Ask a Thief Thread.

Okay, I'm a dagger thief at the moment, with around 14 mil in fundings. I'm losing money fast from pots, but should I cap my dex? If I should, when should I cap it? I'm already at 50, so should I just leave it at that, maybe go up to 60, etc.

i started a thief/sindit In Kradia EMS
I want it to be str bandi.I'm not really funded but I'm merchanting slowly and also slow leveling. i was planning to start around 45~50 with dagger should i just go luk bandit before and at higher levels add str ,so that i have enough funding to keep it as low as possible? and what would be a good point to cap dex and str?
So should i go

• dexless(till high level)
  
• low dex at around 45~
  
• low dex and str at around 45~
  

i think its the best to stay dexless/strless till around 45 since than i am only using the meba with dex equips. And we got dexless daggers for lv 35,50,64,75 in eMS,no zhelms, but we have top/bottem scrolls and helmet acc
Also any good training spots in NLC for sindits?

I have a question...I was wondering, when I get to NL, if I should put 1 in Taunt since I've heard it increases exp quite a bit. Is the exp worth the point and time it takes to cast the skill?

no cause with L7 / tt you will kill slower lol just do the normal TT/fake/venom/shadow claw taunt later.

Alright, so I've decided to go Low-dex now. Is there any way to calculate how much ATT my new dagger will need to beat out my dexless self?

watk > luk idk if theres a calculation for it or not lol

I decided on a new build after Level 21 Savage Blow:
Level 38 = +2 Mastery (3), +1 Savage (22)
Level 39 = +2 Mastery (5), +1 Savage (23)

So at Level 46/47 youlll have SB and Mastery maxed while your damage improving always.

That was the build I advised my bandit friend. 1 into mastery, 21 SB, then 2 mastery/1 SB per level. That or 6 boosters after 21 SB and then 2 mastery 1 SB. Just make sure your mastery stays odd until you finish maxing out all your important skills. This build cost more pot money, which she has plenty.

I get 160 xp from truckers for about 3000 HP and mesos are on par with my pots, without any drops, I get 7% in 10 minutes. Are these good training? For lvl 5x Luck dit?

I get 160 xp from truckers for about 3000 HP and mesos are on par with my pots, without any drops, I get 7% in 10 minutes. Are these good training? For lvl 5x Luck dit?

Heck yeah. That's 42% per hour.

How does a NL solo efficiently at 2nd body pap?

assuming you arent apple'ing and cant pin the 2nd body, make use of dark sight.

2 examples
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xvVdO8mFBA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=821EYdoe0hw

So, I'm maxing mastery first (OMG NUB!!!) anyway, should I start doing 2 on Savage Blow and 1 on mastery, or just max mastery then move to savage blow?

I already put one into Savage Blow just for show, and the rest into Mastery (so 12). I'm pretty close to getting to 19 in mastery anyway, but still looking for advice.

For a general rule in savage blow/mastery, I would get mastery+level 5-6booster first if you have double stab, but if you used L7 in first job, I would get savage blow (with level 1 mastery) first.

For a general rule in savage blow/mastery, I would get mastery+level 5-6booster first if you have double stab, but if you used L7 in first job, I would get savage blow (with level 1 mastery) first.

Then I made the right decision. *sighs in relief*

So I need advice on scrolling my cape...


Gear otherwise:
3 dex Pilfer (yeah I really need to get a Zakum Helm... >_>)
15 dex Avenger
6 dex 4 slots Green Gonis
10 dex Earring
42 atk Slain
12 atk Stormcasters
1/1/1/1 Spiegelmann
=+35 dex, I have 60 base. (I've been wearing a Slain and lower leveled shoes up to now)

If I get a Zakum Helmet I'd be going up to +47 dex (107 total) so I'm not sure I need a dex cape in the long term.

I already have a 10 dex Black Napoleon (and a 3 atk str cape which I've been using), and I just bought a 2 atk clean Pink Cape.


I'm definitely going to be 60%ing it because I do need it to not break, I'm just not sure whether to go for LUK or DEX. If I scroll it for luk, it's an immediate damage boost. If I scroll it for dex, it lets me wear a Gigantic without having to switch to the Black Napoleon (I'm level 59 so this is soon). However I have been looking for well scrolled Gigantics and I've simply found nothing to compare to my Slain. By 70 I will almost definitely be able to get my hands on a Zakum Helmet.

