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Is a Low-STR Blood Corsair viable?
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By Blood Corsair I mean adding 1 HP each level from 1 to 200, not all AP from 130 to 140. I'd end up losing 150 extra DEX if I do +1 each level compared to the Blood Master build, but I calculated (probably wrong) that I'd have at least 5180 HP at 120 without HB and at least 8380 HP at 200, without washing (which I can't afford to do anyway). I'll probably cap my STR at 50 and use a zhelm and HT to get to 90. So my questions are:

1. Would the loss of DEX make the massive HP boost not worth it?

2. Would it be better to use a MoN than an HT and just use an Abyss Shooter (or Infinity's Wrath if I scroll my overall for STR)?

3. With HB at 120, I should have 8.2k HP. What bosses would I be safe at?
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Sinnuendo Wrote:By Blood Corsair I mean adding 1 HP each level from 1 to 200, not all AP from 130 to 140. I'd end up losing 150 extra DEX if I do +1 each level compared to the Blood Master build, but I calculated (probably wrong) that I'd have at least 5180 HP at 120 without HB and at least 8380 HP at 200, without washing (which I can't afford to do anyway). I'll probably cap my STR at 50 and use a zhelm and HT to get to 90. So my questions are:

1. Would the loss of DEX make the massive HP boost not worth it?

2. Would it be better to use a MoN than an HT and just use an Abyss Shooter (or Infinity's Wrath if I scroll my overall for STR)?

3. With HB at 120, I should have 8.2k HP. What bosses would I be safe at?

1. That is up to you, doing this plan will greatly affect your damage in my opinion, but some dont mind taking 2 extra hits to kill a monster

2. Ummmm, I would have to say a MoN because it will increase your damage and add a nice HP boost

3. You would be safe at most bosses if you have HB, but the question is whether or not your DPS would be worthwhile enough to make you a vaible option to run.
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Sinnuendo Wrote:By Blood Corsair I mean adding 1 HP each level from 1 to 200, not all AP from 130 to 140. I'd end up losing 150 extra DEX if I do +1 each level compared to the Blood Master build, but I calculated (probably wrong) that I'd have at least 5180 HP at 120 without HB and at least 8380 HP at 200, without washing (which I can't afford to do anyway). I'll probably cap my STR at 50 and use a zhelm and HT to get to 90. So my questions are:

1. Would the loss of DEX make the massive HP boost not worth it?

2. Would it be better to use a MoN than an HT and just use an Abyss Shooter (or Infinity's Wrath if I scroll my overall for STR)?

3. With HB at 120, I should have 8.2k HP. What bosses would I be safe at?

1. 200 dex is a HUGE loss of DEX. Most people who blood only do ~10 levels of it. You're going to look like you're wearing clean gear, even with godly stuff on.

2. With so little dex, your dex:att ratio will be really low. It will probably make more sense to be strless. And no, use a MoN.

3. Pretty much everything.
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#4
It isn't necessary to be a bloodsair. If you really want more HP, put at max 20-30 points.
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#5
It depends... Are you a damage hoar?
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#6
kingdj333 Wrote:It depends... Are you a damage hoar?

What kind of question is that?

Anyone who considers a blood build clearly doesn't give a f'uck.
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Takebacker Wrote:What kind of question is that?

Anyone who considers a blood build clearly doesn't give a f'uck.

Well he's clearly asking if that'll dent his damage. If he didn't care he wouldn't of asked... Don'tcha think? :f6:
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kingdj333 Wrote:Well he's clearly asking if that'll dent his damage. If he didn't care he wouldn't of asked... Don'tcha think? :f6:

No, he's asking if the loss of damage will make the HP not worth it. There's a huge difference between asking how much it'll dent his damage and if the damage loss makes the HP gain not worth it.
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Takebacker Wrote:What kind of question is that?

Anyone who considers a blood build clearly doesn't give a f'uck.

