Gundam 00 S2 EP7
I love everybody's reaction when they find Allelujah with Marie, absolutely hilarious. Cherudim Gundam has a kickass gun, a sniper rifle that can turn into a beam rifle.
Wow. I took the advice to play the Chaos;Head VN, and boy, they really did stray from the path. Hell, I'm having 10x more fun with the VN than the anime.
Thanks for suggestin' it everyones. I finally got sick and tired of the show.
acev Wrote:Wow. I took the advice to play the Chaos;Head VN, and boy, they really did stray from the path. Hell, I'm having 10x more fun with the VN than the anime.
Thanks for suggestin' it everyones. I finally got sick and tired of the show.
Is there an actual patch for it, or just the translation notes? I couldn't seem to find the former.
Is there an actual patch for it, or just the translation notes? I couldn't seem to find the former.
The official patch isn't done yet, but the anti-fail beta patch is more than good enough. It only doesn't translate a few lines in a couple scenes and has very few glitches.
FelixTM Wrote:The official patch isn't done yet, but the anti-fail beta patch is more than good enough. It only doesn't translate a few lines in a couple scenes and has very few glitches.
It shouldn't be hard to find at all.
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Oh, I had found the beta, I just usually associate beta translation as "lol here's something pomegranatety so you gaiz wont stalk and / or kill us"
acev Wrote:Wow. I took the advice to play the Chaos;Head VN, and boy, they really did stray from the path. Hell, I'm having 10x more fun with the VN than the anime.
Thanks for suggestin' it everyones. I finally got sick and tired of the show.
Is it really that much better than the anime?
I've been wanting to get it but I've been debating as to whether or not I should wait for the anime to finish. I really don't want the anime to be ruined for me, especially as it got kinda good last episode.
tl;dr: Is it really worth playing the VN before finishing the anime?
2008-11-18, 01:05 PM (This post was last modified: 2008-11-18, 02:26 PM by FelixTM.)
belovedblood Wrote:Is it really that much better than the anime?
I've been wanting to get it but I've been debating as to whether or not I should wait for the anime to finish. I really don't want the anime to be ruined for me, especially as it got kinda good last episode.
tl;dr: Is it really worth playing the VN before finishing the anime?
Yes. The anime is garbage compared to the VN, as that's often the case.
If you haven't already, you should read my posts on the previous page (minus the spoilers).
Clannad ~After Story~ 07:
Lol @ Yukine picking up Yuu and giving him a piggy back ride while he is trying to threaten her.
Ga-Rei -Zero- 05:
Needs more Yomi x Kagura in my opinion but I did like it when Yomi punched Nori.
Gundam 00 S2 07:
I liked the insert song. I want to see Saji kill Louise so I can watch him be more of a pitiful bastard, he might even kill himself if he did that .
Soul Eater 33- Wow at this episode. I've never seen the characters so pissed at each other before. The way Black Star goes "If you hit me again, I'll destroy you with all my strength", then Maka just running off. That completely caught me by surprise.
Black Star is definently my favorite character in this anime by far
Anyone gonna watch Gundam 00 when it airs on the 24th on Sci Fi? I hear that the english voice actor for Heero Yuy (Gundam Wing) is doing Setsuna. I'm interested in how it turns out.
What the HECK JUST HAPPENED? They've officially decided to screw the story and MAKE THEIR OWN NEW ONE! WTH was up with that pink digger? LOL That never even happened. LOL Sena and Kozue NEVER publicly destroyed Porters together. OMG! And Norose DEFINITELY NEVER saw them use their Di-Swords. WTH? Now in the anime NOZOMI knows about Sena and Kozue. WTH? WOOOOW
And I saw in the ep8 preview that Sena and Norose were fighting with their Di-Swords. WTHHHH?! THEY NEVER FIGHT. And Norose doesn't reveal his Di-Sword until the VERY end of the series. LOL WOOOOWNESS. I can not wait to see how the anime changes the story now. LOL The ending is going to be WAYY different if they keep this up. TAHAHAHAHA!
Oh, and Dark Rebirth is the worst sub group EVER. I wish you guys realized how much they were mistranslating and completely butchering. WTH is a Gigalomaniax? LOL Last time I checked they were Giga-lo-maniacs. What are G-errates? ROFL Last I checked they were GE Rates. Oh wow. GG, Dark Rebirth, you are making this hilarious mock series even more priceless.
