MapleStory Renegades - Coming this Summer

The game sure is different from being the Maplestory with the classic Warrior, Archer, Mage, and Thief...
Then again, if new classes weren't released, the game would have died a loooong time ago.

Why? I would rather have tons more new maps and features, than all these classes we have now. 1 or 2 classes a year is fine, but I also want some other content outside constant revamps and new jobs. And if the classes have nothing else but re-used skills with new animations, there's really nothing to see there.

Personally, I feel like all the classes have lost their original identity, uniqueness and meaning. That MS where all classes had their pros and cons is gone now.

The game sure is different from being the Maplestory with the classic Warrior, Archer, Mage, and Thief...
Then again, if new classes weren't released, the game would have died a loooong time ago.

I can't account for everyone, but I prefer the original classes to anything else still.
I haven't mained another class, let alone a non-adventurer.

Hell, the only characters I've gotten to 120+ are a Drk and NL..

The game sure is different from being the Maplestory with the classic Warrior, Archer, Mage, and Thief...
Then again, if new classes weren't released, the game would have died a loooong time ago.

Classes don't keep people interested, new activities do. It just so happens that new classes give people another way to experience the game, but in the end, you're still going to be doing the same things - just with a different character. New places to explore, new PQs, et al are much more preferable IMO to *another* new class.

Classes don't keep people interested, new activities do. It just so happens that new classes give people another way to experience the game, but in the end, you're still going to be doing the same things - just with a different character. New places to explore, new PQs, et al are much more preferable IMO to *another* new class.

I've said this before and I'll say it again. Every new class should come with a new area. Not just a starting area, a new area. Edelstine was a nice addition to the game because it was new classes plus a big continent. It doesn't matter how small it will be. Example: If Mikail came out with the Golden Temple Theme dungeon it would make that patch tons more appealing. It doesn't matter how low level or crappy a new area is imo it adds something new. I know I'll be spending a lot of time at the GT Theme Dungeon fighting Ravana and doing the quests. Classes have always been a welcomed addition in my book IF they add something with it instead of just saying hokay herez a cl@ss. Maybe it's just me but I've always felt JMS and GMS have done it right. If they think an update is stale and lack luster on content they add their own crap in to spice it up a little.

Made some tricks with gimp and I'm 100% sure that the girl in the image is wearing 2 guns. Doesn't still mean dual-gun job, as it could just be for the concept, but anyways...

Right hand is clearly a holster.
Dex based alien gun cowboy it is.

if new classes weren't released, the game would have died a loooong time ago.

Completely disagree. The game has been dying even with new classes being repeatedly added. Why has it been dying? 1. Nexon's incompetence and apathy. 2. hackers

ok, maybe the release of new classes have been delaying the downfall a little bit. But it's not like constant spewing out of new classes will save it.

Completely disagree. The game has been dying even with new classes being repeatedly added. Why has it been dying? 1. Nexon's incompetence and apathy. 2. hackers

ok, maybe the release of new classes have been delaying the downfall a little bit. But it's not like constant spewing out of new classes will save it.

Unless you've been living under a rock for the last month or two, nexon is showing that they are very competent, and we haven't had any significant hacker issues since April, where they addressed it quite well. Also, it seems like every patch, more and more duped items are being deleted.
You need to look no further than yesterday to see an example. It took them a total of 4 hours, in the middle of the night too, to find out that someone ha discovered a channel crash and fix it. This is insane, seeing that people used to use the same crashes for weeks or months on end.

Unless you've been living under a rock for the last month or two, nexon is showing that they are very competent, and we haven't had any significant hacker issues since April, where they addressed it quite well. Also, it seems like every patch, more and more duped items are being deleted.
You need to look no further than yesterday to see an example. It took them a total of 4 hours, in the middle of the night too, to find out that someone ha discovered a channel crash and fix it. This is insane, seeing that people used to use the same crashes for weeks or months on end.

Unless you've been living under a rock for the past couple of years, NexonNA's incompetence led them to the point where NexonKR finally said, "No, fuck this, you're going to manage this game properly from now on."

No one is saying Nexon isn't getting better at this very moment.

Unless you've been living under a rock for the past couple of years, NexonNA's incompetence led them to the point where NexonKR finally said, "No, fuck this, you're going to manage this game properly from now on."

No one is saying Nexon isn't getting better at this very moment.

Where is your source that Nexon Korea is the one behind the improvement? There is no indication of this.

Where is your source that Nexon Korea is the one behind the improvement? There is no indication of this.

Nexon America and Nexon Europe started to show the same improvements at more or less the same time. That could either be an awesome coincidence, or Nexon Korea is behind it.

