Am I the only one who tries to play as "legit" as possible?

I don't care how you play as long as two requirments are made;

1) You're honest about it. I hate it when obvious hackers try to pretend like they accomplished everything through in game means. Then again, most people brag that they hack in order to get some reputation so that probably no longer applies.

2) You don't affect my gameplay. Seriously, I play when I want to play, not when you want me to play.

I stopped fighting the game and left. The actual company/auto ban system was more damaging than the actual hackers. Sad really

• I used to train on glitched/hacked LHC maps, whatever you'd like to call them. The majority of my levels from 14x, perhaps higher, not quite clear, to 17x were gained in glitched LHC maps. Since then, I've told myself that I would not train in glitched maps. I'm still conflicted over whether or not I should sell leech in them when I hit 200 though.
  
• I have sold and bought NX before.
  
• I have purchased decent skill service and glitched door when I cubed it on my czhelm.
  
• I have bought Mastery Books and Mystery Mastery Books that were almost certainly botted.
  
• I have bought scrolls that were almost certainly botted.
  
• Most of my equips are self-made and self-cubed, excluding my Dragon Khanjar which was bought from MTS a couple years back. I got an HTP off of a friend who quit, cubed it to 18% INT, and traded it off for a 15% LUK HTP. I used PoTs that were probably botted to make my Reverse Pescas, although I've never used GM scrolls. I've used one white scroll.
  
• I've never used any hacks.
  
• I don't use any of the massively duped VSS/masks/earrings/whatever and never have.
  

Not sure what else to say. In my own mind, I play legitimately.

1) You're honest about it. I hate it when obvious hackers try to pretend like they accomplished everything through in game means. Then again, most people brag that they hack in order to get some reputation so that probably no longer applies.

I really like this point. I'd much rather you'd at least admit you use duped/hacked gear or hack yourself than pretend that you don't. Especially if it's well-known that you do.

I really like this point. I'd much rather you'd at least admit you use duped/hacked gear or hack yourself than pretend that you don't. Especially if it's well-known that you do.

The biggest problem with this though is, for example, my character has duped gear yet I still call it a legit character because under my definition of legit, I say it's legit. Not everyone has my same definition so then they say "No you're not legit." Therefore, not legit = hacker, which is not the case. Then some people throw the term "illegit" and I hate that word because it has an even bigger gray area than "people's definition of legit"

I think that's where most arguments stem from when people have differing definitions on the term "legit" and when you're called "not legit" most people take offense to it as they'll think you believe they hack.

The biggest problem with this though is, for example, my character has duped gear yet I still call it a legit character because under my definition of legit, I say it's legit. Not everyone has my same definition so then they say "No you're not legit." Therefore, not legit = hacker, which is not the case. Then some people throw the term "illegit" and I hate that word because it has an even bigger gray area than "people's definition of legit"

I think that's where most arguments stem from when people have differing definitions on the term "legit" and when you're called "not legit" most people take offense to it as they'll think you believe they hack.

There is no different definitions, Legit is clearly defined, period. You can avoid nearly everything besides scrolls/mesos, people choose to do it because the general community allows them too, because most of them are in fact cheaters.

Though irrelevent to the point, it's extremely obnoxious for someone to brag about range when all they did was merchant duplicated equipment or do it themselves. That's not an accomplishment, it's exploiting a situation.

Not a very good poll, as people have their own definitions of "legit". i.e. many people consider it legit to train on a glitched LHC map. A person can be a blatant hacker and still manage to justify their behavior in their own mind to the point of believing they are "legit".

Not a very good poll, as people have their own definitions of "legit". i.e. many people consider it legit to train on a glitched LHC map. A person can be a blatant hacker and still manage to justify their behavior in their own mind to the point of believing they are "legit".

In this case is not as grey as people want to show, the grey area is on how much people care, legitimacy is defined by authority and in this case the authority is nexon ToS, statements and ban guide, if you don't follow those rules then you're not a legit player, if you care or not about that that's another thing and is more of a moral/ethical issue than legitimacy.

Non of your choices suits me.
That being said, hackers pervade every aspect of maplestory. Whether you are buying scrolls at a low price or at a high price or purchasing a godly empress item or godly items either way you are supporting them still somehow.
There is really no way around it.
No one is "truely" legit.
In the discussion of a 38 att VSS whether or not its legit. It can be simply said in the arguement of "hey I really made at 38 attack VSS w/o duped scrolls or hacking!!" VS. "I totally duped scrolls and i used it to make a VSS"
Can you really blame the legit person for legitimately making it?
The line between hacking and non hacking in maplestory is a thin one. The only major difference between both groups is when one decides to crash servers and dupe or bot all day (ex. LHC BaM/Evan full map killing while selling leech)

Nonsense. I simply don't buy any of that. The last time I bought an equip was six years ago, and it was lv4x at that. The only thing I've bought since then was a mineral bag -- which AFAIK nobody cares enough about to dupe. I can't afford "godly items" and don't plan on buying scrolls. Even the items that I occasionally sell aren't good enough that people with access to hacks would give them a second glance.