And let's not forget the FANTASTIC QUALITY! Hoooooo! Let's see how ugly we can make the characters! HECK YEAH!
Oh lawds LOL
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Casshern Sins ep8:
Holy...
I literally have goosebumps. Wow.
Gorgeous animation. Beautiful singing. Amazing.
...great episode.
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ToraDora ep8:
TRAINING MONTAGES?
BRO FIST WITH MINORIN?
TAIGA FINALLY STARTING TO REVEAL HER FEELINGS FOR RYUUJI?
SPENDING THE SUMMER AT AMI'S VILLA?
WingZero Wrote:Anyone gonna watch Gundam 00 when it airs on the 24th on Sci Fi? I hear that the english voice actor for Heero Yuy (Gundam Wing) is doing Setsuna. I'm interested in how it turns out.
After watching the trailer on the official website and hearing that Graham has the voice of as pre-pubescent boy, no chance.
2008-11-22, 09:25 PM (This post was last modified: 2008-11-22, 09:29 PM by DrRusty.)
wtp happened in Chaos;Head 7. The episode starts out with Ayase commiting suicide :f6:. Why was she up there, and why'd she want to kill herself, and what are those dudes from NOZOMI talking about. I kind of understand how the delusions become reality, but what are they trying to accomplish? Why does time freeze whenever they bring out their Di-Swords? Why was everyone at school all of a sudden interested in Takumi? Why is the city all of a sudden going into chaos after that earthquake thing? Who payed those guys to beat up Takumi?
wow i have alot of questions. Those are just the ones I remember to ask.
DrRusty Wrote:wtp happened in Chaos;Head 7. The episode starts out with Ayase commiting suicide :f6:. Why was she up there, and why'd she want to kill herself, and what are those dudes from NOZOMI talking about. I kind of understand how the delusions become reality, but what are they trying to accomplish? Why does time freeze whenever they bring out their Di-Swords? Why was everyone at school all of a sudden interested in Takumi? Why is the city all of a sudden going into chaos after that earthquake thing? Who payed those guys to beat up Takumi?
wow i have alot of questions. Those are just the ones I remember to ask.
*cracks knuckles*
The anime is much more confusing than the story actually is because they've been shaving off like almost all the back story and supplemental story. It's pathetic, really.
Ayase's been going through a really hard time. Her life has been messed up since she was born. She used to be enslaved by NOZOMI and they ran lots of experiments on her. They're the reason she has her Di-Sword, and she's one of the first code samples of a Giga-lo-maniac they obtained (for their Noah device). The people at @chan discovered she used to be mental patient (that mental hospital was just a cover NOZOMI used) and Phantasm really took a blow because of that. The police have been after and suspecting Ayase of being the New-Gen murderer because of her songs' lyrics.
And now she is starting to doubt the prophecy she's always believed in is even going to come true. With the accumulation of all these events, she decides she'd rather escape from it all than endure what she fears is going to happen. However, Takumi real-booted his delusion of her falling into a flowerbed and saved her life (the anime did a horrible job at showing this). As long as the anime doesn't cut it out, you should find out more about Ayase when she's in the hospital. A lot of very intense and informational events occur while she's hospitalized.
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Those dudes from NOZOMI are talking about their Noah device, which will soon become Noah II (a god-like machine). NOZOMI basically controls a crapton of corporations, businesses, powerful people, etc. They're always controlling things behind the scene (even things you may not suspect...). With Norose heading the creation of Noah, he's been manipulating everything for his own selfish schemes. NOZOMI has been extracting code samples from the brainwaves of giga-lo-maniacs (Rimi, Ayase, Yui...) and using them to develop a machine that uses those powers.
By creating a device like this, their goal is create a new "reality" for Japan and eventually the world. With Noah II, they'll be able to control what everyone hears, feels, tastes, smells and even sees. Essentially, they can rewrite the world's five senses and become God themselves. They can control anything they want.
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Time doesn't freeze when they create or real-boot their Di-Swords. I dunno where you got that.
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Everyone at school was interested in Takumi because they had seen him talking to Ayase earlier that week (and she never talks to anyone). They assumed they were a couple or whatever. When she tried committing suicide, they thought Takumi had something to do with it.
