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Yahoo; Wrote:LOS ANGELES The Walt Disney Company has started an ambitious and risky march toward the one corner of childhood it does not already dominate: newborns.
Late last month, the company quietly began pressing its newest priority, Disney Baby, in 580 maternity hospitals in the United States. A representative visits a new mother and offers a free Disney Cuddly Bodysuit, a variation of the classic Onesie.
In bedside demonstrations, the bilingual representatives extol the products bells and whistles extra soft! durable! better sizing! and ask mothers to sign up for e-mail alerts from DisneyBaby.com. More than 200,000 bodysuits will be given away by May, when Amazon.com is set to begin selling 85 styles for a starting price of $9.99 for two; Nordstrom and Target will follow with more Disney Baby items, including hats.
If ever there was an opportunity for a trusted brand to enter a market and provide a better product and experience, its this, said Robert A. Iger, chief executive of Disney. Im extremely excited about it.
The endeavor dances close to a flame. Disney has suffered harsh criticism in recent years over products directed at the very young. The fiercest battle has involved Baby Einstein, the Disney-owned maker of developmental and entertainment videos and toys for babies and toddlers.
The Campaign for a Commercial-Free Childhood, a nonprofit organization, claimed victory in 2009 when Disney, apparently acknowledging that the products did not turn babies into geniuses after all, offered some Baby Einstein refunds.
But Disney has moved on. In this new venture, the company gains access to the maternity hospitals through a company called Our365, a business that sells bedside baby pictures. Our365 pays hospitals for exclusive access, and companies like Disney pay Our365 to promote their own products. Our365 also has Fisher-Price and Procter & Gamble as clients. It is unclear whether mothers know of Our365s financial ties to these companies.
Certainly hospitals have given new mothers gift bags for decades. In recent years, however, more have banned the practice, citing criticism that free baby formula, for example, discourages breast-feeding. Privacy also is a concern. This is taking advantage of families at an extremely vulnerable time, said Jeff McIntyre, director of national policy for the advocacy group Children Now.
Elizabeth Carter gave birth to her daughter Olivia on Jan. 19 in Piedmont, Calif., and was given a Disney Cuddly Bodysuit as part of an Our365 photo package. It surprised me that Disney was in there promoting something right as the baby was born, but we figured as new parents we werent in a position to turn free things down, she said.
Mrs. Carter put the garment on her hours-old baby immediately. And I have to say Olivia looked fabulous, much better than the rough, bulky thing the hospital had her wearing, she said.
Disney estimates the North American baby market, including staples like formula, to be worth $36.3 billion annually. Its executives talk about tapping into that jackpot as if they were waging a war. Apparel is only a beachhead, said Andy Mooney, chairman of Disney Consumer Products.
As such, the company does not intend to stop with bodysuits, which are playfully adorned with Disney characters like Simba from The Lion King. Also planned are bath items, strollers, baby food and an abundance of other products all pushed with so much marketing muscle that Disney Baby may actually dent operating margins in Mr. Mooneys division in the near term. But this is a long-term play, and it could have its greatest value far beyond the crib. Disney Baby is also intended to draw mothers into the companys broader web of products and experiences. Mr. Mooney is working on a loyalty program, for instance, in which pregnant women might receive free theme park tickets in return for signing up for e-mail alerts.
To get that mom thinking about her familys first park experience before her baby is even born is a home run, Mr. Mooney said, adding that a surprisingly large number of families do not become consumers of Disney products until their children reach preschool age, when they start to watch Disney Channel programs like Mickey Mouse Clubhouse.
Disney as a whole is working harder to reach younger children. Disney Junior, a new channel for preschool viewers, will arrive on Feb. 14. Disneyland Resort in California will soon start a yearlong celebration of the Its a Small World boat ride, giving Disney Baby a marketing tie-in. Walt Disney Studios, meanwhile, will release a new Winnie the Pooh movie in theaters in July.
Disney already operates a line of licensed products for infants, but results have been limited because Disney has relied almost entirely on simple licensing deals with companies like Kimberly-Clark, the maker of Huggies diapers. Grouping baby products under one brand that is controlled and heavily marketed by Disney represents a bigger opportunity, Mr. Mooney said.
