChaoticCJ - kills Holypie
ElectricSix - kills Mephisto
Russt - blocks DualReaver
DualReaver - sets wordbomb to "because"
MasPan - kills y0y0y0y0shi0
Resolution:
ElectricSix kills Mephisto
ChaoticCJ kills Holypie
MasPan kills y0y0y0y0shi0
Night 4
Actions:
Jon - protects himself
ChaoticCJ - kills ElectricSix
Darkmaniak - kills Russt
ElectricSix - kills KajitiSouls
Russt - blocks ChaoticCJ
DualReaver - sets wordbomb to "weird"
Resolution:
ElectricSix kills KajitiSouls
Darkmaniak kills Russt
Wordbomb is set to "weird"
Night 5
Actions:
Jon - protects ChaoticCJ
ChaoticCJ - kills Kurtle
ElectricSix - kills Kurtle
Resolution:
ChaoticCJ kills Kurtle's armor
ElectricSix kills Kurtle
Night 6
Actions:
Jon - protects himself
ElectricSix - kills ShiKage
Resolution:
ElectricSix kills ShiKage
You may see night 3 and think "...MasPan killing someone? What?" That was the source of your mystery disappearance kill. I added him in as a special role as an afterthough, partly because dying night 0 sucks and partly because losing the detective on night 0 sucks even harder. He was the captain of the Flying Dutchman (as he kept saying in the discussion thread). Once he had 5 crew members other than himself (read: 5 deaths after him), he was allowed a single night kill. The catch, though - I told him not to actively say "hey I'm dead, what was your role?", but I DID tell him that if someone else contacted him with a "sorry for killing you on night 0" type of dealie, that was perfectly fair game. He was a ghost. He could haunt and hear the whispers of the living. Apparently he didn't hear any whispers, though. <_<
So yeah. Questions? Comments? Concerns? Proposals on who runs the next one?
Pirates vs. Ninjas Mafia Gameplay Thread - Night 6 - Mute - 2010-10-06
the story telling really helped wrap everything up nicely. good game xel.
Pirates vs. Ninjas Mafia Gameplay Thread - Night 6 - ElectricSix - 2010-10-06
Heh, that was quite a bit of fun. Sorry to all whom I killed and lied to.
Just doing my part as fill in head ninja. Gotta say, I truly thought there was a neutral killer left due to the fact that a) the doctor was still around and b) the strange kill on Night 3. So ChaoticCJ I really did think I was getting rid of the competition, not a townie. Also, I will note that ThatHurts and I had plenty of mistakes left lying around earlier in the thread that should have, or could have, resutled in us getting lynched. I'm amazed at how many times I had to stop myself from pointing out other people's suspicious behaviour because it would have resulted in pointing out my own, or my mafian allies, suspicious behaviours.
Pirates vs. Ninjas Mafia Gameplay Thread - Night 6 - MetaSeraphim - 2010-10-06
Lord Xela Wrote:Russt - blocks MetaSeraphim
What a waste! *laughs*
Lord Xela Wrote:Corn - kills MetaSeraphim
I knew it! That corny bastard.
Lord Xela Wrote:ElectricSix and ThatHurts were the remaining two ninjas - Tom Morgan and John Johnson, respectively. Vanilla ninja scum, no special powers.
I called it! Not that it was that hard near the end.