However, none of that actually happens in the real story. The anime made all of that up...which is retarded. I figure they made that scene because they plan on taking out a scene which should be coming up. Something happens between Shogun and Takumi that gets him national attention. After that, everyone mocks him and picks on him. The anime is changing the story big time now, so I doubt they are even going to have that. Sadly, the anime doesn't even focus much on the events of Shogun and New-Gen cases. The anime is trying to make it all about NOZOMI as quickly as possible, which is terribly hurting the story.
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The city is entering a state of chaos because that earthquake (the 2nd Melt) was created by Noah. Shibuya itself has a naturally high GE (gravitational error) rate which causes people to act on their emotions or desires much more greatly. It's why so many young people are drawn to Shibuya seeking fun or happiness. NOZOMI has been manipulating and raising the GE rates to accomplish their goals. Noah itself greatly spikes these rates, causing people to act irrationally.
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Who paid those guys to beat Takumi up?
That's honestly a good question. It's never explicitly revealed who did it, and at first I thought it was Shogun. However, when it's later revealed that
Spoiler
Suwa
is an insane psychopath that's been corrupted by NOZOMI, I thought it might have been him. So I'm torn between those two. I still feel it makes the most sense that it was Shogun (since his goal from the beginning has been to get Takumi to awaken), but at the same time I find that unlikely because Shogun wouldn't have risked going out in public like that. I decided it was the guy in the spoiler, but I'm not sure of his reasons other than to have fun. Perhaps the anime will explain it in a way that fits their own story best.
2008-11-22, 10:54 PM (This post was last modified: 2008-11-22, 11:32 PM by acev.)
FelixTM Wrote:*cracks knuckles*
The anime is much more confusing than the story actually is because they've been shaving off like almost all the back story and supplemental story. It's pathetic, really.
Ayase's been going through a really hard time. Her life has been messed up since she was born. She used to be enslaved by NOZOMI and they ran lots of experiments on her. They're the reason she has her Di-Sword, and she's one of the first code samples of a Giga-lo-maniac they obtained (for their Noah device). The people at @chan discovered she used to be mental patient (that mental hospital was just a cover NOZOMI used) and Phantasm really took a blow because of that. The police have been after and suspecting Ayase of being the New-Gen murderer because of her songs' lyrics.
And now she is starting to doubt the prophecy she's always believed in is even going to come true. With the accumulation of all these events, she decides she'd rather escape from it all than endure what she fears is going to happen. However, Takumi real-booted his delusion of her falling into a flowerbed and saved her life (the anime did a horrible job at showing this). As long as the anime doesn't cut it out, you should find out more about Ayase when she's in the hospital. A lot of very intense and informational events occur while she's hospitalized.
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Those dudes from NOZOMI are talking about their Noah device, which will soon become Noah II (a god-like machine). NOZOMI basically controls a crapton of corporations, businesses, powerful people, etc. They're always controlling things behind the scene (even things you may not suspect...). With Norose heading the creation of Noah, he's been manipulating everything for his own selfish schemes. NOZOMI has been extracting code samples from the brainwaves of giga-lo-maniacs (Rimi, Ayase, Yui...) and using them to develop a machine that uses those powers.
By creating a device like this, their goal is create a new "reality" for Japan and eventually the world. With Noah II, they'll be able to control what everyone hears, feels, tastes, smells and even sees. Essentially, they can rewrite the world's five senses and become God themselves. They can control anything they want.
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Time doesn't freeze when they create or real-boot their Di-Swords. I dunno where you got that.
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Everyone at school was interested in Takumi because they had seen him talking to Ayase earlier that week (and she never talks to anyone). They assumed they were a couple or whatever. When she tried committing suicide, they thought Takumi had something to do with it.
However, none of that actually happens in the real story. The anime made all of that up...which is retarded. I figure they made that scene because they plan on taking out a scene which should be coming up. Something happens between Shogun and Takumi that gets him national attention. After that, everyone mocks him and picks on him. The anime is changing the story big time now, so I doubt they are even going to have that. Sadly, the anime doesn't even focus much on the events of Shogun and New-Gen cases. The anime is trying to make it all about NOZOMI as quickly as possible, which is terribly hurting the story.