Not really... adding AP to hp just means 3100nx > 18hp (to an extent) > 1 dex. It's better to add straight to hp if your stuff is cheap enough so that can upgrade your stuff by at least 1 primary stat's worth for under 3100nx's worth, otherwise it's better to hp wash, both under the condition that you feel that the hp is needed.
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#10
im bloodwashing 6 levels, someone told me thats good enuff to early horntail around 158 and PB at 200. can anyone confirm this? and why bloodwash THAT MUCH? why get that much extra hp?
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Cyanne Wrote:Not really... adding AP to hp just means 3100nx > 18hp (to an extent) > 1 dex. It's better to add straight to hp if your stuff is cheap enough so that can upgrade your stuff by at least 1 primary stat's worth for under 3100nx's worth, otherwise it's better to hp wash, both under the condition that you feel that the hp is needed.

He isn't going to wash any of the points out though.
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#12
I know, that's the point o_o
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#13
Takebacker Wrote:He isn't going to wash any of the points out though.

Well if I can get into merching enough to convert some mesos to NX I might eventually wash some out of MP into DEX, but otherwise, I won't.

@ Reflexx: Really just to be able to boss much, much earlier than other Corsairs. I can see a loss of ~180 acc being a problem though (not to mention, of course, the massive damage loss). It might not be the best tradeoff in the world, but meh.
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Reflexx Wrote:im bloodwashing 6 levels, someone told me thats good enuff to early horntail around 158 and PB at 200. can anyone confirm this? and why bloodwash THAT MUCH? why get that much extra hp?

I washed 27 points, so yeah, about 6 levels of washing. And I'm 158 and I could have started PBing at 150. Also, make your own equipment in maker and slap an advanced topaz onto it. In comparison to the NX:meso ratio to wash out the same amount of HP, I'm sure an advanced topaz would be cheaper.

EDIT: Forgot KMS doesn't have MoNs. @_@ So yeah that extra 300 HP helps a lot. But getting a scrolled Horus Pendant thing can help, since its 270 HP (Doesn't it?)
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#15
The difference between MoN and HTP is negligible. One has 300hp, the other has 250def, which turns out, blocks about 300 damage.

I'd just use MoN though, because it's much stronger than HTP with the +10-12 attack.
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Zenkat Wrote:The difference between MoN and HTP is negligible. One has 300hp, the other has 250def, which turns out, blocks about 300 damage.

I'd just use MoN though, because it's much stronger than HTP with the +10-12 attack.
300*1.6=480. MoN wins.
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#17
1. This is kind of a "dumb" idea, if your lowering your dex to raise HP just so you can boss you will be much weaker than other people(and classes) which kinda defeats the purpose of going blood anyways..... i was never for people going blood to any extent cause i really feel that the loss in damage in any instance is not worth it, say your 120 and you have blood washed a bunch of lvls and you CAN HT... do you really think any HT run will want a 120 corsair with low damage? And your also forgetting about the Def vs. Level formula(higher monster lvl is than yours = you do less damage (regardless of range) a 120 would do epiclly low damage to HT and lowered Dex would not be helpping... if you did want to HT slightly earlier 150 or so... then set up your bloodening for that.. (if your sure you can get a pt 100%) cause whats the point in being weak for like.. 30 lvls if your not evn going to be fighting HT sept maybe once...
2. MoN ftw, cheaper to get and easier Tongue and not to mention Abyss shooters are rather hard to come by (i was only able to explode 3 of them during those 8-10 lvls vs like 15 wraths since theyre hard to find, same with the peacemaker) i truely believe that all corsairs should shoot for a total str of 100 because the concerto kicks some serious ass and is rly easy to Maker
3. you would be able to survive... all of the major bosses sept PB Tengu(black crow) Big Foot.. as for survivable ones..the cwkpq bosses Zak pap Pianus HT thats prety much it for big ones i guess... Zak is like a push over.... Pap lookin @ like 5.3K ish from 2nd body highest ive seen Pianus ~ 4.8K HT i HEAR you need ~ 4.9K so i believe your 5.1K would be perfect to surpass this lol but ive seen
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Zenkat Wrote:The difference between MoN and HTP is negligible. One has 300hp, the other has 250def, which turns out, blocks about 300 damage.

I'd just use MoN though, because it's much stronger than HTP with the +10-12 attack.


But HB doesn't multiply DEF Tongue

Anyway, you're far better off maker'ing/ scrolling yourself some HP equips than doing this. That way you'll only have the damage loss at bosses, not all the time. And you honestly don't need the HP as much as a NL or a BM will, since we already get a fair it more than them.
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