The model is Disney Princess, a brand created by Mr. Mooney 10 years ago by uniting the likes of Snow White and Sleeping Beauty. In doing so, Mr. Mooney transformed a $300 million annual business in individual doll sales into a $4 billion brand.
But other giants already are operating in the baby business. One is Gerber Childrenswear, which owns the trademark to the name Onesie. Why does Disney think it can succeed?
Mr. Iger, who has a month-old granddaughter, says Disney has an opportunity to leverage its brand. Its about making something easier and providing them with a personalized, high-quality product, he said.
Rachel Bernstein, an obstetrician-gynecologist in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., who is pregnant herself, said she was concerned about marketers using hospitals as customer hunting grounds. But Disney is a nice company, she said, and I think my patients would actually be thrilled to get free Disney stuff.
The strategy is frankly overdue, at least given Disneys strong track record in other childhood niches, said Philip Kotler, a marketing professor at the Kellogg School of Management, Northwestern University and co-author of Marketing 3.0: From Products to Customers to the Human Spirit.
But Professor Kotler added one asterisk. There are bound to be critics moms and dads who think Disney is already too powerful a force in the lives of children, he said. Disney needs those moms who are getting a free sample to stand up and say, Yes, Im savvy enough to realize what Disney is up to, but I dont care because this is a really great product. Source
I'm all for free market enterprise, but Disney needs to calm the f**k down...
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Is this what Walt Disney had in mind for his company? I can understand the need to be competitive in this day and age, but starting a brainwashing product line geared towards new born babies is just over the top.
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I don't see the problem here.
Disney has been licensing their characters for use in baby clothes and toys, if not manufacturing those items themselves, for years or even decades.
Maternity Hospital bedside giveaways are nothing new, either. I wouldn't mind a free outfit for my baby. Unless you show that these outfits somehow make the baby allergic to the competition's clothes, who cares if there's a Simba on it or the Gerber baby?
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SaptaZapta Wrote:I don't see the problem here.
Disney has been licensing their characters for use in baby clothes and toys, if not manufacturing those items themselves, for years or even decades.
Maternity Hospital bedside giveaways are nothing new, either. I wouldn't mind a free outfit for my baby. Unless you show that these outfits somehow make the baby allergic to the competition's clothes, who cares if there's a Simba on it or the Gerber baby?
Sure, free clothes are great, but its more than free clothes, it is about keeping these families under the grasp of one particular brand(Disney) throughout the childs life(0-18). Brand loyalty today means less free thinking adults in the future. Do you really want your kids to end up like Lindsey Lohan, or Miley Cyrus?
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Alley Wrote:Sure, free clothes are great, but its more than free clothes, it is about keeping these families under the grasp of one particular brand(Disney) throughout the childs life(0-18). Brand loyalty today means less free thinking adults in the future. Do you really want your kids to end up like Lindsey Lohan, or Miley Cyrus?
Makes me think of the movie Idiocracy, where a dystopian future is full of idiots who're controlled by advertisements on every single thing. Even the president.
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Alley Wrote:Sure, free clothes are great, but its more than free clothes, it is about keeping these families under the grasp of one particular brand(Disney) throughout the childs life(0-18). Brand loyalty today means less free thinking adults in the future. Do you really want your kids to end up like Lindsey Lohan, or Miley Cyrus?
What brand loyalty? Under whose grasp?
When my daughter was a baby, she had Winnie-the-Pooh clothes. When she got big enough to voice her own preferences, she wanted Disney Princesses. Now she's 14 and prefers Garfield and Futurama.
Everyone I know got samples of diapers in the hospital. None stayed "loyal" to that brand. All tried whatever was on sale, and kept buying whatever was the optimal cost/performance for them. Having a free sample just gave them a head start on the testing.
If Disney thinks they can "own" a person by having products available for every age, they're wrong.
If the free clothes are good and the store price is reasonable, I'd buy more. If they fall apart at the seams or cost more than the K-mart generics, I won't buy anymore. Simple as that.
