Dark knight: Am I failing or what!?

Okay as everyone has seen my posts in the warrior discussion thread of chaotic mess of mush with a pretty solid question somewhere in there, but it seems I'm either given to much credit to the dark knight or I really suck being one. I put my guess as suck at being one.

My original class was a shadower, I'm skittish still of big numbers bosses throw at me. I have 19 berzerk and I'm pretty well funded, I won't be investing 300 mil into the 30 book though and will train to earn that book at ht. Having said that at 130 I'll have 20 zerk and start adding into stance or Maple warrior..probably stance considering I train with other players who have maple warrior.

Anyway I'm rambling, the thing is I'm finding it extremely difficult to train with zerk. At 39% of my hp (specifically 4.9k) I would have thought it would have been a hella lot easier. To my dismay it's not. I've desperatly tried skelegoning, even with zerk I don't think I can two hit 100% of the time, and with a 4.9k zerk trigger..if I get touched I'm in deathzone of one skelegon blast.

I dunno is this frustration normal or am I still too low to be training there. If it helps my range is like 2.5k-5.8k, at 129. I haven't really compared it or met enough drk's to actually know if this is an average or decent range. If skelegons are to strong for me with my zerk trigger whats my alternatives? I mean do any dark knights have the same thoughts as this or am I just a noob :f6:
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Yes I'm hybrid xD

[COLOR="Red"]Zerk30 would help tremendously. Every Dark Knight goes through these problems...Zerk30 now triggers at 50% HP, which is a hell of a lot more than whatever 19 is at, and worth 300mil in my opinion.

Don't take it from me though, I failed Zerk30 3 times when it was 550mil+. [/COLOR]

[COLOR="Red"]Zerk30 would help tremendously. Every Dark Knight goes through these problems...Zerk30 now triggers at 50% HP, which is a hell of a lot more than whatever 19 is at, and worth 300mil in my opinion.

Don't take it from me though, I failed Zerk30 3 times when it was 550mil+. [/COLOR]

..Unfortunatly I don't have that kind of money to be blowing up I might if chaos scrolls inflate after that patch though

Thanks for the advice though..

Yeah its like that since you only have Zerk 20,once you get Zerk 30 and level a bit it gets easier

..Unfortunatly I don't have that kind of money to be blowing up I might if chaos scrolls inflate after that patch though

Thanks for the advice though..

If you could 2-hit with Zerk, that'd make it easier even with 19. That'd help you avoid getting hit and you wouldn't be in the danger zone so often. Maybe upgrade your gear a little bit to 2-hit, then go for zerk30.

Yeah...having only zerk20 sucks. Hard. Especially when you see every other warrior class having a much easier time, with a much smaller book cost. I was lucky in that I had a bishop willing to train with me during my times with zerk20, it wasn't too hard, but I could never 2hit with max mw and 20 (didn't help that my gear sucked too )There's nothing else you can really do now except train or quit.

Good luck passing it!

If you could 2-hit with Zerk, that'd make it easier even with 19. That'd help you avoid getting hit and you wouldn't be in the danger zone so often. Maybe upgrade your gear a little bit to 2-hit, then go for zerk30.

Well the problem is the only things that I could upgrade that would be at all..at large magnitude is my top. 16 str for 15 mil was too good to pass up xD.

My gloves are 16 att, 4 dex 2 att facestompers, 120 attack skiis..mon pendent, 8att pink cape..I mean I guess I could buy a higher attack spear, or try to forge one..but the speed would make it even harder to avoid skele attacks wouldn't it?

And with 500mil (900 with 4 chaos scrolls) I really don't think I can upgrade anything xD

imagine how much harder itd be if we didnt have skill updates and you only had 29% threshold... all the people who were stuck w/ zerk 20 @ 30% thought a 40% threshold was REALLY EASY when gms finally started beating up horntail

Well the problem is the only things that I could upgrade that would be at all..at large magnitude is my top. 16 str for 15 mil was too good to pass up xD.

My gloves are 16 att, 4 dex 2 att facestompers, 120 attack skiis..mon pendent, 8att pink cape..I mean I guess I could buy a higher attack spear, or try to forge one..but the speed would make it even harder to avoid skele attacks wouldn't it?

And with 500mil (900 with 4 chaos scrolls) I really don't think I can upgrade anything xD

[COLOR="Red"]I never found avoiding with 2-hits hard with a Pinaka. o.O

Naice deal on the top. You could probably blow one of your Chaoses on the FS and do well, assuming it has any slots left.

I remember getting 50% Zerk finally, I'm like...ZOMG THIS IS EZ. Lulz. 13k Zerk threshhold ftw.[/COLOR]

imagine how much harder itd be if we didnt have skill updates and you only had 29% threshold... all the people who were stuck w/ zerk 20 @ 30% thought a 40% threshold was REALLY EASY when gms finally started beating up horntail

Ey its so hard now but I guess my best alternative is switch to a new spear until I can two hit with my skiis, which would be if i got like 10 more str.

With that kind of funds with the high atk PAC and such, I would just recomend buying zerk 30

With that kind of funds with the high atk PAC and such, I would just recomend buying zerk 30

Yeah but I don't have that kind of funding now because my scrolling luck is been a tad off.