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The city is entering a state of chaos because that earthquake (the 2nd Melt) was created by Noah. Shibuya itself has a naturally high GE (gravitational error) rate which causes people to act on their emotions or desires much more greatly. It's why so many young people are drawn to Shibuya seeking fun or happiness. NOZOMI has been manipulating and raising the GE rates to accomplish their goals. Noah itself greatly spikes these rates, causing people to act irrationally.
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Who paid those guys to beat Takumi up?
That's honestly a good question. It's never explicitly revealed who did it, and at first I thought it was Shogun. However, when it's later revealed that
Spoiler
Suwa
is an insane psychopath that's been corrupted by NOZOMI, I thought it might have been him. So I'm torn between those two. I still feel it makes the most sense that it was Shogun (since his goal from the beginning has been to get Takumi to awaken), but at the same time I find that unlikely because Shogun wouldn't have risked going out in public like that. I decided it was the guy in the spoiler, but I'm not sure of his reasons other than to have fun. Perhaps the anime will explain it in a way that fits their own story best.
For those who played Chaos;Head VN and seen end A and B and as a response to Felix
Spoiler
It was indeed Suwa who paid the thugs. It's explained in the B ending where he experiences all of the new gen cases. Also, from what I can tell, it wasn't Shogun who causes Takumi to experience national attention (Assuming you're talking about the scene where he goes up to the roof and is forced to find his D-Sword, fails, and runs away). I assume it was Suwa who did that because of the Mask, and how he was able to escape through the barrage of reporters. Also, Shogun tells Takumi "I don't do cosplay". Also, I doubt Shogun would've cut his own sister's hand off.
Now, after finishing the VN getting almost all of the CG, I really wish the anime would've stuck to the VN more. I found myself actually understanding everything that wasn't explained in the anime, and I really think that they should've stuck to the VN, even if it required more episodes.
2008-11-22, 11:36 PM (This post was last modified: 2008-11-23, 12:01 AM by FelixTM.)
acev Wrote:For those who played Chaos;Head VN and seen end A and B and as a response to Felix
Spoiler
It was indeed Suwa who paid the thugs. It's explained in the B ending where he experiences all of the new gen cases. Also, from what I can tell, it wasn't Shogun who causes Takumi to experience national attention (Assuming you're talking about the scene where he goes up to the roof and is forced to find his D-Sword, fails, and runs away). I assume it was Suwa who did that because of the Mask, and how he was able to escape through the barrage of reporters.
Now, after finishing the VN getting almost all of the CG, I really wish the anime would've stuck to the VN more. I found myself actually understanding everything that wasn't explained in the anime, and I really think that they should've stuck to the VN, even if it required more episodes.
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...I don't remember it explicitly saying it was Suwa. I did the B ending first, so it was longer ago. Can you gimme a screencap?
Yes, but that's confusing to me. I assumed it was Suwa, too, due to the Darth Spider (or w/e haha) mask and his obsession with that franchise (as he says and proves later when that helmet is present again during when he murders Ban). But then that led me to wonder a lot of things. Is it truly Suwa doing those things related to Takumi or is it Shogun manipulating him? The things Suwa does only help accomplish Shogun's goals, as he states and apologizes later for (saying he just wanted to make Takumi awaken). And if it wasn't Shogun, then really how much did Shogun do to provoke Takumi? Not much. I'd like to hear your opinions on that matter.
And yeah, that's a given. The anime is terrible compared to the VN. I'm playing through Chapter 6 again right now to check what else they cut out from this episode. I TOTALLY forgot and didn't even notice that they cut out one of my very favorite scenes!!!
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If you remember that scene, you know what I'm talking about. Was it not insanely creepy and intense? LOL OMG I'm still haunted by that ringtone and thinking, Oh...OH NO TAKUMI! Then when he was like, "The box is heavy..." I was like, OH CRAP IT'S HER HAND!!! Seriously screwed up.
It really makes me wonder where the anime is going, especially with the preview showing that Norose is going to be using his Di-Sword already in ep8.
Oh, and I totally want to chat with you sometime if you'd be up for it. No one ever wants to thoroughly discuss this series with me. ;_;
MOAR thoughts:
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k so finished chapter 6 another time. I paid very close attention to every detail of the rooftop incident, and it brings up some questions:
It would be very strange if that was Shogun. Shogun would know Takumi has the same powers as he does. The way he seems curious makes it definitely seem like it's Suwa. I think I neglected Suwa far too much in my reads through the story. He seemed more like a puppet to me than anything. I'm confused, though.
