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  Ke ke ke
Posted by: Cardboardsnail - 2008-07-02, 11:57 PM - Forum: Shenanigans - Replies (9)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hqMDf1omOUs

Smile

Bonus: Angry office guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmkLpyQPryU

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  Hana, The New Begining
Posted by: Hana - 2008-07-02, 11:47 PM - Forum: Amherst - Replies (1)

Hello guys. My name is Mike and just like Fiel, I got tired of Aduras' BS.

My background:
I started playing MS on June 2006 and began my career in Khaini as a DK "HanaGentatsu". After giving it shitty stats cuz of the lack of experience I have and the drama in khaini, I made a new start in Kradia as a NL "DeadlyHeartx". I HP washed the character too late and thought to myself that this character isn't perfect, so I decided to make a bishop here in Kradia since Yelonade is taking a long time to release. I'm currently 13x and my goal is to help Kradia kill their first Horntail. I hope we can do this ASAP.

I hope the South Perry community will be as friendly and informative as SW.net. I'm sure that Fiel will do an awesome job as the creator/admin. Wish you the best of luck Fiel.

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  Dex Beginners.
Posted by: Brandini - 2008-07-02, 11:34 PM - Forum: Beginner - Replies (13)

Most of us know that a pure dex build is the best build for Islanders but has anyone ever thought about a Dex Beginner?(off-island)

Benefits:
What are the possible benefits of a dex Beginner you may wonder?

  • I believe their stable damage will give you a better clue where to train, how to train, and what you expect.
  • There is also the great accuracy that will come with having a lot of dex. This means you can hit a high level monster, run, and let your friend/s kill it off.
  • Higher accuracy and avoidability.
Obviously the great benefit would be the attack and run technique will make leveling faster.

Builds:
Lets pretend you have a level 71 beginner, which is pretty simple to get leveling the easy way by PQing. Lets compare two different builds, an average beginner build which is leaving Luk/Int at 4, leaving dex around 60, and putting the rest on str. At level 71 your build would look like this:
Average
Strength: 298
Dexterity: 60
Intelligence: 4
Luck: 4
A pure dex build would look like this:
Dex
Strength: 4
Dexterity: 354
Intelligence: 4
Luck: 4
The Weapons
I will be comparing three weapons here. A Maple Snowboard, an Emergency Rescue Tube, and a Green Ski. These weapons will be scrolled with 7/7 60% scrolls working. Even though I am sure most people can scroll better than that.

[Image: 2rhb7kp.gif]Green Ski:
Level: 55
Attack: 92
+Strength: 9
+Dex: 2
Speed: Normal

[Image: 15sa1pe.gif] Emergency Rescue Tube:
Level: 60
Attack: 89
+HP: 150
Speed: Fast

[Image: 2jaavqe.gif]Maple Snowboard:
Level: 70
Attack: 99
+Strength: 7
Speed: Normal.

Results:
Average Build
Green Ski: 129-1426
Emergency Rescue Tube: 129-1220
Maple Snowboard: 139-1534

Dex Build
Green Ski:326-344
Emergency Rescue Tube: 316-330
Maple Snowboard: 351-370

My Interpretation:
I remember back when I was a level 64 beginner before OPQ came out, I trained at ratz. The exp was the best I could get. I tried different places, Horny Mushrooms, Evil Eyes, and Cold Eyes. But overall the best exp I could get was at Ratz. Later when I hit around level 72 or 73 Chronos became great experience, but that was due to a godly scrolled level 20 Frozen Tuna and awesome speed shoes and bone helm. So rats have 1,000 hp. Meanining that a beginner with the average build can take anytime from 1 hit to 9 hits to kill 1 ratz. But a dex beginner knows they will always kill it in 3 or 4 hits. Would you prefer to have such unreliable damage, just for a chance to be able to 1 hit the monster for 65 exp?

There is also another good option for Dex Beginners. They can train at Horny Mushrooms! I know you are probably thinking that Horny Mushrooms is a huge step down than Ratz but Horny Mushrooms only have 300 HP! Meaning you can kill it one hit and recieve a whopping 35 exp, more than half the exp Ratz give. You can get 105 exp in killing 3 horny mushrooms where the same number of hits would only give you 65, so as a dex beginner you will always know you can kill any monster in the horny mushroom maps you decide to train in, and such maps usually have green mushrooms in there so you are set!

