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JoeTang · (This post was last modified: 2013-06-14, 04:09 PM by JoeTang.)

Skill chaining is a special effect that causes fluid movement between two skills. A notable example of this is Mercedes' Charge Drive -> Rolling Moonsault -> Gust Drive -> Lightning Edge, and Phantom's Brise Carte -> Phantom Charge -> Twilight. There is a set timing window in where the next skill can be activated to be chained. If this window is missed, there is generally a significantly longer delay in using the next skill. The skill being chained generally requires activation during the current skill, not after, and thus activates immediately. This separates it from just consecutive spamming of two different skills. Along with this, most skill chains have a special property called "skipActionFrame".

In the data, "skipActionFrame x" designates that when this specific skill successfully chains to another, frame "x" and afterwards are skipped, reducing the delay of the skill. i.e. the skill ends sooner than it normally would, making it faster. Some skills also have a specialActiomFrame/delay, but I do not believe this actually affects the attack speed, as Mercedes' skills have them and I have not noticed any variation.

Technical Information

As an example:
Hayato's Sanrenzan, first slash has

Code:
skill/41001000/addAttack/skill    41001004

skill/41001000/addAttack/type    0

skill/41001000/addAttack/reqCount    1

skill/41001000/addAttack/pattern    154

skill/41001000/addAttack/skipActionFrame    4

skill/41001000/addAttack/patternType    1

skill/41001000/addAttack/skillPlus/0    41001002

skill/41001000/addAttack/patternPlus/0/pattern    155

skill/41001000/addAttack/patternPlus/0/skill    41001002

Here, you can see the first line designates the specific skill you are chaining to, Sanrenzan's second attack. There is also a designation for skipActionFrame = 4, as well as a skillPlus, which designates another skill that can be chained, in this case Renjinzan's first attack.

If we look at the delay data, we see this:

Code:
kenjiSwing1/0/action    swingO1

kenjiSwing1/0/frame    0

kenjiSwing1/0/delay    -30

kenjiSwing1/1/action    swingO3

kenjiSwing1/1/frame    1

kenjiSwing1/1/delay    -90

kenjiSwing1/1/move/x    4

kenjiSwing1/1/move/y    0

kenjiSwing1/2/action    swingO1

kenjiSwing1/2/frame    2

kenjiSwing1/2/delay    120

kenjiSwing1/3/action    swingO3

kenjiSwing1/3/frame    0

kenjiSwing1/3/delay    60

kenjiSwing1/3/move/x    -21

kenjiSwing1/3/move/y    0

kenjiSwing1/4/action    swingO3

kenjiSwing1/4/frame    0

kenjiSwing1/4/delay    60

kenjiSwing1/4/move/x    -21

kenjiSwing1/4/move/y    0

The delay data designates the character position, movement, and delay involved with a specific skill. More than just some number of milliseconds of attacking, it includes each individual "frame" involved, that is a specific time spent doing some part of the attack. The "delay" information may appear as a negative, and we have not discovered the significance in this, but it should be treated as a positive when adding. In this example, the skipActionFrame = 4, so when chaining to the second slash of Sanrenzan, Frame number 4 is skipped (and should there be any other frames afterwards, they are skipped too), reducing the delay by 60ms, cutting out the last portion of the skill.

In summary, most chained skills will reduce the delay, making the skills execute faster than if they were to be used on their own.

This information does not account for possible spam delays and terrain effects or character positions that would otherwise prevent their use. i.e. I do not know if there are any restrictions that can occur that prevent these chains from being executed. This is merely what is presented in the data.

Hayato:
Of Hayato's skills, only the first job skills have prerequisites for activation; that is, you are required to use [Sanrenzan] and [Renjinzan]'s first hit before the second, etc, but no other skills require anything to activate. Any different instances of [Sanrenzan]'s icon is purely stylistic. Any level of the skill itself is interchangeable.

First Job

Second Job

Third Job

4th Job

Mercedes:

Spoiler

Phantom:

Spoiler

Buccaneer:

Spoiler

Aran:

Spoiler

Demon Slayer:

Spoiler

Kaiser:

Spoiler

Angelic Buster:

Spoiler

Thunder Breaker:

Spoiler

Dawn Warrior:

Spoiler

Credits:
Fiel for data
Locked for his opinion and skill icons and being a weiner.

ElderTree · 2012-07-26, 01:16 PM

Very nice! Thanks for compiling this. Hyato looks extremely interesting due to the large number of chaining combos you can do.

1) For Hyato's first job, you mention that Renjinzan has 4 attacks, but in the long chain example, you show Sanrenzan (x3) -> Renjinzan (x5). I assume you just threw in one too many Renjinzan into that chain?

2) Are there any chaining delay reductions for Aran?

ShinkuDragon · 2012-07-26, 02:01 PM

dang hayato, shame he can't cycle-combo, would have made my amounts of want go off the charts, but still such a well-thought class QQ

Sega · 2012-07-26, 03:13 PM

Not sure if this was intentional, but the dual blades have a combo they can do...

LegendGospel · 2012-07-26, 04:03 PM

Yeah, you left out Dual Blades.

Also, I wonder, when mages "telecast", do we actually get a delay decrease on our attacks?

