Bleach Manga thread (SPOILERS)

Well, the quincy "Bankai" is actually a pretty double edged sword. Once they activate it, they lose the ability to be able to use their powers for a long time. The Quincy Bankai buffs them to the point where they're well passed captain level though, in terms of reiatsu, raw power, and speed.

so... wouldnt that basically make it a FTG? but just for everyone that is a quincy?

Well, the quincy "Bankai" is actually a pretty double edged sword. Once they activate it, they lose the ability to be able to use their powers for a long time. The Quincy Bankai buffs them to the point where they're well passed captain level though, in terms of reiatsu, raw power, and speed.

I severely doubt that this is the case as either they've learned to retain their powers such as ichigo with final getsuga, or the king can just give them their powers back if they activate their "bankai". This dude seems too confident for his powers to disappear like that.

I doubt this is anything close to Ishida's ultimate attack against Mayuri. I'm willing to bet this is something new.

And what the heck is up with Japan and their fetish to turn "Angel" or "holy" based characters into the bad guys?. Their attempt for originality has become unoriginal.

Wow, interesting development.

Wow, interesting development.

I didn't really feel that anything substancial came from this chapter. I saw that whole absorbing reshi thing coming, although I guess it was cool that we learned why Ishida is different...although we still need more information on why he choose to be less powerful. Idk who that giant hollow was at the end either.

I didn't really feel that anything substancial came from this chapter. I saw that whole absorbing reshi thing coming, although I guess it was cool that we learned why Ishida is different...although we still need more information on why he choose to be less powerful. Idk who that giant hollow was at the end either.

In the aizen arc. its the big fusion thing of the 3 sisters that the Gotei commander had to slice in half to save the vice captains.

Why I say it's interesting is because of how strong it makes them, ichigo couldn't even cut him with his blade, then able to absorb such a large amount reishi that clearly was overwhelming them all was suddenly stopped by the hollow that was so easily defeated? Power up much..

So once again we're at ichigo being vulnerable and having to power up.

Ichigo was still using his shikai though. Almost for the entirety of the Aizen arc, he was using bankai.

Ichigo was still using his shikai though. Almost for the entirety of the Aizen arc, he was using bankai.

This is true. He couldn't cut that guy, but he could still pretty easily detect his movements and stop his blade.

Then why didn't he just go bankai . Typically ichigo is all relaxed but it seemed to me that even his bankai would be overwhelmed.

Then why didn't he just go bankai . Typically ichigo is all relaxed but it seemed to me that even his bankai would be overwhelmed.

Ichigo isn't stupid and naive anymore. He still remembered that Ivan was surprised he could still use Bankai, I'm pretty sure he has a feeling that the Quincies can somehow effect his bankai.

Ichigo isn't stupid and naive anymore. He still remembered that Ivan was surprised he could still use Bankai, I'm pretty sure he has a feeling that the Quincies can somehow effect his bankai.

I think you're giving him too much credit but we'll see

While I think Ichigo is still kind of stupid, I do agree that he thinks the Quincy can do something to effect his bankai. Regardless, if he doesn't try to go bankai, he seems to be kind of f'ucked. There are only so many occaisons where a super hollow can save his ass.

Ichigo isn't stupid and naive anymore. He still remembered that Ivan was surprised he could still use Bankai, I'm pretty sure he has a feeling that the Quincies can somehow effect his bankai.

I also think you're overthinking it. This seems to be the common case in shonnen where the characters do nothing / get beaten up for testing purposes. He's just testing the guy and sizing his strength, so then he can be all like "so this is all you can do? such a pity, I hoped I could enjoy our fight a bit more". Nonetheless, If Quincys really could master that ability to gather spirit energy from the enviroment and use it as weapon, then I can't Ichigo or anyone else winning this without a great power up.

Why does Japan like to make Angels into Sadistic psychopaths?

Why does Japan like to make Angels into Sadistic psychopaths?

To be true Jusice would be unforgiving and have an egotistical complex that matches god. Demons are just honest and are purpose made more relatable as they try to portray the message humanity is evil.

That's my take on it. God's a b`itch, deal with it

To be true Jusice would be unforgiving and have an egotistical complex that matches god. Demons are just honest and are purpose made more relatable as they try to portray the message humanity is evil.

That's my take on it. God's a b`itch, deal with it

You don't know much about Christianity... or your nearest priest sucks.

You don't know much about Christianity... or your nearest priest sucks.

You don't get it, it's a critique of the system in which monotheistic religions' moral values are based on. The thought that angel's are purely good, and that demon's are purely bad is a naive one. Manga and Anime aren't the only things that see angels and demons that way, tons of stuff like that are in popular literature and the like in the West as well.

You don't get it, it's a critique of the system in which monotheistic religions' moral values are based on. The thought that angel's are purely good, and that demon's are purely bad is a naive one. Manga and Anime aren't the only things that see angels and demons that way, tons of stuff like that are in popular literature and the like in the West as well.

I know that you can't expect Angels or religious figures to be good all the time, much less in TV or cinema, but even though I don't watch much anime, most of the shows I can take off the top of my head use these figures as antagonists.

I guess I should have said Japanese don't know much about christianity instead.

I guess I should have said Japanese don't know much about christianity instead.

That's a pretty bold assumption to make.

Tony Kushner's play, Perestroika had an angel that was a sort of antagonist.

Also that movie that came out last year, Legion or whatever, those angels didn't exactly look like protagonists.

Imo, angels are not always good.

That's a pretty bold assumption to make.

Tony Kushner's play, Perestroika had an angel that was a sort of antagonist.

Also that movie that came out last year, Legion or whatever, those angels didn't exactly look like protagonists.

Imo, angels are not always good.

Again, I know that, I just bothers me a little that the lastest shows that I've watched that take some religious elements, like angels, use them as antagonists. I'm saying Japanese might not know much about christianity based on that fact and that I havent watched any anime that potrays it in a good way since Rurouni Kenshin. All right well, I don't watch as much anime as the guys in the current anime thread so I might be wrong.

Again, I know that, I just bothers me a little that the lastest shows that I've watched that take some religious elements, like angels, use them as antagonists. I'm saying Japanese might not know much about christianity based on that fact and that I havent watched any anime that potrays it in a good way since Rurouni Kenshin. All right well, I don't watch as much anime as the guys in the current anime thread so I might be wrong.

It's not a question of understanding religions, it's challenging the perspective of "pure" and "good". Angels are universally seen as "good", but in perspective maybe that self image makes them unpure. Psychotic for the name of their own personal Justice. Look at deathnote, Kira was considered a God, his intentions were pure, and on the cover, yeah reasonable. But as the story progressed you find such decisions are much more complex and harder to draw the line.

I don't know the right way to put it, but in a sense they are just extremists, shinigami essentially "purge" hollows and recyle them, quincy outright obliterate them that f`ucks up the balance. So you can see, their decisions are nothing but black and white, like most "angel's" judgement would be.

And if I recall there wasn't any real "encounter" with an Angel in the bible, or not the ones you're describing anyway.