In this case is not as grey as people want to show, the grey area is on how much people care, legitimacy is defined by authority and in this case the authority is nexon ToS, statements and ban guide, if you don't follow those rules then you're not a legit player, if you care or not about that that's another thing and is more of a moral/ethical issue than legitimacy.

Thank you new person

I play to have fun not for damage. The only reason I made a Paladin and Buccaneer is to have fun. I had leeched once back when mages could spam their ulties and it felt awful, after that I never leeched. I play my way and don't listen to everyone saying go to LHC, go to Aliens. I enjoy training at different mobs and most mobs are equal in terms of exp so I rather have fun then train at 1 place for 40 levels.

There is no different definitions, Legit is clearly defined, period. You can avoid nearly everything besides scrolls/mesos, people choose to do it because the general community allows them too, because most of them are in fact cheaters.

Though irrelevent to the point, it's extremely obnoxious for someone to brag about range when all they did was merchant duplicated equipment or do it themselves. That's not an accomplishment, it's exploiting a situation.

Then what would you call people that don't hack then but then aren't "legit" where that definition is 100% clean.

If the word of choice is "illegit" then there's a billion definitions for that.

Then what would you call people that don't hack then but then aren't "legit" where that definition is 100% clean.

If the word of choice is "illegit" then there's a billion definitions for that.

By the dictionary definition and my definition, if you play with illegit items, merchant them, or take any part in supporting through participation, makes you illegit. If you want to argue your personal opinion, I won't bother, however my personal opinion is justified.

Hmm....

Sold nx to people, bought decent skills, trained alt characters at hacked maps (just the alt, not my main) and I'm not sure the scrolls I used on my equips were duped or not. Never used duped gear, hacked nor bot of any sort.

Overall: I'm guessing I'm above the 90% legitimacy chart which makes me legit.

I finally gave in to training on boosted maps, because frankly LHC is horrid otherwise. Acquiring the etc drops of 3 lhc mobs before we can get to bearwolves is an absurd idea and should have never been implemented.

In this case is not as grey as people want to show, the grey area is on how much people care, legitimacy is defined by authority and in this case the authority is nexon ToS, statements and ban guide, if you don't follow those rules then you're not a legit player, if you care or not about that that's another thing and is more of a moral/ethical issue than legitimacy.

Yes, but it skews the poll. As unlegit people will be like "Oh I'm legit" and vote accordingly.

Then what would you call people that don't hack then but then aren't "legit" where that definition is 100% clean.

If the word of choice is "illegit" then there's a billion definitions for that.

I think there should be a new term for these types of breed.. Or at least some sort of ranking of illegit behavior.

I think there should be a new term for these types of breed.. Or at least some sort of ranking of illegit behavior.

You do that and you'll have people argue over the internet for months. From the outside perspective, we'll look like fucking idiots.

That's why I play to have fun and not care unless it's something detrimental (people server crashing making it unplayable/people releasing exploits to hack others). I always remind myself of my friend who introduced me to maple. She doesn't play that often, maybe 1-2 weeks out of the year now. She usually hovers around level 30-50 or something. But she has fun and doesn't have any maple drama at all. If I ever tell her about maple drama, she gives me a weird look and wonders why I even bother.

You do that and you'll have people argue over the internet for months. From the outside perspective, we'll look like fucking idiots.

That's why I play to have fun and not care unless it's something detrimental (people server crashing making it unplayable/people releasing exploits to hack others). I always remind myself of my friend who introduced me to maple. She doesn't play that often, maybe 1-2 weeks out of the year now. She usually hovers around level 30-50 or something. But she has fun and doesn't have any maple drama at all. If I ever tell her about maple drama, she gives me a weird look and wonders why I even bother.

Then it's either argue for months or simply say everyone is not legit because at this point you and everyone else is. Since you don't care either way why are you even posting in this thread again?

Then it's either argue for months or simply say everyone is not legit because at this point you and everyone else is. Since you don't care either way why are you even posting in this thread again?

I didn't know not caring about 1 thing meant I can't care about anything. I am voicing my opinion on how I see the "legit talk." Maybe some people would see what I say and go "Hmm, yea why am i wasting my time arguing over something like this, it's silly."

That's how I feel about it. If I'm having fun, that's the goal. I am not causing anyone else distress by having fun either so I don't see why people I don't even know try to cause me problems because

- I have duped gear
- I train on LHC glitched maps
- etc

I didn't know not caring about 1 thing meant I can't care about anything. I am voicing my opinion on how I see the "legit talk." Maybe some people would see what I say and go "Hmm, yea why am i wasting my time arguing over something like this, it's silly."

That's how I feel about it. If I'm having fun, that's the goal. I am not causing anyone else distress by having fun either so I don't see why people I don't even know try to cause me problems because

- I have duped gear
- I train on LHC glitched maps
- etc

Seems you do care who said those people are trying to cause you problems all people are trying to do is come up with a definition of what isn't legit since this game has gone so far downhill we have to make a up a new definition.