Extra
I am not even sure if the beginner Sake bottles are out in GMS and if they are they must extremely rare. But if you happen to get your hands one you might consider to do what I call the Sake Dex build. A sake bottle is averagely 100 attack and only a level 30 weapon, the only downside is that you would need 110 strength to be able to use it so your stats would be as follows at level 71:
Strength: 110
Dexterity: 246
Luck: 4
Intelligence: 4

And if the bottle was also scrolled with 7/7 60%s your range would be: 318-882. Making the Sake Dex build an brilliant alternative for obvious reasons!

Ending
Thanks if you took the time to read my idea. I would really appreciate feedback!

I got the images from hidden-street.net and also used their damage calculator.

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  Guide Attempt: First Job Magician Guide
Posted by: Ganondorf - 2008-07-02, 10:35 PM - Forum: Magician - Replies (13)

First Job Magician Guide

This is a simple guide for first job magicians, but nothing more, mainly because I simply don't have the experience in MS to write anything more.

This also means that suggestions and/or additions on more advanced topics are 100% welcome. I'll need them.

Table of Contents


1. Why should I go Mage?
2. Luk vs. Lukless
3. Skills
4. Skill Builds
5. Energy Bolt vs. Magic Claw
6. A brief view into Second Job and Beyond
7. Training Spots (Coming Soon)
8. Closing

9. Credit to those who helped

1. Why Should I go Mage?


Here are some quick pros and cons of Mages:

Pros:


Good damage
Have elemental/holy spells that do more damage to certain creature types second job
Good mobility with teleport
Magic Guard (Turns 80% of damage to MP instead of HP allows for a fair amount of survivability when on
[SIZE=2]Bishop Only: Amazing at bossing

Cons:[/SIZE]


Low survivability without Magic Guard due to low health
Fire/Poison and Ice/Lightning Only: Not terribly good at bossing (This is more of an advanced topic I don't know much about, it's simply what I've heard)

In the end, though, it's all up to you what class you play. I reccomend choosing whichever class looks to suit you most.

2. Luk vs. Lukless


Short summary:

Lukless is better than Luk. Luk is simply something that gets you to be able to equip a weapon with higher Magic Attack than regular weapons.

For example:

A Dragon Staff requires 113 luk to use and 125 Magic Attack and 4 INT.
A Maple Wisdom Staff or Shine Wand requires no luk to use and has 80 Magic Attack and 1 INT (As well as some other bonuses, but let's ignore those for now.

So, while a Dragon Staff gets you 45 more magic Attack and 3 more INT, it comes at the cost of using 113 points that could be used in INT instead.

This is simply an example of the basic logic of lukless. I believe it applies to most other things, but honestly, I am no expert here.

Godly lukless is much more expensive than godly luk, though. By the time you have to worry about this, however, you should at least have ways to make money available, even if you don't necessarily have the money all the time.

3. Skills


Improving MP Recovery:


Master Level: 16

Pre-Requisite: None

Official Description: Recovering even more MP every 10 sec. The higher the level of the character and the skill level, the more recovery it enables the character to have.

Levels:

 Spoiler

Opinion: Pretty good skill. While it isn't going to stop you from using MP pots altogether, it'll certainly slow down the usage a bit. Besides, it's better than the other skills you could put it in.

Improving Max MP Increase:


Master Level: 10

Pre-Requisite: 5 in Improving MP recovery

Official Description: This skill boosts up the amount of increase on MaxMP after each Level UP, or AP used on MaxMP.

Levels:

 Spoiler

Opinion: Easily the best skill here. That MP will add up to quite a lot. Because you can get more MP by maxing this skill sooner, it should be your first or close to first priority.

Magic Guard:


Master Level: 20

Pre-Requisite: None

Official Description: Temporarily replaces damage with MP instead of HP. If MP reaches 0, the HP takes a full hit.

