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Using a mixture of arpen and AS for nocturne is ideal.
Also, Amumu/ziggs. That's why you play amumu.
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Oh boy I better answer before Aynia does.
It clears your jungle speed time by A LOT (hence making you have a lot of hp when you gank).
http://www.solomid.net/guides.php?g=8444
http://www.solomid.net/guides.php?g=17497
http://www.solomid.net/guides.php?g=18456
http://www.solomid.net/guides.php?g=2885
The ones who start with Desolation runes have cloth armor or Vampiric Scepter as 100% first buy, no questions asked.
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Corn Wrote:Oh boy I better answer before Aynia does.
It clears your jungle speed time by A LOT (hence making you have a lot of hp when you gank).
http://www.solomid.net/guides.php?g=8444
http://www.solomid.net/guides.php?g=17497
http://www.solomid.net/guides.php?g=18456
http://www.solomid.net/guides.php?g=2885
The ones who start with Desolation runes have cloth armor or Vampiric Scepter as 100% first buy, no questions asked.
Vamp scepter isn't viable since the nerf.
Gotta lifesteal quints. Best quints 2011+1
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Well, those guides that did recommend vamp scepter were like 200 days outdated.
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Im not here to exactly upgrade my rune book nor do i care about imitating the "Pros" (Nor do i care about changing my spartan playstyle either). I like lifesteal quints, reason? Because pineapple you aynia. Now i leave before i keep feeding the troll, sorry for the hijack will.
Edit: Can't really take you seriously when you insist on talking like mundo. Whatever aynia you win, im just a fucking noob with no elo that don't know how to play the game my fucking way so can you pineapple off my case already?
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FenixR Wrote:Im not here to exactly upgrade my rune book nor do i care about imitating the "Pros" (Nor do i care about changing my spartan playstyle either). I like lifesteal quints, reason? Because pineapple you aynia. Now i leave before i keep feeding the troll, sorry for the hijack will.
>Can't win in a battle of facts and skill
>Call the other guy a troll
Bwuahahaha
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FenixR Wrote:Im not here to exactly upgrade my rune book nor do i care about imitating the "Pros" (Nor do i care about changing my spartan playstyle either). I like lifesteal quints, reason? Because pineapple you aynia. Now i leave before i keep feeding the troll, sorry for the hijack will.
I'm just perplexed you why spent like, what, 6300 IP on lifesteal quints when you could've spent almost half that amount on attack speed reds, which is pretty much always the better option.
Is it a rune page slot issue?
Aynia Wrote:>Can't win in a battle of facts and skill
>Call the other guy a troll
Bwuahahaha
You're not helping the situation.
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Corn Wrote:I'm just perplexed you why spent like, what, 6300 IP on lifesteal quints when you could've spent almost half that amount on attack speed reds, which is pretty much always the better option.
Is it a rune page slot issue?
Its a gameplay issue corn, i like playing my way.
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Whatever floats your boat I guess.
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ok so
jungling jarvan in bot games
WHY DOES IT ALWAYS END IN DISASTER, WHAT AM I MISSING
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Bot games?
Bua ha ha ha ha ha.
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Yeah, it feels like my jungling is slow and I'm not ganking at the right times.
thx for the help though corn really helpful statement that has increased my insight on jungling as a whole
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FenixR Wrote:Im not here to exactly upgrade my rune book nor do i care about imitating the "Pros" (Nor do i care about changing my spartan playstyle either). I like lifesteal quints, reason? Because pineapple you aynia. Now i leave before i keep feeding the troll, sorry for the hijack will.
Edit: Can't really take you seriously when you insist on talking like mundo. Whatever aynia you win, im just a fucking noob with no elo that don't know how to play the game my fucking way so can you pineapple off my case already?
for what its worth
i use lifesteal quints when i do teemo top
preeeeeetty awesome
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modular Wrote:for what its worth
i use lifesteal quints when i do teemo top
preeeeeetty awesome
I think lifesteal/vamp quints are vastly underrated in lane.
pomegranate in the jungle though.
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Corn Wrote:Bot games?
Bua ha ha ha ha ha.
Says the guy that likes to afk in games.
Bot games are totally legit for trying out jangles anyways.
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So about how much Armor pen a jungler should have including that 10% you gain from masteries?
I have been reading than having more than 10 is a waste and i should buy 3 asp marks. Also seeing if its a good option to replace my Mres per level Glyphs for asp ones.
Also, Killing Blue as fast as possible without smite and then rushing to enemy red and kill it before it comes, is it possible?
Edit: With a mastery book of 17-13 and a Rune book of 13armor(+2 From mastery)/5.1%Asp(+4% from mastery)/10ArPen(+2 and 10% From mastery)/+6% Lifesteal(+3% from mastery) i:
-Killed Blue golem with Boots+3boots at 2:20 (No Smite, No leash)
-Killed Red golem at 2:50 (With Smite)
Not much hp left between the two (because of the lack of leash), had to use 1 pot in blue and 2 in red to still be at green levels of health. So what do you think, Getting blue and Stealing enemy red as fast as possible can be done? I believe with leash i would only need 2 pots and depending on how much damage my team helps me with blue i could shave off 3-5 secs of that kill.
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Would it be a good idea to get a ward when starting,ward their red, take your blue and wolves then go once you see them taking red for the steal?
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The lack of a second/third potion (If you take boots) could be dangerous to you, and invading so early its also dangerous since most people will be cautious before the minions spawn and everyone takes their position.
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FenixR Wrote:So about how much Armor pen a jungler should have including that 10% you gain from masteries?
I have been reading than having more than 10 is a waste and i should buy 3 asp marks. Also seeing if its a good option to replace my Mres per level Glyphs for asp ones.
Also, Killing Blue as fast as possible without smite and then rushing to enemy red and kill it before it comes, is it possible?
Edit: With a mastery book of 17-13 and a Rune book of 13armor(+2 From mastery)/5.1%Asp(+4% from mastery)/10ArPen(+2 and 10% From mastery)/+6% Lifesteal(+3% from mastery) i:
-Killed Blue golem with Boots+3boots at 2:20 (No Smite, No leash)
-Killed Red golem at 2:50 (With Smite)
Not much hp left between the two (because of the lack of leash), had to use 1 pot in blue and 2 in red to still be at green levels of health. So what do you think, Getting blue and Stealing enemy red as fast as possible can be done? I believe with leash i would only need 2 pots and depending on how much damage my team helps me with blue i could shave off 3-5 secs of that kill.
....you...changed...your...opinion...
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I have been wanting to make a specialized Jungle page since i decided to spend my next won IP's in 2 or 3 rune pages + Extra Runes. I still have the lifesteal in there but i wanted to see if i had too much Arpen and or Mres per level. I know that 13 armor is way too important to not get killed in the jungle and the lifesteal its a bonus to stay up most of the time and go B less.
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