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Possible for db to solo pb?
#1
Well their was a ss on basil of a db that solo pb with 40 minutes left. How is this possible?

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#2
PB is 65m exp last time I checked (did it change with chaos?), that's only 21m. On top of that, there is party bonus exp.... She has co and there is another character on the left side of the map.
If there was something like 2minutes left on the timer it would be a little more believable.. not with 41min left.
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#3
41 minutes is pretty hard to believe... but some people in KMS are pretty hardcore at the game, so you never know
I think this is the same DB that solo'd CZak pretty quickly too.. Couple videos on YouTube.. too lazy to find them though
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#4
Marksman Bryan Wrote:PB is 65m exp last time I checked (did it change with chaos?), that's only 21m. On top of that, there is party bonus exp.... She has co and there is another character on the left side of the map.

EXP splitting..?
Also I hate the whole argument about how "there's someone else on the map so it isn't a solo"
A solo can be defined as many things, it means one. So it can either be:
One person doing all the work (Multiple accounts, different computers, same person)
One person attacking alone. (People helping them buff, but not attacking)
One person by himself in the map. (What you're suggesting, more than likely)

Quote:If there was something like 2minutes left on the timer it would be a little more believable.. not with 41min left.

Okay bro. Count how many people are in the map that are actually visible (I only can see two) and it's still impressive to have 41 minutes left. I doubt you can bring 2 people into the map and finish killing it without dying (echo didn't run out) and finishing in under the hour.
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#5
Not sure if I remember correctly, but isn't their timer longer?
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#6
Locked Wrote:EXP splitting..?

I would assume the attacker would be getting more exp than 1/3rd. I have no idea how EXP splitting works, I was just pointing it out.

Locked Wrote:Also I hate the whole argument about how "there's someone else on the map so it isn't a solo"
A solo can be defined as many things, it means one. So it can either be:
One person doing all the work (Multiple accounts, different computers, same person)
One person attacking alone. (People helping them buff, but not attacking)
One person by himself in the map. (What you're suggesting, more than likely)

I'm saying the other person helped kill. I completely agree that having your own mules to buff yourself is a solo, you put the time and effort into those characters, why not be able to use them? Controlling more than one character at a time is difficult and a plausible answer to this, I still consider a solo as only one character doing the damage.

Locked Wrote:Okay bro. Count how many people are in the map that are actually visible (I only can see two) and it's still impressive to have 41 minutes left. I doubt you can bring 2 people into the map and finish killing it without dying (echo didn't run out) and finishing in under the hour.

Killing Pink Bean in 19 minutes by yourself is ridiculously impressive, don't get me wrong. That's the part that makes it hard for me to believe it was a "solo."
If ths person comes out with a video and shows it to be a solo, then major props.

It's still a VERY fast Pink Bean run, even if it was a duo or trio.
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#7
Pixie Wrote:Not sure if I remember correctly, but isn't their timer longer?

No.

Marksman Bryan Wrote:I would assume the attacker would be getting more exp than 1/3rd. I have no idea how EXP splitting works, I was just pointing it out.

My question mark was there because I, myself, am also not sure about how that could be possible. Looking at the party bonus it's 30%. You receive 10% bonus for 2 people and 5% afterwards, so there are 6 people in the party. Supposing that every character in that party is level 200, it makes the total level of the party 1200.
So then the formula would be:
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65000000 (0.2×200/1200+0.8*1)=54166666.33 exp

Which makes no sense, unless the party splitting formula changed, Pink Bean exp changed, party bonus formula changed, or she in fact didn't solo it by herself truly.

Quote:It's still a fast Pink Bean run, even if it was a duo or trio.

Indeed.
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#8
What's the red text above the exp?
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#9
Killed Wrote:What's the red text above the exp?
She can't gain anymore Charisma that day.
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#10
Never knew db has combat order as a skill. Look at the orange icon on the left mini map geez.
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#11
Did the self-HB icon change, or does that only affect the real HB icon?

