The LoL Patches thread

Arcade Sona will be available for general purchase + PAX (free). Not PAX-only

There has been a uproar these past few days about Arcade Sona (presumably) be available as a PAX-only skin. Glad Riot is doing the right thing.

PAX Jax was an awesome concept, so it probably did warrant the special treatment. PAX Sivir? Not so much. It seems like someone yielded at the negotiation tables this year and allowed fun for more people rather than the select "fortunate" few.

They gave very very minor nerfs to Gragas

Minor nerfs to Gragas? Son, you have no idea what happened do you? They buffed Gragas' fatslam so that it had the fastest speed at all levels instead of only at rank 5. That made him really fast and it also allowed crazy jukes in mid lane. This gave rise to the popularity of Gragas. The nerfs supposedly coming soon will hamper the abuse on fatslam early game.

Minor nerfs to Gragas? Son, you have no idea what happened do you? They buffed Gragas' fatslam so that it had the fastest speed at all levels instead of only at rank 5. That made him really fast and it also allowed crazy jukes in mid lane. This gave rise to the popularity of Gragas. The nerfs supposedly coming soon will hamper the abuse on fatslam early game.

To add on to what you said:

The Gragas Body Slam nerf was also warranted because his roaming was absolutely OP. Combine low mana cost (50 mana) with the now-buffed speed - consistent at all levels - of Body Slam, and you got really fast roaming capabilities at a minimal resource cost. That's pretty much not OK in any scenario.

Patch Previewwwwwwwwwwww

[video=youtube;WPRAcC88POk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPRAcC88POk[/video]

I see they introduced some new guy to talk about the patch previews with the old one. His voice is so annoying.

Lol at corki. "He's just too damn good at EVERYTHING".

Kat's getting late game nerfs

I was expecting the Abyssal Scepter nerf. That item has been used by a lot of AP mids in high ELO + tourney play lately, with very nice results. Mainly because of the huge radius debuff of that item, and thus a lot of AP mids were able to utilize it to great effect.

I'll probably still rush it first on Kat.

Those Evelynn buffs are very, very nice.

Thank the lord for the changes to Corki, Graves and Ezreal. Those 3 dominated bot lane so hard.

Ezreal needs adjustments on his AS debuff on his W though, though the lowered base damage should help.

I think the Graves changes were fair. He's built to be a nuking early game threat but transitioned into a completely faceroll champ with his steroid. Hopefully 10% off his E evens him out a bit.

Corki is just annoying. I hate laning against Corki because he truly is too damn good at everything. I don't think these changes will really hurt him that bad, aside from higher W cooldown. Meh.

Shame that the ADC changes won't actually change which are picked since Ashe and MF (among others) are still shit compared to Corki, Graves, and Ezreal.

Shame that the ADC changes won't actually change which are picked since Ashe and MF (among others) are still shit compared to Corki, Graves, and Ezreal.

Ashe is fine. She just doesn't hit as hard, and her "steroid" utilizes her team, if you know what I mean.

I think MF is pretty strong. She simply isn't being picked because she has no escaping dash/blink like those 3 do.

As a matter of fact you can snowball really well with MF, she is very very strong when paired with a janna.

I think MF is pretty strong. She simply isn't being picked because she has no escaping dash/blink like those 3 do.

Hence why she sucks. It's almost required for a ADC now to have a built-in escape mechanism. Those two, along with Twitch, Varus, and Draven have no escape and therefore stink compared to those big 3. Those ADCs wouldn't be picked even if they hadn't made those changes (except maybe Ashe).

Hence why she sucks. It's almost required for a ADC now to have a built-in escape mechanism. Those two, along with Twitch, Varus, and Draven have no escape and therefore stink compared to those big 3. Those ADCs wouldn't be picked even if they hadn't made those changes (except maybe Ashe).

Now that it's been established that she does not have an escape, what do you expect riot to do for those who have none? I wouldn't want them to give any of those listed an escape, that would require a total rework.
If they have a shot at making non escape carries work in my eyes it would be through
A:Nerfing escape carries to an acceptable power level
B: Nerfing the creeping AoE metagame that is only getting worse as they release more AoE champions. AoE is the main reason you need an escape on a carry during large scale teamfights in order to reposition yourself.

B: Nerfing the creeping AoE metagame that is only getting worse as they release more AoE champions. AoE is the main reason you need an escape on a carry during large scale teamfights in order to reposition yourself.

Gap closers are the stronger culprit imo. I can kite AoEs all day if I wanted to, but people like Irelia and Xin Zhao makes a squishy's life miserable.

If MF could like increase her range like kogmaw then she would be ok as she is.

But she is in a place right now where she can be jumped and blew up with no reactions. Other carries can either dash or speed up. She loses her speed and then she has what.. a 1 second slow? lol.

If MF could like increase her range like kogmaw then she would be ok as she is.

But she is in a place right now where she can be jumped and blew up with no reactions. Other carries can either dash or speed up. She loses her speed and then she has what.. a 1 second slow? lol.

Don't forget that her ult roots her in place.

A fed and farmed MF is scary, however a fed and farmed MF is hard to get to in the current meta. And to top it off, she has next to no poke or utility outside of that lolslow.

It's not the escaping mechanism that makes them OP. Well it's only a small part of it. Otherwise it comes off as rather strange to me why noone is mentioning Tristana or Caitlyn. I really think it's just a shift in peoples taste, seeing as champions like Malphite who were left alone for months were suddenly regarded as OP. I also think Miss Fortune is underrated.

It's not the escaping mechanism that makes them OP. Well it's only a small part of it. Otherwise it comes off as rather strange to me why noone is mentioning Tristana or Caitlyn. I really think it's just a shift in peoples taste, seeing as champions like Malphite who were left alone for months were suddenly regarded as OP. I also think Miss Fortune is underrated.

Miss fortune is somewhat risky as she has to win her lane and snowball. If some of the other ADCs lose their lane, they can come back. If MF loses her lane, she falls off hard.

Caitlyn is sort of the same as she tends to fall off late game.

Just thought I'd mention that for those 3 ADCs [graves, corki, ezreal], their escape mechanisms also act as a gap closer. Some other champs are strictly for escape e.g. caitlyn

The real reason why they are considered really strong: a combination of escapability and burst to win the early game and come out on top. Why aren't Tristana and Caitlyn in consideration? Caitlyn doesn't really have the burst levels the ADC trinity have (and somewhat poor late game), and Tristana's escape is for one or the other purpose (and it has a bad delay too).

Ezreal and, to a less extent, Graves don't have as much carry potential as some other ADCs. But that doesn't stop them from facerolling people late game.