How does Suwa know of Shogun? And how does Suwa know Shogun is in a wheelchair?
How closely together are Hazuki and Suwa working? I know they're both working for NOZOMI in some way, but I still don't get some things. Hazuki is the New-Gen murderer, but isn't Suwa responsible for some of the murders, as well? Since Hazuki is actually Takumi's friend "Grim" she could have known about Shogun, but that still doesn't explain how they know he's in a wheelchair. Did I miss something where Hazuki could have known this and told Suwa?
I think as I read through the story, I just got an assumption in my mind and accepted that. But now the more I think about things, the more I can see them going different ways. I would REALLY like to know more about Suwa and all his true intentions. I think he's the most mysterious character in the entire series.
2008-11-23, 12:52 AM (This post was last modified: 2008-11-23, 01:13 AM by acev.)
FelixTM Wrote:
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...I don't remember it explicitly saying it was Suwa. I did the B ending first, so it was longer ago. Can you gimme a screencap?
Yes, but that's confusing to me. I assumed it was Suwa, too, due to the Darth Spider (or w/e haha) mask and his obsession with that franchise (as he says and proves later when that helmet is present again during when he murders Ban). But then that led me to wonder a lot of things. Is it truly Suwa doing those things related to Takumi or is it Shogun manipulating him? The things Suwa does only help accomplish Shogun's goals, as he states and apologizes later for (saying he just wanted to make Takumi awaken). And if it wasn't Shogun, then really how much did Shogun do to provoke Takumi? Not much. I'd like to hear your opinions on that matter.
And yeah, that's a given. The anime is terrible compared to the VN. I'm playing through Chapter 6 again right now to check what else they cut out from this episode. I TOTALLY forgot and didn't even notice that they cut out one of my very favorite scenes!!!
Spoiler
If you remember that scene, you know what I'm talking about. Was it not insanely creepy and intense? LOL OMG I'm still haunted by that ringtone and thinking, Oh...OH NO TAKUMI! Then when he was like, "The box is heavy..." I was like, OH CRAP IT'S HER HAND!!! Seriously screwed up.
It really makes me wonder where the anime is going, especially with the preview showing that Norose is going to be using his Di-Sword already in ep8.
Oh, and I totally want to chat with you sometime if you'd be up for it. No one ever wants to thoroughly discuss this series with me. ;_;
Chaos;Head ep7
Spoiler
What....the...hell? They really did cut out that scene! Nanami doesn't come to his house to explain the earthquake, it's supposed to be done by cell! Gah. They get rid of some of the best parts, and add in crap like the digger. By the way, when Takumi's comp was in BSOD, he made much more commotion in the VN than he did in the Anime. I was surprised to hear him, almost in a calm manner, say "I'm finished".
Thoughts about anime and visual novel:
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The begining isn't supposed to be about the characters and such. It's really supposed to be about "shogun", and how everything is effecting him. NOZUMI(or whatever) isn't the main plot under AFTER Takumi really understands what's going on. I still love the scene where Takumi get's his Di-Sword. The main theme(off-vocal) plays, and it's just badass. Although that scene was followed by the ever creepy Hazuki scenes. *Shudders*
Felix, I do remember that scene, and damn, I didn't know it would be her hand. It was just, shocking, to see that after he opened his eyes. It made the email make more sense though.
My Suwa theory:
Suwa is part of NOZOMI, and thus, is trying to get Takumi to awaken because they need his awakened form to get his CODE sample. So he used his mask and pretended to be Shogun (Which he apparently knew from NOZOMI, judging from the time in the chat when "Grim"(Hazuki) stated "Hi Lord Shogun" in the chat.") Shogun really didn't do much, but I think it's because he wasn't able to do much. He needed Takumi to awaken, but he couldn't use too much of his power to enable him to awaken or else he would've died. I wasn't too shocked when it was revealed that they were both Takumi, especially when they foreshadow it in the VN (Which I loved, how they had the beat everytime something was revealed. It made me jump on certain occasions.). Although I was relieved when it was shown that Takumi II wouldn't die when the real one did. Although being in a coma for a year, wow.