Also, what recipes does PB drop?
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#12
Locked Wrote:EXP splitting..?
Also I hate the whole argument about how "there's someone else on the map so it isn't a solo"
A solo can be defined as many things, it means one. So it can either be:
One person doing all the work (Multiple accounts, different computers, same person)
One person attacking alone. (People helping them buff, but not attacking)
One person by himself in the map. (What you're suggesting, more than likely)



Okay bro. Count how many people are in the map that are actually visible (I only can see two) and it's still impressive to have 41 minutes left. I doubt you can bring 2 people into the map and finish killing it without dying (echo didn't run out) and finishing in under the hour.

Pretty much exactly what I said in same order as I posted on basil, with subtle alterations... -_-

http://www.basilmarket.com/show/screen/1...1#33839301
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#13
More importantly, what's that rock on the left side? o.O
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#14
Marksman Bryan Wrote:More importantly, what's that rock on the left side? o.O

Its a rock frog, for a frog event going on. Open them to get real frogs and you can trade them in to Cassandra. After you trade them to her a certain amount of times, you get a Frog Hat (which I think has attack).
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#15
All together, the boss battle has what, 6-7 bil HP?

20*60= 1200 seconds

6,500,000,000/1200= 5,416,666 DPS*3.33= 18,055,555 DPS approxomately. Assuming (s)he has a max range of 225,000 (the highest i've ever seen) (s)he would be doing 9440% per second.


Hmmmmmm.
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#16
Locked Wrote:One person attacking alone. (People helping them buff, but not attacking)

I can agree with the others, but I just can't accept this one. Mainly because "Solo" is "acting without the assistance of others" and having other classes buff said person is essentially "assisting" them by making their damage exceed their max potential, as compared to solely self-buffs and whatnot.

Also I think the reason why people cling to that "2+ people in a map =/= Solo" bit is due to the party EXP ratio split. It makes checking a full on solo extremely hard due to the formulas associated with it.

just my 2 cents =/
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#17
On a side note, this seems to indicate PB no longer drops MW30, but secret mastery books instead. Of course it's possible it can also drop MW30, but this screenshot along with "all mastery books are now secret mastery books" saying seem to indicate otherwise.

On topic, if it were gMS, I'd definitely say this wasn't a solo. Due to the EXP, it seems this kMS run was not a solo either, but more likely a duo or trio. Unless other attackers in the expedition died or left, it would seem it was a duo or trio. That said, given how there's still 41min left and the Dual Blade was possibly the highest DPS attacker there, I wouldn't put it past this kMSer to solo PB by himself.
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#18
Xephia Wrote:On a side note, this seems to indicate PB no longer drops MW30, but secret mastery books instead. Of course it's possible it can also drop MW30, but this screenshot along with "all mastery books are now secret mastery books" saying seem to indicate otherwise.

On topic, if it were gMS, I'd definitely say this wasn't a solo. Due to the EXP, it seems this kMS run was not a solo either, but more likely a duo or trio. Unless other attackers in the expedition died or left, it would seem it was a duo or trio. That said, given how there's still 41min left and the Dual Blade was possibly the highest DPS attacker there, I wouldn't put it past this kMSer to solo PB by himself.

I'm pretty sure all bosses only drop secret mastery books post-Chaos.
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#19
Dark Link Wrote:I can agree with the others, but I just can't accept this one. Mainly because "Solo" is "acting without the assistance of others" and having other classes buff said person is essentially "assisting" them by making their damage exceed their max potential, as compared to solely self-buffs and whatnot.

What if you need HB to survive a hit? MW to equip your something? CO to max something?
Sure it isn't definitely a complete, true solo but people do it all the time.


CautionSin Wrote:Pretty much exactly what I said in same order as I posted on basil, with subtle alterations... -_-

http://www.basilmarket.com/show/screen/1...1#33839301

Lmao I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing. I did it completely by accident.
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#20
Xephia Wrote:On a side note, this seems to indicate PB no longer drops MW30, but secret mastery books instead. Of course it's possible it can also drop MW30, but this screenshot along with "all mastery books are now secret mastery books" saying seem to indicate otherwise.

F444. I Guess that answers my question. Pretty lame, no wonder the availibility of MW30 in KMS is so scarce.
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