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Character worth
#1
Is a character that is considered totally useless by the player base really all that useless? I'm gonna use myself as an example here, because according to the general maple player base I've made alot of useless characters.

My I/L archmage. What with Evan on the horizon, most now see archmages as totally useless branches of the magician tree. Even before Evan, bishops were favoured because of their general use in a party. How many people would miss archmages if they ceased to exist? To most, all that would happen is that there'd be a lot less level 200s cluttering up the rankings so "real" players could make their way up there. But then, why bother making a class if it has no niche in the game to call its own? Turns out, the only real reason I made an I/L mage was because they could hit 6 enemies at level 30. No other reason. Ultimately, I never planned it to have a purpose in the first place, other than to amuse me, the player.

My Shadower. Oh yay. Considered inferior to all warrior classes and lumped with Buccaneers in the "not-really amazing at anything" category. What with Aran on the way, which are hyped to be the new "supreme kings" of melee damage-dealing, there's even less reason to take on levelling a bandit. Why would you do it at all when other classes can outclass you ingame and practically all you'd get out of it is a class that everyone says they admire, but then blanks when it comes to actually recruiting players for boss runs? Once again, remembering the reason I wanted a bandit, it was because I wanted savage blow. No other reason. Once again I only made it to amuse me after school with its 6-hit maelstrom.

Last character of mine, my Corsair. Mathematically one of the hardest hitters in the game. Considered an actual attacker on boss runs (I was actually given the title "attacker" in a scarlion run at only level 128, even though my ship broke every 5 seconds and I was reduced to burst fire for most of the fight; my shadower would never be called an attacker despite have a far higher attack power due to level and decent equips) and lauded by everyone except those who felt they had been made redundant by their superior attacking power. When I made this character though, my motives were different. I made it with the explicit goal to reach level 70, then 120 and beyond not only to see how a ranged character played, but to be accepted more in boss runs. I was fed up of having people go "Ehh...L> REAL ATTACKERS LIKE NL/BM/SAIR" whenever I offered to go on a run with them.

This overwhelming desire to be "useful" on this character I feel has ultimately dampened the overall experience i could have potentially had on this character, and already I just feel like I'm just doing it to please others who will never see me and have no reason to give a damn about me any further than being a means to their end. Why should I let them take advantage of me like that? Just because it's their story doesn't mean I must bend to it, I have my own story as well. Not to say "my story" can't involve other people, but it'd be nice if they didn't just disappear as soon as we'd achieved a goal they wanted to achieve.

Didn't mean this to turn into some sort of blog post, but using yourself as an example, it's sort of hard not to. Also, mistakes. It's 3am and I'm slightly dazed. Just wanted to gather opinions on this, see what everyone felt about the worth of their characters.

TL;DR: I find more worth in characters I enjoy playing, not necessarily those that can contribute the most in party situations or are "the best" at what they were designed to do.
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#2
I have an I/L arch mage too. I made it because I like the I/L skills LIKE Ice Strike. StarMiles was my idol many years ago. I/Ls are useless though. Therefore I did not touch my i/l arch mage for around 4 months. It's still the same % as before.

I made my bishop because I liked clerics. I started my first LUKless character as a cleric therefore I remade it with a better IGN (name changed now) and separate account so I could leech/HS mule. But then later I was intent on getting it to bishop so I could join bosses. But, bishops are so common that nobody wants me anymore. Horntail is already out of the question. People don't even want me at zak anymore lol.

I made my corsair similar to your reason. To be accepted in bosses. At first, I was attacted by the damage on paper. Corsairs are the hardest hitters on battleship. So I bandwagoned. HOWEVER, soon I found out it's not the case. Heroes are the hardest hitting classes in the game due to their funding and speed. My friend can do like 90k total brandishes being around 12 levels higher than me. :3 NOW, I accept my weakness and just play because I already love it to death. <33 Sure I am annoyed by recoil which is slow as hell. My control SUCKS ass too since I leech.





