Wtp is so bad about Rage?

Ok, this is really getting on my nerves. Yesterday I was cpqing and this sin in my party was like "OMG a fighter" and I was like "wtp is wrong with her?".
Later when I got into the CPQ, I used rage and she was like "OMG you raged me! f@ck you! *defames and leaves the party*". I left as well and confronted her (as well as defaming her) and she was like "YOU F@CKEN MADE ME WASTE AN ONYX APPLE YOU NOOB!" and she logs.
sheesh what is the world coming to? she could've AT LEAST said to the whole party she was using Onyx apples >.<. Later she logged in again and I had 6 of my mules gangbash her fame while in fm (she deserves it for her insolence) but it also makes me think if rage in GMS for a fighter is useless for others...

Anyway I still dont see what's wrong with Rage (I maxed it). Will others get pissed if I used my max rage?

What I want to know is why she was using a Onyx apple in CPQ.

What I want to know is why she was using a Onyx apple in CPQ.

Yea that's what I want to know too, personally I believe that's a major waste of apple...

I rage, I don't care what she thinks. Waste of mesos spending time on atk pots.

Because they have extremely cheap 12 att pots that make rage quite useless.

Because they have extremely cheap 12 att pots that make rage quite useless.

Still, who WOULD waste mesos just for one potion in one CPQ round?

My thoughts:

1. Anybody using an Onyx Apple for CPQ deserves a spanking.

2. If she could say "OMG a Fighter" she could also say, "DON'T RAGE!!!!" It's not like she didn't know it could happen.

3. You should have asked your party if they objected to you Raging. Some people don't like it, either because they are using potions or because they don't want to lose w.def and increase the risk of dying (not usually a problem in CPQ, since dying there doesn't cost exp, but still). You have to remember other classes have less HP than you do, and 5 more HP lost per hit taken can be significant to them.

IME, people in CPQ kept asking me to Rage, and were disappointed when I told them I didn't have it. But I'm told that in the world outside CPQ, most parties prefer you didn't.

Onyx Apple in CPQ = what o_o

You get half of the exp from the win, and most monsters die in 1-3 hits anyway.

People are damage whores... In the vast majority of cases, the 2 less atk from warrior elixir to rage does not change the amount of hits it takes to kill the monster. They're being drama queens

I personally love it when I get raged. Then again, I also test out the elixirs as compared to pills and if there's no difference in the # of hits to kill on a particular map, I'll go with pills. Then I repeat that test comparing pills and nothing

Hey there pat =P

I basic rule I use is, use warrior elixers if it helps kill in less hits, but if its the same just use rage.

Oh and thing have gotten sad now days, I remember when I'd here "OMG A FIGHTER! ADD HIM" back then they only had 5 attack potions =\. But the its the guys falt, he should have told you he was appleing, basic rule of pap would be to tell the Hero/Sader if rage or no rage. Same thing applys to everything else.

Ks his ass =D

If it's something like CPQ, why would you even USE an attack potion in the first place? Ok ok, assuming you don't have a Fighter~, then use it, I guess. But if you do, you're just wasting mesos. Dumb kids these days.

Rage dispels, attack pots don't >_> That's the main reason I don't like it. It's ok to have 10 atk instead of 12, but to have 0 because they keep forgetting to cast it is annoying.

Rage dispels, attack pots don't >_> That's the main reason I don't like it. It's ok to have 10 atk instead of 12, but to have 0 because they keep forgetting to cast it is annoying.

That depends on the person that's playing the Fighter.. In CPQ, I forgot if it was possible to even get Dispelled, but if that's the case, and it's a experienced Fighter, they will automatically know when to re-cast Rage anyways.

The only PQ where I see that a Warrior Elixer will be a lot better will be at APQ on the Geist Balrog stage, because that thing actually Dispels. >_>

I highly doubt she was using an apple in cpq, you cant even use pots in cpq (I think) so you'd have to use it before you go in...For cpq I would think max rage would be great

If im training with a sader/hero ill tell them to rage me because I really could care less about the 2 extra attack from elixers

Some people do just that, use an attack potion right before they enter a room. I used to do it with Warrior Elixirs, but to use an Onyx Apple for CPQ... she deserves to be smacked upside the head.

If a warrior Raged me while I had a Warrior Elixir on, I wouldn't care much 'cause the monsters were so easy to kill already. Takes 1-3 hits.

Yea, any major boss thing I make sure to ask about Rage so no one gets ticked off if I make them lose an apple. <_<


For any other PQ...screw it. I really hate when people flip out in PPQ because they're using warrior elixers and they're the only melee class doing so. For example, a PPQ party something along the lines of this:

Crusader
Ranger
Dragon Knight
Hermit
Priest
IL Mage

Now, obviously the -w. def isn't an issue as long as my rage comes right before the priest's bless (if anyone were to care THAT much <.<). The thing I don't like is when someone whines about using a 12 attack potion and me wasting it when I rage.

Basic math would show that for the extra 2 att that one person has, the -30 attack the other people don't have is a much bigger impact. <_<

I've never had a single run in any kind of PQ where more then one person is using elixers. Most are like Crusader, yay, saves me 5k.


And ew...dispel sucks. D: But, aside from the giant boss map like the aPQ fight with Geist Balrog, recasting Rage is usually one of the first skills I recast. It is usually Combo/Booster, Rage/Iron Defense, and Power Guard. :X

Rage is awesome. Don't listen to them. ;P

I always ask my party if they want rage or not. If not, they'll usually lend me some att pots (if they're nice) because I don't carry my own. The main reason people don't want rage is because it dispels other attack pots and skills, and rage can be dispelled. I personally say "Why buy pots if I can just use one of my skills?" It doesn't make a huge difference. So I say, always ask incase you've got weirdoes who use apples in opq, and it's polite!

I always use Warrior Elixirs on my sader, just because it both saves time and can't be dispelled. Most people expect it of you to not use rage, i.e. my old guild leader, Salleem. He flipped on me one time when I used Rage when he was appling a cake or the geist. That 90 attack difference is what people freak out about. That'll nearly double your power in a lot of places. It can turn a pq going good into a total failure.

Most fighters ask if they should use rage before using it. It's more of the fact people use att pots to buff themselves these days. I guess in CPQ it doesn't matter but when you see a sader/hero use it on a BOSS fight then its retarded -_-

Still, who WOULD waste mesos just for one potion in one CPQ round?

On those? I always did when I CPQ'd in Yellonde. Only cost 5k per cpq not a big deal.