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JANK CLASS SCROLL DISCRIMINATION!! f5
#21
Russt Wrote:Jank.

And Gunslingers don't have less attack than other classes. It's very nearly the same.

I think they're talking about the weapon attacks

i.e.

Craven avg = 46
Concerto average = 74
xbow = 98
bow = 95
spear = 107
sword = 105 [beheader]

etc... I have to check weapon formulas but I believe due to the "lower attack" for a weapon, weapon attack gives a bigger boost to gunslingers than say archers. I think this is also why it gives a big boost to NLs as claws have the lowest attack weapons so 1 weapon attack = more damage range than to another class.

Damage formulas have the info but i don't wanna go search them up.
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#22
Stars/bullets also add into the damage. It doesn't equalize it for sins but what about for gunslingers?
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#23
Level 90 bullets are 18 attack, bringing Concerto up to 92. Much closer to the others.

Ilbis would bring the Craven up to 73, still a much more noticeable gap.
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#24
How about bowmen?
Can I champion me some bows?Glitter
They get the same lame bonuses and they don't have UBER SIN DAMAGE ACTION!Glitter
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#25
Chompy Wrote:I DEMAND RANGED TO MELEE EQUALITY!!

First you go up and hug the monster you're killing, then we can talk equality Wink
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#26
Kaasoljoyyx Wrote:Damage formulas have the info but i don't wanna go search them up.

Don't really need damage formulas to see the difference.

46 craven + 27 ilbis + 18 from other gear + 12 pots = 103 atk
81 craven + ... = 138 atk
102 pinaka + 18 from other gear + 12 pots = 132 atk
137 pinaka + ... = 167 atk

Thief gets 34% damage boost, DK gets 26% damage boost for perfect scrolling.

To even that out to 26% each, the thief would get +28 atk = +4 atk per scroll. How's that for equality? :x
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#27
CJScarlet Wrote:First you go up and hug the monster you're killing, then we can talk equality Wink

^ won the thread with that! <3

i noticed this too and coming from a mage perspective i was a lil confused...i mean, we can already hit anything we want as gunslingers, why MORE accuracy?...o wells, i'll still use it and be hella accurate? T> accuracy for avoid pls! Cool
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#28
Molly Wrote:^ won the thread with that! <3

i noticed this too and coming from a mage perspective i was a lil confused...i mean, we can already hit anything we want as gunslingers, why MORE accuracy?...o wells, i'll still use it and be hella accurate? T> accuracy for avoid pls! Cool

It's just like being a Bowman.

Our weapon scrolls give us Accuracy why? I have enough accuracy to pierce the heavens, dangit.
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#29
FelixTM Wrote:It's just like being a Bowman.

Our weapon scrolls give us Accuracy why? I have enough accuracy to pierce the heavens, dangit.

So you can snipe Anego to death, one damage at a time, at level 80.
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#30
Chompy Wrote:For those of you who may have not noticed....
30% scrolls tend to give +5 att + 3 main stat + 1 something generally useless.
This is true for ALL classes and scrolls except one:
Gunslingers give +5 att + 3 ACC + 1 Dex
Therefore totally lame.Hurt
Yes Brawlers have the normal +3 str.
Nexon Please explain this too me.Glitter

EDIT: I am a failure. It seems like all Ranged classes get these lame stat bonus.
Except Mages. But their formula is totally awkward anyway.
so...
I DEMAND RANGED TO MELEE EQUALITY!!

It's not that lame actually. If a Bowmaster/Marksman has an ultra-godly (X)bow he can have like +5 Dex while the weapon's equipped. Having a full lvl-up worth of bonus Dex is not that bad... though any bow like that also has 25 attack above base so you won't be complaining anyway. Glitter
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#31
Quantact Wrote:It's not that lame actually. If a Bowmaster/Marksman has an ultra-godly (X)bow he can have like +5 Dex while the weapon's equipped. Having a full lvl-up worth of bonus Dex is not that bad... though any bow like that also has 25 attack above base so you won't be complaining anyway. Glitter

Its just instead of +5 dex melee classes are looking at +15 Stat XGlitter
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