Or the fact that some of their branches shut down meant less work to do for the collective Nexon hive back in korea/japan and thus resources could be better managed to respond to issues in the rest of the branches.

That, or

Wait a second. There isn't a point in speculating this.

Yes.

No one is saying Nexon isn't getting better at this very moment.

Why is the game dying? Nexon's incompetence.

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their incompetence has been the cause of the game dying, they're fixing that incompetence NOW, hopefully the game heals, but in the end, the incompetence is the reason why we are where we are.

said "snip female zero"

that's not female zero, that's not even close to zero, it's also a guy, the things i should do to you would get me in prision FFFFF- (or a japanese porno)

Unless you've been living under a rock for the last month or two, nexon is showing that they are very competent

Let's examine really how competent Nexon has been the past month or so:
A. Removal of MTS after years of economic problems is a good move but overdue. But I'll give you that.
B. Server Merge is yet to happen. If there's a seamless transition with no merge-related glitches that's a step in the right direction. But after so many glitches arising in patches after complete lack of testing their own content, expectations are low. Announcing that the merge will take place merely a week later and then postponing it ~3 business days can be seen as quality assurance, but can also be seen as lack of planning. So this one is a TBD.
C. The past week they started answering account-hacking-related tickets much quicker and giving out MP as compensation to some. I however have a hard time understanding how Nexon can distinguish whether an account has been banned due to the player's stupidity (i.e. they could have downloaded a keylogger along with downloading a hack), or a player was hacked by no fault of their own. If a player was hacked due to their own stupidity, giving them a crapload of MP as "compensation" does not scream competence to me. You may retort with "Nexon can't be that naive to give free NX to hackers". Well, Nexon has always been that naive by having a history of such head-scratching actions.

So yeah, 1 month of minor "fix-me-ups" (some of which are yet to properly be judged because it's too early to tell whether they're actually steps in the right direction) does not a good company make.

and we haven't had any significant hacker issues since April, where they addressed it quite well.

I think you mean May. And that issue right there was not addressed "quite well". Nexon was not thorough in their wipe of illegally generated equips. Hackers gained limitless MP through this hack, "hid it", and hid it well. Hackers have various ways of hiding items including uncommon ones. If Nexon was on top of their game it wouldn't take them 2+ patches (and counting, I'd bet) to clean this up.

Also, it seems like every patch, more and more duped items are being deleted.

Maybe that's because more and more duped items are still currently being generated. Adding to that, like I've said earlier, hackers have "other" ways of hiding items. If Nexon was competent, they'd be well aware of this. It doesn't seem like they are or try to be, but I'm hoping they start to be soon.

You need to look no further than yesterday to see an example. It took them a total of 4 hours, in the middle of the night too, to find out that someone ha discovered a channel crash and fix it. This is insane, seeing that people used to use the same crashes for weeks or months on end.

I'll give them that they acted fast...this time. But let's see if they can keep it up.


All in all, a month of baby steps after years of mismanagement does not make you competent all of a sudden. MUCH MUCH more has to be done and with more consistency and intelligence.


Edit: your last post is quoting me wrong. I said "Why has the game been dying?" (past) not "why is the game dying?" (present). But I still see the state of the game as currently in a sad place. It's just that it's slightly less sad than it was a month ago.

[MENTION=9957]Fantasmo[/MENTION]; If I say my camera sucks, but it's getting repaired right now, does that automatically make it not sucky?

[MENTION=9957]Fantasmo[/MENTION]; If I say my camera sucks, but it's getting repaired right now, does that automatically make it not sucky?

If it is repaired for the issue that made it suck, then yes?

If it is repaired for the issue that made it suck, then yes?

It's getting repaired right now. It's not fully repaired yet. Point being: it's still not fully functional.

But it's still being repaired.. That's even making a presumption that it'll be "perfect" sometime soon. You guys are discussing something useless. >.>

But it's still being repaired.. That's even making a presumption that it'll be "perfect" sometime soon. You guys are discussing something useless. >.>

 the point

Nexon can be deemed incompetent right now, but that doesn't mean they're not improving.

 the point

Nexon can be deemed incompetent right now, but that doesn't mean they're not improving.

The thing is, at their current state today, I see them as competent.
Answering tickets in a few hours, patching bugs(kind of), trying to fix the duping, it seems like they're making an effort for sure.
I'm not denying how incompetent they have been in the past, not am I saying that they are the best company ever.
In your camera analogy, the problems are fixed to the point where it doesn't "suck" anymore, yet it's still not close to being the best camera it can be, as it still has problems.