JoeTang · 2012-07-26, 04:42 PM

ElderTree Wrote:Very nice! Thanks for compiling this. Hyato looks extremely interesting due to the large number of chaining combos you can do.

1) For Hyato's first job, you mention that Renjinzan has 4 attacks, but in the long chain example, you show Sanrenzan (x3) -> Renjinzan (x5). I assume you just threw in one too many Renjinzan into that chain?

2) Are there any chaining delay reductions for Aran?

Thanks, I fixed that.

Arans have what I presume to be a server sided skill chain, and it does not use the same information presented in the data. None of their skills have delay reduction though.

ShinkuDragon Wrote:dang hayato, shame he can't cycle-combo, would have made my amounts of want go off the charts, but still such a well-thought class QQ

He has plenty of combos he can cycle. It's just extremely redundant and time consuming to make the table show ABCABCABC... instead of just ABCA..., or DABCACBABC...

You can see in 1st job, he was one long repeatable chain. Renjinzan can be chained back to Sanrenzan at any time as well.

2nd job shows all the possible chains, and you can repeat Dankuusen>Shouryuusen>Dankuusen... assuming you don't need to be grounded for Shouryuusen.

3rd job shows some new possible chains, such as Shouryuusen and Dankuusen chaining to Senpuuzan.

The 4th job table would be 8 rows longer if I showed all the possible things you could chain with the new skills, when you could just scroll up and open the spoiler for reach.

Moldyvort Wrote:Not sure if this was intentional, but the dual blades have a combo they can do...

Dual Blades don't have any information in the data regarding to how their skill chains work.

LegendGospel Wrote:Also, I wonder, when mages "telecast", do we actually get a delay decrease on our attacks?

No.

The only other classes that have Skill Chaining data like this is Demon Slayer's Demon Slash, and Kaiser.

ShinkuDragon · 2012-07-26, 05:46 PM

JoeTang Wrote:Thanks, I fixed that.

Arans have what I presume to be a server sided skill chain, and it does not use the same information presented in the data. None of their skills have delay reduction though.

He has plenty of combos he can cycle. It's just extremely redundant and time consuming to make the table show ABCABCABC... instead of just ABCA..., or DABCACBABC...

You can see in 1st job, he was one long repeatable chain. Renjinzan can be chained back to Sanrenzan at any time as well.

2nd job shows all the possible chains, and you can repeat Dankuusen>Shouryuusen>Dankuusen... assuming you don't need to be grounded for Shouryuusen.

3rd job shows some new possible chains, such as Shouryuusen and Dankuusen chaining to Senpuuzan.

The 4th job table would be 8 rows longer if I showed all the possible things you could chain with the new skills, when you could just scroll up and open the spoiler for reach.

Dual Blades don't have any information in the data regarding to how their skill chains work.

No.

The only other classes that have Skill Chaining data like this is Demon Slayer's Demon Slash, and Kaiser.

sorry, i guess i wasn't specific enough, he has high level skill, but he can't cycle through those, instead all his skills go down by job until reaching first, and at that point, only first job is cycling, and there's no way to get back to 4th job skills but by stopping the flurry-

JoeTang · 2012-07-26, 05:57 PM

ShinkuDragon Wrote:sorry, i guess i wasn't specific enough, he has high level skill, but he can't cycle through those, instead all his skills go down by job until reaching first, and at that point, only first job is cycling, and there's no way to get back to 4th job skills but by stopping the flurry-

Yousousen > Senpuuzan > (Shouryuusen > Dankuusen) > Yousousen

Hikarasu > Issen > Senpuuzan > (30 seconds) Hikarasu > Issen

Polantaris · 2012-07-26, 09:28 PM

This is great info, much appreciated JoeTang.

babagreensheep · 2012-07-27, 05:36 AM

would it be too much to be asking for animations/videos of how these chains work out?

JoeTang · 2012-08-14, 08:40 PM

I've updated to include Aran, Demon Slayer, Kaiser, and Angelic Buster.

Aran's Final Blow chains to Beyonder, and vice versa.

JoeTang · 2013-01-21, 10:00 PM

I've updated the thread for Thunder Breaker's information, and I'll keep it updated for any changes they do to these if possible.

Heero · 2013-01-21, 10:09 PM

JoeTang Wrote:Almost all of Thunder Breaker's skills can be linked to each other.

I feel like this is what buccaneer should have been...Nevertheless, my body is ready for this skill chaining combo god of tekken life

emailbox · 2013-01-22, 12:29 AM

Holy pomegranate, I can't wait for this class... Being able to use all their skills to chain off each other will be awesome.

LiquidSwing · 2013-02-22, 02:05 AM

Does Senpuu no Jin not chain to anything?

JoeTang · 2013-02-22, 02:16 AM

LiquidSwing Wrote:Does Senpuu no Jin not chain to anything?

No, it doesn't.

Link · 2013-02-22, 01:41 PM

LiquidSwing Wrote:Does Senpuu no Jin not chain to anything?

Senpuu no Yaiba is a standalone skill with a cooldown. It has no means of connecting to another skill.

JoeTang · 2013-06-14, 04:17 PM

Updated Arans.

There's a slight difference between 2nd/3rd and 4th Job, for whatever reason Nexon deemed appropriate.

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