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California Court overturned Proposition 8
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YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!BiggrinBiggrinBiggrinBiggrinBiggrinBiggrinBiggrinBiggrinBiggrinBiggrinBiggrinBiggrinBiggrin


Expecting Supreme Court though...
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#2
Heh, a lot of Southperryans will be happy...
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#3
Thank goodness. Now all that needs to be done is to overturn Linda Lingle's veto of the civil unions bill here in Hawaii.
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#4
So gay marriage is legal in cali?

Now all that's left is marijuana and rape. Big Grin
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It's about goddamn time. Too bad gay marriage is still illegal in Indiana...
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It was legal to begin with, but then some pro-traditional marriage people tricked the public into voting for Prop 8, which banned gay marriage. Now it's back, although the case will probably go in front of the Supreme Court. If it's stilled ruled unconstitutional, I see a big change coming for the entire country...
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Takebacker Wrote:Now all that's left is marijuana and rape. Big Grin

Did you just compare gay marriage and marijuana to rape?
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Takebacker Wrote:So gay marriage is legal in cali? Now all that's left is marijuana and rape. Big Grin

Did you just compare rape and marijuana to gay marriage?
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Takebacker Wrote:So gay marriage is legal in cali?

Now all that's left is marijuana and rape. Big Grin

Did you just compare rape and marijuana to gay marriage?
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Swerve Wrote:Did you just compare rape and marijuana to gay marriage?

I'm not seeing anything wrong with this analogy...
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#11
Taking it to the Supreme Court will be the biggest waste of judicial time.
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Swerve Wrote:Taking it to the Supreme Court will be the biggest waste of judicial time.

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They need to know when to just let it pineappleing go. So straight people can have happy/unhappy marriages but gays can't have happy marriages of their own?
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IllegallySane Wrote:They need to know when to just let it pineappleing go. So straight people can have happy/unhappy marriages but gays can't have happy marriages of their own?

Finalizing how clauses and rights should be implemented in gay marriage in reference to legal matters as well as determining how financial provisions will be sorted out is an issue that belongs in the Supreme Court. It is sad that matters of overall sexual preference need to be settled by judges trained not in fields of psychology, sociology, or human sexuality but rather the law. Gay marriage will be passed by legal measures, because the belief still runs counter to mainstream social acceptance. It's just funny how things work out.
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#14
I don't even care anymore.
I'm leaving this shit hole after I've gotten everything ready for ESL teaching.
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Judgment Wrote:Thank goodness. Now all that needs to be done is to overturn Linda Lingle's veto of the civil unions bill here in Hawaii.

While that's great, that's not "all that needs to be done." If Hawaii overturns her unconstitutional veto, then it would become only the 7th state, along with the District of Columbia, to have passed same-sex marriage laws. 43 to go after that.

Takebacker Wrote:So gay marriage is legal in cali?

Now all that's left is marijuana and rape. Big Grin

What the hell? Marijuana is one I can understand, but rape? Under no circumstance should, or will, that EVER be legal. I can't understand why people would want it to be in the first place. If you're not man enough to get someone to agree want to have sexual relations with you, then figure out a way to man up. That doesn't involve subjugating the other person.

holyforest Wrote:It was legal to begin with, but then some pro-traditional marriage people tricked the public into voting for Prop 8, which banned gay marriage. Now it's back, although the case will probably go in front of the Supreme Court. If it's stilled ruled unconstitutional, I see a big change coming for the entire country...

Technically same-sex marriage is still illegal in California as the chief judge who overturned Prop 8 today allowed it to remain temporarily on the books, in the event higher courts would accept appeals and hear the case. If they don't, then it's officially overturned. Chances are it will go before the Supreme Court, which is a scary thought considering the 5-4 conservative majority vote. That being said, if it remains unconstitutional, or if the Supreme Court finds it unconstitutional, the decision will have HUGE implications across the country in setting precedence for many legal battles over same-sex marriage bans. According to the article I read about the overturn today roughly 30 states have similar laws on the books to Prop 8, meaning over half the country could see sweeping overturns if California's decision stands.

Kurtle Wrote:I'm not seeing anything wrong with this analogy...

You never got back to my last PM months ago about homosexuality and gay marriage, but you're still bashing us. Want to continue that discussion or should I assume you no longer care?
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#16
This is just turning into a battle between progress and ignorance.
:<
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#17
That totally wasn't even a fully serious post. Gay marriage just got legalized in a state. Be happy. O_o
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The fact that my state actually did something right makes me happy. And the judge is spectacular. He wrote a 138 page analysis of every single point. He made great statements: this situation shouldn't have even been voted on. These are rights. And rights are supposed to be protected by the Constitution.

Edit: And Takebacker, it actually umm got re-legalized...but still, yeah...
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Takebacker Wrote:That totally wasn't even a fully serious post. Gay marriage just got legalized in a state. Be happy. O_o

My apologies Sylv. We know you're a smoker, so I wasn't sure if you were being serious or not.

holyforest Wrote:The fact that my state actually did something right makes me happy. And the judge is spectacular. He wrote a 138 page analysis of every single point. He made great statements: this situation shouldn't have even been voted on. These are rights. And rights are supposed to be protected by the Constitution.

Edit: And Takebacker, it actually umm got re-legalized...but still, yeah...

*136 page opinion.

And his main contentions focused on due process and equal provisions which were constitutionally violated under Prop 8. He also said the main clauses of the law had "no rational basis," effectively saying it was an illogical law.
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FrozNlite Wrote:My apologies Sylv. We know you're a smoker, so I wasn't sure if you were being serious or not.

Nah, just half sarcasm. Most excited for november, though. Only a bit longer after that (if approved) till every other state follows suit. ^-^

holyforest Wrote:Edit: And Takebacker, it actually umm got re-legalized...but still, yeah...

Technicalities. It's legal there now, and the chances of that ever changing again is extremely low.
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