The only possible "concern", if you want to call it that, is the "loyalty program" mentioned briefly. But Disney didn't invent that. Frequent flyers, shopper's clubs, store-specific credit cards, everybody tries to keep their customers coming back.
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Alley Wrote:Sure, free clothes are great, but its more than free clothes, it is about keeping these families under the grasp of one particular brand(Disney) throughout the childs life(0-18). Brand loyalty today means less free thinking adults in the future. Do you really want your kids to end up like Lindsey Lohan, or Miley Cyrus?
No but I would want my daughter to end up like Hilary Duff.
See what I did there?
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Free is always better than having to waste money on something that is only going to be out grown in an extremely short period of time. My own experience with my kids has shown that kids will always have their own ideas as to what they like and dont like. Each of my children are different in that they like. My son loved winnie the pooh as a baby and now he loves super heros like xmen, iron man and the ever present transformers. My daughter, the same way, loved winnie the pooh as a baby and has moved on to princesses and snoopy. Though she by far has a very wide variety of things she likes much like myself. No one is being brainwashed to be brand specific.
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Doesn't anyone remember what happened with Pokemon years ago? I was 6-7 years old when Pokemon first came out, and I was a Pokeholic. This is 13 years ago mind you, but everyone in my city (<15) wanted to be a Pokemon Master...
These things fade with time...
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I dislike that they're approaching parents with products and services at such a delicate time.
When you have a baby, you don't want a company representative in your face talking about all these deals. You want to enjoy your family and cherish the quiet time together.
I'm not really for such a complete consumerist society, but we've been in that direction for a long time now. Sigh >>
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SaptaZapta Wrote:What brand loyalty? Under whose grasp?
When my daughter was a baby, she had Winnie-the-Pooh clothes. When she got big enough to voice her own preferences, she wanted Disney Princesses. Now she's 14 and prefers Garfield and Futurama.
Everyone I know got samples of diapers in the hospital. None stayed "loyal" to that brand. All tried whatever was on sale, and kept buying whatever was the optimal cost/performance for them. Having a free sample just gave them a head start on the testing.
If Disney thinks they can "own" a person by having products available for every age, they're wrong.
If the free clothes are good and the store price is reasonable, I'd buy more. If they fall apart at the seams or cost more than the K-mart generics, I won't buy anymore. Simple as that.
The only possible "concern", if you want to call it that, is the "loyalty program" mentioned briefly. But Disney didn't invent that. Frequent flyers, shopper's clubs, store-specific credit cards, everybody tries to keep their customers coming back.
Sure, you and your daughter can think for your selfs, but there are plenty out there who can't. Even a small product placement here or there can spark your mind to the premise of buying that product, next time you need something of the sort. It really is scary that these companies can manipulate our minds.
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I agree, something free is always good. It doesn't mean that Disney is going to be brainwashing new parents into "only" buying their products from here on out. It's absurd to think that's the case. I've gone from Barney, Teletubbies, Pooh, Princesses, super heros.....all the way up to Aeropostale and Hollister. Mostly it becomes whatever the newest "fad" is and they eventually fade out with time. Other things do stick around and other things end up "coming back". I remember a time wanting nothing more than a pair of Reebox and a rugby shirt lol. Wouldn't be caught dead in those today.
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Surely anyone with half a brain knows what he/she likes more than another, but:
1/ There actually are people with less than half a brain
2/ One can only make decisions on what he's already known about. Are you one to experiment in every single goddamned thing in the world to be making the best choices, from diapers to girlfriends? Maybe you are, but a lot others (those with brains) aren't.
I see nothing wrong with trying to expand its market to cater for a new population, as long as they do it right. For now, they seem to be doing okay.
But judging by the horrible horrible things Disney has done which can't be undone in the recent years, as well as their mind-boggling effects on the intended targets, I don't feel too bright about this time either.
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Disney channel is an insult to intelligence as far as I see it.
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Shidoshi Wrote:Disney channel is an insult to intelligence as far as I see it. Nothing wrong with mindless entertainment..
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