Levels:

 Spoiler

Opinion: Another amazing skill. Mages have very low health, and you'd be HP potting over and over without this at lower levels, and would one shotted at higher levels without it. The onlytime a Mage shouldn't have this up when battling monsters not extremely lower than their level is when a low level Cleric is training with Heal, and even then, some say that you should use it. (Note: For the very last statement, this is only one person's opinion... tell me if it's unpopular and I'll take it out)

Magic Armor:


Master Level: 20

Pre-Requisite: 3 in Magic Guard

Official Description: Temporarily boosts the weapon defense by blowing magic into the armor.

Levels:

 Spoiler

Opinion: Bleh. Terrible. WDEF simply means way too little in Maple. Besides, there are much better skills.

Energy Bolt:


First, I'd just like to note that this is the only uniquely named first level skill (Doesn't follow the pattern of having Magic or Improving as the first word). ZOMG!

Master Level: 20

Pre-Requisite: None

Official Description: Use MP to attack one enemy.

Levels:

 Spoiler

Opinion: See Magic Claw vs. Energy Bolt section.

Magic Claw:


Master Level: 20

Pre-Requisite: 1 in Energy Bolt

Official Description: Use MP to attack an enemy twice.

Levels:

 Spoiler

Opinion: See Magic Claw vs. Energy Bolt section.

Skill Builds:


Regular Build:


 Spoiler

The basic cookie cutter build. It takes Energy Bolt first to allow you to not be whacking at snails for quite a few more levels, but makes certain to max Improving Max MP Increase straight after to prevent any further Max MP loss. After that, it goes to Magic Claw because it really is quite a lot better than Energy Bolt (See Energy Bolt vs. Magic Claw section). It goes to Improving MP Recovery after to lower your pot usage, then takes Magic Guard.

The only two cons of this build are that it has a few points less Max MP than if you immediately put points towards Improving Max MP Increase, and that you will be forced to use a good amount of HP Pots before you get Magic Guard, but the lesser MP usage seems to be worth it.

Meso Saving Build:


 Spoiler

The only difference between this build and the regular one is that you switch finishing off Improving MP Recovery and Magic Claw to save a few pots. Not worth it, in my opinion.

Maximum MP Build


 Spoiler

This build ensures that you have the maximum amount of MP possible by taking Improving Max MP Increase as soon as possible. Of course, this means that you'll be whacking away at snails for quite a few more levels! Most people deem the comparitively small increase as just not worth it. You could use Exchanges quests to get these levels, if you're funded.

Energy Bolt Build:


 Spoiler

See the Energy Bolt vs. Magic Claw section for more information. Also, feel free to substitute the final point in Magic Armor for Magic Claw, either way, it really doesn't matter.

5. Energy Bolt vs. Magic Claw


First, the final level of each:

Magic Claw: Level 20: MP -20; Basic attack 40 x 2 Hit, mastery 60%
Energy Bolt: Level 20: MP -14; Basic attack 55, mastery 60%

So, as you can clearly see, against a monster with no MDEF, Magic Claw does 80 Base Attack and Energy Bolt does 55 Base aTtack. Magic Claw wins, easily.

But against a monster with high MDEF? Chances are Magic Claw still wins. Really, by the time those monsters come along, you will (Or at least, SHOULD) be using other, better skills.

You may also notice that Magic Claw cost 6 more MP. However, the damage increase tends to be enough to outweigh that. Really, it just isn't worth it.

All in all, though, it just doesn't matter. Like I said before, you'l be using other, better skills by the time Energy Bolt can be better than Magic Claw. If you want to be unique for whatever reason, feel free to go Energy Bolt. Hell, I actually reccomend you to go Energy Bolt in that case, telling noobs to take Magic Armor then showing them you have it has got to be quite fun.

6. A Brief Overview into the Second Job and Beyond


First, it should be noted that Fire/Poison and Ice/Lightning both focus on damage, whereas Clerics focus on healing other players and giving out buffs, however, they do far less damage than the damagers for the most part, though damage is not so small that it is terrible.

Fire/Poison: These guys can poison enemies and have good single mob damage. They do have area of effect attacks as well, however.

Ice/Lightning: These guys can freeze enemies and are great at mobbing. They do have single target attacks as well, however.

Cleric: As said before, these guys focus on healing and giving out buffs.


7. Training Spots


[SIZE=2]Note: You will be training *ON* the levels reccomended, not up to them.