I guess the question is luk or dex? Price is a factor but I'll be questing as many as possible so it's not a deal breaker if one scroll costs more.

If funding is a problem, i don't think over-scrolling would benefit you.

Dex Goals :
Level 70 (scarab) 110 dex
Level 60 (gig) 100 dex
level 50 (slain) 90 dex

Your current dex is at (60+35) = 95.

I personally think that scrolling for dex you're not gonna use until later level is a waste of dex, but i also think scrolling for luk and you need the dex later is a hassle. I think the best investment is buying a zhelm.

Getting a 12 dex and 12 luk zhelm is hard. I didnt even think there was such a thing. Thats enough dex for your next claw and you can continue scrolling from there.

Zhelms aren't that expensive anymore and it's a good investment. but surely ugly.

[SIZE="1"]Really short question: When to have level 1 Taunt? :O
Would it be useful at level 1? Does it work on bosses?
I guess it won't be if it doesn't work on bosses.
The explanation isn't very clear: :"Provokes a monster, causing its general defense to increase. As a result, EXP earned and drop rate for items will increase for this monster."

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[SIZE="1"]I'm currently at level 156, with
TT 30
MW 19
Venom 28
Shifter 30
Shadow Star 1
Ninja Storm 1 (for fun - maybe I'll max this next, that is if I can level more ._. *shrugs*)
Hero Will 0 (I got the skill but I don't think I'll put any point into it) =/
Ambush 0
Taunt 0
And 2 saved SP[/SIZE]

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[SIZE="1"]Really short question: When to have level 1 Taunt? :O
Would it be useful at level 1? Does it work on bosses?
I guess it won't be if it doesn't work on bosses.
The explanation isn't very clear: :"Provokes a monster, causing its general defense to increase. As a result, EXP earned and drop rate for items will increase for this monster."

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[SIZE="1"]I'm currently at level 156, with
TT 30
MW 19
Venom 28
Shifter 30
Shadow Star 1
Ninja Storm 1 (for fun - maybe I'll max this next, that is if I can level more ._. *shrugs*)
Hero Will 0 (I got the skill but I don't think I'll put any point into it) =/
Ambush 0
Taunt 0
And 2 saved SP[/SIZE]

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I had got taunt at level 13x, and have been using it ever since.

At skeles, it's really useful, I get an extra 1-2k EXP from each skele and during 2x that's like almost 5k extra per skele. I usually TT 2 times then jump and use taunt because taunting in air takes less time than on ground and then while venom is killing the monster, the taunt usually finishes off the monster. If not I just TT 1 more time and it dies.

Works in mobs too because you can hit up to 6 monsters with it now, so I really reccomend getting it.

I recalled some Shadower on here saying the damage range between lvl 21 and 30 Bstep wasnt that drastic, only like 2k-3k, can anyone confirm the differences for me and tell me if its worth my 9 points to max it, or just put 9 points in MW? Any and all input is appreciated.

2 Questions
First, I'm not positive on what to upgrade next. As a Lvl 70 Dexless Hermit I have:
44 Att Neva
10 Att WG
16 LUK and DEX Zhelm
2 Dex Spiegelmann Necklace
Clean BSS
3 LUK 4 slot Earrings
5 LUK 9 Slot Red Sauna Robe
3 Attack 0 Slot PAC
6 Steelys
and about 120 Mil to blow once I sell my deputy star. I can also get a good 100 mil from selling my Neva. My dilemma is basically; Try and get a good skanda or try to upgrade my other stuff and hold on until I can afford a better one. I am planning on buying about 8 more steelys at least.

My second question is, Can a level 80 Dexless hermit with maxed shadow partner kill Bigfoot with apples?

You should try to get a good Skanda first. Either that or see if you could do a decent trade for a 4 attack PAC (which is decently cheap due to the gold/silver boxes event).

Anyhow, just ignore getting stars for now. As for Bigfoot, I doubt you can kill it within a reasonable time frame, even with apple at level 80.

I have question about the Hermit skills.
Are the skills, Alchemist, meso up, and shadow mesos useful? (is it reccomended that you should put points into them?)

Alchemist is unbelievable useful in potions. It's extremely recommended.

Eh, Meso Up is okay, but it's better than Shadow mesos and Shadow Web.

Shadow Mesos has limited uses.