2011-05-14, 10:44 PM
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Cure for cancer found.
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2011-05-14, 10:54 PM
Nalek Wrote:I've been up since 4 am gimmie a break LOL.. NO NATE. YOU SHOULD FEEL EXTREMELY BAD. Seriously though how did you just suddenly find this? "YO, YOU KNOW WHAT I HAVENT LOOKED INTO, FUCKING CANCER CURES, THAT'S RIGHT"
2011-05-15, 12:13 AM
(This post was last modified: 2011-05-15, 04:06 AM by 2147483647.)
They haven't finished testing yet. That's why nobody "cares". It's not even proven safe or effective yet. And anyone with an ounce of sense would realize that there is never going to be a "one drug fits all" type of cure. Ever.
2011-05-15, 12:59 AM
My classmate just died from cancer. If there is no money in it, the cure will get nowhere. Fucking pharmaceutical companies.
2011-05-15, 02:10 AM
inb4 we're all zombies tomorrow
But seriously, is there an actual reason this isn't well known?
2011-05-15, 02:30 AM
Tay Wrote:inb4 we're all zombies tomorrow Yes, because they can't make money off of it. People are greedy. :| I bet if it made one guy really rich, it'd be known world-wide.
2011-05-15, 02:38 AM
ShiKage Wrote:Yes, because they can't make money off of it. People are greedy. :| Actually, if it were successful, the drug can be quite profitable. The real reason this isn't well known is that it's not through clinical testing, so it can't be marketed. I find it irritating that people come in here just to jab at "how corrupt society is". Whoever the hell wrote this article is ridiculously opinionated, so form your own opinions instead of blindly accepting the journalist's, and stop hating just to hate. They even linked the article to the researcher's website.
2011-05-15, 02:41 AM
2147483647 Wrote:Actually, if it were successful, the drug can be quite profitable. The real reason this isn't well known is that it's not through clinical testing, so it can't be marketed. I did read the article and they said clearly that it's not being used because pharmaceuticals aren't using it because they can't profit off of it. That's the same as being greedy, no?
2011-05-15, 03:53 AM
We don't know what it works for, what doesn't nor do we know the full extent of the side effects. And before I take any of such drugs, unless it's the last line of defense, I won't take it until the full biochemistry is elucidated. There are clinical trials for good reasons.
Looking at what they did, they're not exactly very ethical, giving some patients this drug off-label is their private clinic. Who's going to answer for it if anything happens? Oh right... it can easily be covered up in such cases. Hah. For a good cause, but with questionable methodology. Hadriel
2011-05-15, 04:15 AM
Quote:DCA Research Team publishes results of Clinical Trials Their last update, for those lazy.
2011-05-15, 06:18 AM
Just so you guys know it:
Quote:In human bodies there is a natural cancer fighting human cell, the mitochondria, but they need to be triggered to be effective. This is not true. In other words, the guys who wrote this article don't know how the mitochondria works, and it's likely he doesn't know how to find a "cure" to cancer. The study contained 5 people, all with different combination of treatments which included DCA in one aspect or another. You cannot make anything satisfactory out of it and say that it is safe. Based on these results, it is not a cure for glioblastoma or any other cancer yet. And it's wrong that big pharma doesn't care at all, because there will always be a place where you will get use for it. In Norway and other countries where you get free healthcare, the government want to minimize the costs and maximize the efficiency. In what way wouldn't this do it?
2011-05-15, 11:39 PM
Devil's Sunrise Wrote:Just so you guys know it: According to a quick search, one of the main roles of mitochondria is "Cellular proliferation regulation". Isn't a cancer a form of cellular proliferation disorder? Maybe the study aims at stimulating mitochondria on that aspect, mainly. However, I know nothing else on the matter, so yeah, feel free to prove me wrong. But judging a whole scientific research out of a single sentece is quite... silly.
2011-05-16, 02:00 AM
The mitochondria controls cell proliferation by inducing apoptosis after receiving signals from various pathways. Disruption of the outer membrane integrity of the mitochondria will also lead to apoptosis.
Yes the study is on DCA trying to so-called wake up the mitochondria, but you see they've not actually told us how it works. We advocate caution and not rush things, because failing to identify any potential side effects can lead to disastrous results. Look at Thalidomide. Or as a counter-example that proves my point as well, look at the so-called link of vaccination to Autism in the UK. Hadriel
2011-05-16, 02:15 AM
Alloy Wrote:According to a quick search, one of the main roles of mitochondria is "Cellular proliferation regulation". Quote:In human bodies there is a natural cancer fighting human cell, the mitochondria, but they need to be triggered to be effective. Quote:a natural cancer fighting human cell, the mitochondria, Quote:human cell, the mitochondria Since this article is so old, should this really be relevant discussion for a current event, despite the most recent update saying the contrary to the topic, and still being a year old? |
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