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Bill Nye On Creationism
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http://bigthink.com/think-tank/bill-nye-...-hes-viral

Still alive, and now with 100% more opinions.

Bill Nye Wrote:"I say to the grownups, if you want to deny evolution and live in your world, in your world that's completely inconsistent with everything we observe in the universe, that's fine, but don't make your kids do it because we need them. We need scientifically literate voters and taxpayers for the future. We need people that can—we need engineers that can build stuff, solve problems."
It's not having what you want - It's wanting what you've got.
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I actually know some Creationists who do have a slightly different opinion. Creationism, which then led to evolution. It's not a bad compromise.

I think evolution is pretty undeniable at this point. I mean, I'd consider even the way humans change "evolution". Then when you consider all the millions of plant and animal life, and all the variations in such, it just seems like evolution and adaptation must have had some role in all that.
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I absolutely reading about Nye's opinion, not only for nostalgia factor but this guys is just so freakin' charismatic.

I still can't get over the people of Waco, Texas and how absurd that walk out was.
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Aircalibur421 Wrote:I actually know some Creationists who do have a slightly different opinion. Creationism, which then led to evolution. It's not a bad compromise.

Wouldn't that be the distinction between Creationism and Intelligent Design?
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Aircalibur421 Wrote:I actually know some Creationists who do have a slightly different opinion. Creationism, which then led to evolution. It's not a bad compromise.

Sounds more like the "I don't want to offend anyone" way out of it.

I still do wonder where all of this talk him dying came from though... personally I never heard anything about it.
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I dont see any scientific evidence for evolution anywhere at all.
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Eos Wrote:Wouldn't that be the distinction between Creationism and Intelligent Design?

Not... quite. The person in particular I'm talking about is a bit radical.

His take on "Creationism" is so far out there that he'd be hard pressed to find support for it in the ID community.

Most specifically, he doesn't believe in certain things being "too complex" to have evolved a certain way; he has a pretty deep christian background, and he still believes in a supreme being, but he's very rooted in science.
Justin Wrote:Sounds more like the "I don't want to offend anyone" way out of it.
A closer evaluation would be the "I'm going to offend everyone" route.
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Aircalibur421 Wrote:I actually know some Creationists who do have a slightly different opinion. Creationism, which then led to evolution. It's not a bad compromise.

I think evolution is pretty undeniable at this point. I mean, I'd consider even the way humans change "evolution". Then when you consider all the millions of plant and animal life, and all the variations in such, it just seems like evolution and adaptation must have had some role in all that.

I mean it really isn't a bad compromise. Sure it isn't proven by "science", but science can't (yet) disprove that a supreme being created the Big Bang that created the universe and all its wonderful constituents. If i were one to believe in supreme beings, I would try as hard as I could to prove it right simply because that would legitimize my religion by fact.

Also: BILL NYE THE SCIENCE GUY was one of the best TV shows EVER.
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Worthyness Wrote:Also: BILL NYE THE SCIENCE GUY was one of the best TV shows EVER.

This, The Magic Schoolbus, and Gizmos & Gadgets was my childhood.

As far as his sentiments; I agree that we don't need more extremist from the religious point of view, but there has to be a balance to prevent backlash. What needs to be inspired in children is curiosity; rather than being told of absolutes in the strictest sense. Allow them to question for themselves instead of answering them preemptively. That is the essence of science for me anyway. Granted; I'm no parent, but that's my take on things.
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Chameleonic Wrote:I dont see any scientific evidence for evolution anywhere at all.
Please tell me that this was just bad sarcasm.
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#11
I have yet to see him in around here. I've been meaning to get his autograph.
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#12
My thought on Creationism or ID versus evolution comes down to this: Would this supreme being do the easy poof things into existence as is or would it come up with the much more intricate and awesome way Evolution says things came to be?

I feel Evolution gives god a lot more credit to its creativity don't you?
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Also Bill Nye is friggin awesome. Glitter
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Chameleonic Wrote:I dont see any scientific evidence for evolution anywhere at all.

Are you being serious?
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Chameleonic Wrote:I dont see any scientific evidence for evolution anywhere at all.

Me either, how did maplestory evolve from runescape, doesn't make sense
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KhainiWest Wrote:Me either, how did maplestory evolve from runescape, doesn't make sense
Animu graphics? The Weeaboo audience is a goldmine.
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Aircalibur421 Wrote:Animu graphics? The Weeaboo audience is a goldmine.

Show me the missing link between the two.....
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KhainiWest Wrote:Show me the missing link between the two.....

Ragnarok Online.
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Aircalibur421 Wrote:Ragnarok Online.

What about the link between that!
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Chameleonic Wrote:I dont see any scientific evidence for evolution anywhere at all.

Yeah, we totally pulled this one out of our ass. We just made it up so we could have something to credit for our creation. We also worship it and base our morals off of it.

Oh wait..
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KhainiWest Wrote:Me either, how did maplestory evolve from runescape, doesn't make sense

KhainiWest Wrote:Show me the missing link between the two.....

Aircalibur421 Wrote:Ragnarok Online.

Funny. This was my link between the two games; and the only MMO-RPGs I've played.
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