Never bandwagon. New classes like aran fail to impress me. I'll just make an Evan because I love mages.
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#3
The new classes will not replace any older classes. All classes have their pros and cons.
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#4
Even not being the BEST, Corsairs still heavily dish out the damage. You'll almost always be accepted at bosses, you can solo pretty much anything that any other class can, etc. I think I'm going to love it, too. :p

Arans really not that fun. I mean, sure, I didn't get to 3rd job. I only made it to 5x, but the concept was boring to me. It's just like playing any other warrior. Sheesh, that's definitely not as impressive as it looks in videos.
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#5
I think some almost perfect classes like bishops, heroes, BMs or NLs lost their use because everyone creates them so people don't want you @ bosses unless your damage is godly. Just compare bishops to arch mages. The lack of HS is like an arch mage's Achilles' heel

xLeviathan Wrote:Even not being the BEST, Corsairs still heavily dish out the damage. You'll almost always be accepted at bosses, you can solo pretty much anything that any other class can, etc. I think I'm going to love it, too. :p

Arans really not that fun. I mean, sure, I didn't get to 3rd job. I only made it to 5x, but the concept was boring to me. It's just like playing any other warrior. Sheesh, that's definitely not as impressive as it looks in videos.

My friend warned me about Battleship when he was 15x. He said when battleship runs out it is killjoy. Now I truly understand what that meant. When battleship is out a corsair is sh!t. Rapid fire is the worst 4th job attack in the game. It's damage is so grossly low it isn't even funny anymore. The fast attacking speed gets old quick.
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#6
I have an HP Warrior. I think he's pretty useful.

Shut up Mark.
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#7
My damage was never the reason why I got accepted to any Boss Fight.

No matter the class, your true friends will invite you despite how weak your equips/class is Big Grin
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#8
Plague Wrote:The new classes will not replace any older classes. All classes have their pros and cons.

I am aware of this, I just meant general perceptions of shiny new classes by the general maple populace in my examples. Seeing an Evan in action they're too slow for my liking.

@Goals: If you consider your I/L and Bishop to be useless to you, even though you enjoy mages, are they no longer worth your playing time outside of advancing your corsair? I don't see why they wouldn't be if you still enjoyed playing them.
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#9
Beg Wrote:My Shadower. Oh yay. Considered inferior to all warrior classes and lumped with Buccaneers in the "not-really amazing at anything" category.

Sir, I think you just insulted two of the best classes in Maplestory.
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#10
Beg Wrote:My Shadower. Oh yay. Considered inferior to all warrior classes and lumped with Buccaneers in the "not-really amazing at anything" category.

Wat?

Taking down bosses without a single scratch isn't amazing?
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#11
Oh no LOL. My I/L and bishop are NOT useless to me. I LOVE ALL magicians to death. However, most people think they're useless hence I'm never invited to ANY bosses at all on my arch mage or bishop. Not even a cwpq run. Perhaps I'm finding the wrong friends. I totally have fun on both my mages. Butttt, I only go on my bishop so it can leech my corsair. I have nothing to do on my arch mage since I don't get invited to bosses. >___>
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#12
Mark Wrote:Wat?

Taking down bosses without a single scratch isn't amazing?
Mano isn't a boss bro.
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#13
Technically he is.
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#14
This is just what I gathered to be the popular opinion of the general maple player base, not necessarily what was actually the case. As stated my shadower is still one of the characters I actually enjoy playing.
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#15
Mark Wrote:Technically he is.
In that case, my HP Warrior can also take down bosses without a single scratch. Guess you're on the same tier as me.
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#16
P.S. I know what you mean about your shadower. My arch mage can do nearly 40k with Chain Lightning on neutral monsters. I don't think that's really that weak. Throw in Ifrit and that's decent DPS. I mean I could at least plow down zakum's arms doing 100-120k per blizzard. I feel so underappreciated T__T. I think with my equips I consider my arch mage an attacking class. Too bad nobody wants CL to mess up the mobs and blizzard to lag up people's MS at zakum. F444
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#17
Maybe the problem is your expectations... I don't expect my Paladin to be good at killing any bosses, it's not but that's not even why I play it. I still go to boss fights sometimes but I don't go for the dps or anything.
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#18
Bacon Wrote:In that case, my HP Warrior can also take down bosses without a single scratch. Guess you're on the same tier as me.

Bigfoot?

Didn't think so.
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#19
Mark Wrote:Bigfoot?

Didn't think so.
People pay me to get experience from Bigfoot.

You?
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#20
I've gotten requests from n00bs to sell them Bigfoot leech.

Your move.
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