Classic Training[/SIZE]
:

Normal Mage (Takes Energy Bolt first point):

Levels 8-15: Slime Tree
Levels 16-22: Pig Beach
Levels 22-25: Green Mushrooms (Sleepywood) or Bubblings (Kerning City) or Kerning City Party Quest
Levels 26-29: Ant Tunnel or Kerining City Party Quest

Maximum MP Mage (Doesn't take Energy Bolt first point):

Levels 8-12: Green Snails, Blue Snails, Small Mushrooms (Henesys Hunting Ground 1 Bottom)
Levels 13-29: Continue as normal

Ariant Training:


[SIZE=2]While I am uncertain as to whether or not Ariant monster training is better than regular monster training, or where to train for monster training, I personally find that Ariant Colosseum is very good exp from whatever level you find yourself being able to hit the Scorpions well enough all the way to 29. Plus, you might get a Palm Tree Beach Chair out of it, too![/SIZE]

8. Closing

This is not an amazing guide, it is a simple guide for simple guide for simple topics. The more advanced topics I have clearly had trouble in, and suggestions and/or additions are perfectly welcome.

9. Credit to those who helped:

[SIZE=2]-Retalion: Various advanced topics
-Hana: Reminding me to do a training section
-jessiebelle: Helping me with the training section

If you help in *any* way, you're name will be listed here.
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  Conspiracy Horntail Runs
Posted by: HiiEN - 2008-07-02, 10:12 PM - Forum: World Forums & Marketplace - Replies (20)

2nd Gen Horntail Runs [v2.0]

Seeing as the original one isn't updated anymore, I decided to remake it. It's just a simple history of our runs and used as a reference. These results are partially copied from our forum, so what you'll see here is word for word from what we've done. Enjoy!

Runs

 Spoiler
List of Pendant Owners from 2nd Gen
List is in alphabetical order. Eggs are denoted by +x next to the name.
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P.S. As with any threads, I ask for no drama and no derailing please. Thank you!

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  [Server Check] 7-2-08
Posted by: Saver - 2008-07-02, 09:39 PM - Forum: Nexon Announcements - Replies (29)

MapleStory will be going through a scheduled Server Check on Wednesday, July 2nd, 2008.



This one involves the game servers, and it'll last for approximately 3.5 hours.



<MapleStory Patch>



- Server : All Game Servers



- Time : Wednesday, July 2nd, 10:00 pm ~ 1:30 am PDT

(Thursday, July 3rd, 5:00 am ~ 8:30 am GMT)



The website will be available during the Patch.



Thank you, and Happy Mapling

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Not being able to post in the announcement section sucks =[

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  Base DEX
Posted by: Jirai - 2008-07-02, 09:30 PM - Forum: Warrior - Replies (37)

I'm sure as a Warrior you're well aware of how important capping your base DEX is.

I created my character quite a while ago and was told that I should cap DEX at 80.

...So I did.
But now I regret it.
It would take $124 to reset 40 of that DEX into STR. That's quite a lot of money to spend just to improve my damage.
But that's 40 more points into STR, 8 levels worth of STR. And I would still have just about enough acc to hit everything I would train on.

What would you do, leave the DEX as is, or spend the money towards reseting it?

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  Hilo
Posted by: GenesisPro - 2008-07-02, 08:47 PM - Forum: Amherst - Replies (6)

Hey :3 Just heard about this site seems very nice. I love your work Fiel and Ive always felt like some of your work should be came closed source. You put in so much work. Anyways I'm going to be lurking here now Smile.To everyone else I'm GenesisPro from Scania Gaved up training but love reading about maple still Confused

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  [Windia] How's your day?
Posted by: iamflip - 2008-07-02, 07:46 PM - Forum: World Forums & Marketplace - Replies (23)

Self-explanatory. Smile Tell us what you did in Windia today. Boring or not, tell us all.

I'll start with mine. Leveled to 67 today on SageFIip and then tried and failed a 60% on my staff. Sad

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  Hello, It is Pie
Posted by: PieM4ster - 2008-07-02, 07:34 PM - Forum: Amherst - Replies (5)

Hello everyone, I am PieM4ster, also known as either DSdestroyer on GFaqs or some crappy name that starts with Pie on Broa. Good to be here.

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