2012-07-21, 01:29 AM
I main support and I don't see orianna as a typical support. She's really low on usefulness as one. Keep her at AP mid where she belongs.
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AD carry + Support Synergy
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2012-07-21, 01:36 AM
Doesn't a website have information similar to this? I know for sure that it displays win rate percentages, but it doesn't explain why it works.
Karma has an absurdly high win rate in lane last I saw this stuff. That does not necessarily mean she's viable though, since it could be a bunch of low elo players supplying those stats. EDIT: http://www.lolking.net/charts?region=all...ne-synergy  
2012-07-21, 01:47 AM
Karma has an absurdly high win rate because there are no bad Karma players, they're either really good or they don't play her at all. Also, I'm not sure what the criteria is for being listed there so some of them might be mid Karmas.
2012-07-21, 04:57 AM
I'd say Soraka goes with MF and Vayne.
MF doesn't have the cheapest mana costs as well as gets harrassed easier by having no escape. Vayne just because she could use the sustain to actually get further into the game. Cait + Sona is a good poke lane. Also, i like Support Lux but unsure what she'd be best with. I've had success with Ashe and Vayne, probably because you can set up both for a hard cc chain, along with a Lux full combo burst. 
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2012-07-21, 01:25 PM
If you pair Leona with Ashe there's almost no chance a target gets away even with Flash because of Ashe's ult and Q.
2012-07-21, 02:12 PM
Derosis Wrote:Soraka:You forgot about melee AD carries like Yi and Fiora.
2012-07-21, 03:08 PM
Raph589 Wrote:You forgot about melee AD carries like Yi and Fiora. Neither of those go bot.
2012-07-21, 04:46 PM
Rayquaza2233 Wrote:If you pair Leona with Ashe there's almost no chance a target gets away even with Flash because of Ashe's ult and Q. It's why I put her with the okay list. Ashe is still kind of a high skill cap champion. Not sure if you were directing to op or me, so I just quoted based off my experiences. 
2012-07-21, 07:05 PM
Raul Wrote:Derosis you left Cait off. I don't like Cait, but fine ill edit my list.
2012-07-21, 07:06 PM
Derosis Wrote:It's why I put her with the okay list. Ashe is still kind of a high skill cap champion. I'm directing it at you. The reasoning you provided had nothing to do with the skill level of the Ashe player, you said Ashe doesn't "have enough burst"
2012-07-21, 07:30 PM
Rayquaza2233 Wrote:I'm directing it at you. The reasoning you provided had nothing to do with the skill level of the Ashe player, you said Ashe doesn't "have enough burst" From Lv 1~6 her burst isn't enough. As in her Ult + E as burst damage. But later on that W in Mid game (Lv 9~13, if she does get farmed and 1/2 kills) does well, but it falls off late game as her only attribution to the team is vision, global ulting, slows and amazing DPS. No real burst after that. Example: Graves Q does amazing Burst Damage, Corki's Ult does amazing burst damage, Tristana has amazing burst damage with her W + E combo, Vayne does a literal sh'it on people if she gets fed with true damage. 
2012-07-21, 07:36 PM
Derosis Wrote:From Lv 1~6 her burst isn't enough. As in her Ult + E as burst damage. But later on that W in Mid game (Lv 9~13, if she does get farmed and 1/2 kills) does well, but it falls off late game as her only attribution to the team is vision, global ulting, slows and amazing DPS. No real burst after that. WOT THIS IS DUM GRAVES WILL NEVER Q FOR BURST UNLESS HE STANDING IN MELEE RANGE CORKI'S ULT IS GOOD FOR PROCING TRINITY AND POKE, NOT BURST TRIST ISN'T GOING TO USE SKILLS LATE GAME OTHER THAN Q FOR DAMAGE VAYNE IS VAYNE ASHE PRETTY GREAT SCALING, HER DAMAGE IS SKYHIGH WITH VOLLEY, ONLY LIMITED BY MANA HOWEVER, ASHE + LEONA IS A pomegranate LANE
2012-07-21, 07:38 PM
Aynia Wrote:WOT I'm going to smack you with a hot skillet if you type like that again. Response: 1. Golden rule in League: Target the AD carry. When getting closed in Graves is one of the best at getting the f'uck out. W + Q combo with E dash for escape or chase. Too strong and very bursty. 2. Nigga you high? 3. Nigga you high? 4. Well, duh?
2012-07-21, 07:40 PM
Derosis Wrote:From Lv 1~6 her burst isn't enough. As in her Ult + E as burst damage. But later on that W in Mid game (Lv 9~13, if she does get farmed and 1/2 kills) does well, but it falls off late game as her only attribution to the team is vision, global ulting, slows and amazing DPS. No real burst after that. You gave two very different reasons for Ashe/Leona only being "ok". Pick one. Aynia Wrote:WOT so you know he'll q for burst when he's qing for burst
2012-07-21, 07:42 PM
Rayquaza2233 Wrote:You gave two very different reasons for Ashe/Leona only being "ok". Pick one. NOT REALLY IT AIN'T THAT BURSTY UNLESS YOU'RE STANDING ROUGHLY HALF A TEEMO AWAY FROM HIM IN WHICH CASE, THERE ARE MORE PRESSING QUESTIONS
2012-07-21, 07:43 PM
Aynia Wrote:NOT REALLY Quickdraw -> Buckshot -> Collateral Damage -> Ignite Like I said, he'll Q for burst when he's Qing for burst.
2012-07-21, 07:44 PM
Rayquaza2233 Wrote:Quickdraw -> Buckshot -> Collateral Damage -> Ignite SO YOU GET HIT FOR 2 OUT OF 3 Q'S AT BEST ALSO IF SORAKA HEALS YOU ANYWHERE BEFORE YOU GET ULTED, YOU LIVE AND LAUGH OR IF YOU JOOK DA ULT I LOVE IT WHEN I JOOK ULTS ONLY TIME I SEE GRAVES HIT ALL 3 BUCKSHOTS IS WHEN HE'S TOP LANE AGAINST MELEE
2012-07-21, 08:56 PM
Aynia Wrote:SO YOU GET HIT FOR 2 OUT OF 3 Q'S AT BEST Rayquaza2233 Wrote:Quickdraw -> Buckshot -> Collateral Damage -> Ignite |
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