(I mass scrolled PAC's and ended up with 3 8atts with 8 chaos scrolsl when they were 150mil each lol)

Don't worry, no Drk can fail more than me.

Don't worry, no Drk can fail more than me.

I died trying to zerk at wolf spiders. Then again I had my pots on a different key by accident..

./fail.

Just wanted t point out that 4.9k hp is a lot more than most ranged chars have at skeles, so don't dispair just lv and perhaps hp wash.

About getting serk 30, I hope you have friends that will take you. At 13x and even before 15x you will be nothing more than a glorified hb mule.

Just wanted t point out that 4.9k hp is a lot more than most ranged chars have at skeles, so don't dispair just lv and perhaps hp wash.

About getting serk 30, I hope you have friends that will take you. At 13x and even before 15x you will be nothing more than a glorified hb mule.

I'm aware what I was implying was to keep zerk 20 and max something else until about 145 where I'll look for an ht group.

I find Hp washing dumb for me because by the time I break 1k hp+ from the washing I could already start hting for zerk. I mean to get the benefits of max zerk without maxing it would be like 2k extra hp? That's 10 levels of ap (roughly) by then ill be 139 lol

Thanks for the advice though

Hp washing as a dk is actually worth it. You need as much hp as you can get, not only for training but also bossing, you could eventually zerk at bf if you wanted, and 15k hp does sound awesome to me.

Also I wonder what is the acc needed to hit all parts at 145, and let's not even take into account the 15 lvs of dmg reduction.

Hp washing as a dk is actually worth it. You need as much hp as you can get, not only for training but also bossing, you could eventually zerk at bf if you wanted, and 15k hp does sound awesome to me.

Also I wonder what is the acc needed to hit all parts at 145, and let's not even take into account the 15 lvs of dmg reduction.

I have friends who said to request joining at 145, thats my source anyway. I don't have the time or money to just mts merchant, or buy such resets. It take around 160$ worth of ap resets or something higher than that lol. When you're in 4th as you know, your ap is your constant bonus. If I put 80 points of str into hp, that's a huge damage reduction, and 16 levels of no damage increase. I'm having trouble 2 hitting skeles as is ya know? And all dark's i know actually bf leech with zerk already even with the risk of 1h ko (If you even think its not pinned pot immediatly).

In the long run I don't think either decisions would be good, and my best solution is to suck it up until I can 100% two hit skeles, a good 3-4 more levels I believe.

Just wanted t point out that 4.9k hp is a lot more than most ranged chars have at skeles

Irrelevant comparison is irrelevant. I seriously have heard more than enough of ranged people ranting about their fragility.
Also, being a Dk at HT pretty much is all about an upgraded Hbmule. That much is universal.

When I started out Zerking (around lvl125 with original Zerk skilltables), I died 20 times a day at Wolf Spiders, but I fail so let's skip that. Your problem here is Zerk lvl, get it to 30 and you'll be good to go, your dmg range is fine.

 Spoiler

The point is you don't need more than 7k~8k HP for Zerk. Of course you can't zerk HT or Tengu or Anego (no one can tank her anyway) but you're not missing out on any more fun. Besides, fun is where the challenge is.

As for Oblivion (Time Piece hunting), you might want to consider some more HP for room 3/4, as for 1/2, you can zerk slowly but safely with some strategic fighting.

It's better that you max Berserk, grind to 14x or higher and start joining HT for whatever other reason. No one would want a 12x hbmule that very likely could die in 2 magic attacks. Then again, joining HT is all about connections..
EDIT: Maybe borrow some money to get zerk30, grind to appropriate lvl and HT, pay back with your payment. Expecting to upgrade your Zerk30 through HT runs is not very... realistic.
Again, it relies on your connections with HT hosts.

Irrelevant comparison is irrelevant. I seriously have heard more than enough of ranged people ranting about their fragility.
Also, being a Dk at HT pretty much is all about an upgraded Hbmule. That much is universal.

When I started out Zerking (around lvl125 with original Zerk skilltables), I died 20 times a day at Wolf Spiders, but I fail so let's skip that. Your problem here is Zerk lvl, get it to 30 and you'll be good to go, your dmg range is fine.

 Spoiler

The point is you don't need more than 7k~8k HP for Zerk. Of course you can't zerk HT or Tengu or Anego (no one can tank her anyway) but you're not missing out on any more fun. Besides, fun is where the challenge is.

As for Oblivion (Time Piece hunting), you might want to consider some more HP for room 3/4, as for 1/2, you can zerk slowly but safely with some strategic fighting.

It's better that you max Berserk, grind to 14x or higher and start joining HT for whatever other reason. No one would want a 12x hbmule that very likely could die in 2 magic attacks. Then again, joining HT is all about connections..
EDIT: Maybe borrow some money to get zerk30, grind to appropriate lvl and HT, pay back with your payment. Expecting to upgrade your Zerk30 through HT runs is not very... realistic.
Again, it relies on your connections with HT hosts.

Ey I see what you mean, mind telling me what HP I should be holding to zerk at time temple?