In all, I love how the VN foreshadowed and told stuff, and it had it's appropriate moments of songs. Still, "Let me pass" scares the hell out of me. Dunno why.
I'd be willing to chat whenever if you want. IMO, Chaos; Head is an awesome series, although the anime version is seriously lacking in presentation.
What....the...hell? They really did cut out that scene! Nanami doesn't come to his house to explain the earthquake, it's supposed to be done by cell! Gah. They get rid of some of the best parts, and add in crap like the digger. By the way, when Takumi's comp was in BSOD, he made much more commotion in the VN than he did in the Anime. I was surprised to hear him, almost in a calm manner, say "I'm finished".
Thoughts about anime and visual novel:
Spoiler
The begining isn't supposed to be about the characters and such. It's really supposed to be about "shogun", and how everything is effecting him. NOZUMI(or whatever) isn't the main plot under AFTER Takumi really understands what's going on. I still love the scene where Takumi get's his Di-Sword. The main theme(off-vocal) plays, and it's just badass. Although that scene was followed by the ever creepy Hazuki scenes. *Shudders*
Felix, I do remember that scene, and damn, I didn't know it would be her hand. It was just, shocking, to see that after he opened his eyes. It made the email make more sense though.
My Suwa theory:
Suwa is part of NOZOMI, and thus, is trying to get Takuya to awaken because they need his awakened form to get his CODE sample. So he used his mask and pretended to be Shogun (Which he apparently knew from NOZOMI, judging from the time in the chat when "Grim"(Hazuki) stated "Hi Lord Shogun" in the chat.") Shogun really didn't do much, but I think it's because he wasn't able to do much. He needed Takumi to awaken, but he couldn't use too much of his power to enable him to awaken or else he would've died. I wasn't too shocked when it was revealed that they were both Takumi, especially when they foreshadow it in the VN (Which I loved, how they had the beat everytime something was revealed. It made me jump on certain occasions.). Although I was relieved when it was shown that Takumi II wouldn't die when the real one did. Although being in a coma for a year, wow.
In all, I love how the VN foreshadowed and told stuff, and it had it's appropriate moments of songs. Still, "Let me pass" scares the hell out of me. Dunno why.
I'd be willing to chat whenever if you want. IMO, Chaos; Head is an awesome series, although the anime version is seriously lacking in presentation.
Spoiler
...Oh frick-
I totally missed that line. That explains quite a few things.
However, I am still not quite sure how tied together Hazuki and Suwa are. What's with the scene where he comes and asks her for Takumi's file? They were alone, so if they knew each other, why did they act like they didn't? What's with them?
I know they are both puppets to NOZOMI (especially seeing as Hazuki is a Porter later)...but what the heck? It's pretty clear which murders Hazuki committed and which Suwa committed - but what was the point? I understand that almost all of the murders affect Takumi in some way, some more directly than others, but were Hazuki and Suwa doing a type of planning together or simply taking orders from Norose/NOZOMI?
I think what I'm trying to get at it is... Was NOZOMI's plan really much more deep than the VN explicitly explains? I think the VN makes it so a lot about Suwa + Hazuki has to be figured out on our own, don't you? I'm also quite curious how two young people like Suwa and Hazuki could have been so corrupted by NOZOMI...
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Honestly, I wasn't that surprised when they revealed Shogun was the real Takumi, either. I was kinda like, The heck, how? But then it quickly made sense to me and fit very well.
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Another thing I'm wondering: Takumi put Nanami's hand in his fridge right after that incident occurred. Rimi was the one that got it and brought it back to Shogun, yes? How'd she know to? Just by chance of going there and looking? Shogun somehow being aware of what happened and telling her to? What? Did I miss something again >_>?
At about 9:30-9:40 he says "Dqns are targetting me now". What are Dqns?
When the Giga-Lo-Maniacs are holding their Di-Swords, are they just delusions? and once they "real-boot" them, that's when they can use them to fight. As delusions, Takumi can still see them i think. They can also use the di-sword to real-boot other things around them; which, Takumi can do without a di-sword. Is this how it works?
I re-watched parts of episode 7, and I guess time didn't freeze. It just looks funny when Kozupii is slashing at those people while they're just standing there.