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Should I re-cube my Empress Overall?
#1
I'm a Shadower and my overall looks like this:
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Those lines look fancy but...

Should I re-cube it for %luk, or keep this to solo bosses?
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#2
Recube. Shadowers already have high survivability.
Bottom line is useless and I don't think the middle would be noticeable all that much.
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#3
Use a potential lock on the first line if anything.
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#4
Depends on what the rest of your gear looks like, to be honest. Do you have anything else you want to cube, or is this it?
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#5
MrTouchnGo Wrote:Depends on what the rest of your gear looks like, to be honest. Do you have anything else you want to cube, or is this it?

I have a Dkhan and cape that I still need to cube (and a db mask or something in the distant future). Other than that I'm pretty well set.
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#6
Yea, recube it. Shads already have a lot of i-frames anyways from BS and shifter.
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#7
Takebacker Wrote:Use a potential lock on the first line if anything.

he's a shad, i' think second line's more useful than the first one.
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#8
ShinkuDragon Wrote:he's a shad, i' think second line's more useful than the first one.

Nah i don't care what class you are +2 iframes are always useful.
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#9
Takebacker Wrote:Nah i don't care what class you are +2 iframes are always useful.

>paladins

:U
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#10
Sure why not lol
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#11
What's your avoid like buffed? I rarely get hit with ~8.5k so the invincibility frames would be pretty much useless. I'd cube for %LUK.
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#12
%luk.
You'd be okay if that was on a top and you could get a bottom that was %luk, but since it's your empress overall, I don't think so. You're already losing a lot of possible %luk by going with an overall in the first place.
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#13
Raul Wrote:%luk.
You'd be okay if that was on a top and you could get a bottom that was %luk, but since it's your empress overall, I don't think so. You're already losing a lot of possible %luk by going with an overall in the first place.

Full empress set bonus > top + bot luk and it's cheaper on cubes/nebulites.
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#14
Takebacker Wrote:Sure why not lol

>too obsessed w/ i frames
>doesnt realize if you dont get hit, you dont need i frames

status reduction is better for thieves, they get all misses anyways. less sed time = more attack time
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#15
Obsessed with survivability. Not iframes.

Why are we assuming what i realize and don't realize? Paladins don't never get hit, just like the majority of thieves. Just because i would keep such a line on an item doesn't mean you need to agree.
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#16
Takebacker Wrote:Obsessed with survivability. Not iframes.

Why are we assuming what i realize and don't realize? Paladins don't never get hit, just like the majority of thieves. Just because i would keep such a line on an item doesn't mean you need to agree.

Pretty sure Shads have about 75% chance not to be hit with Fake and max avoid. Add that to the fact that with Bstep and Edge Carnival combo they can sustain being invincible for what appears to be forever (using bstep+muspelheim to move to counter 200 attack thing).
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#17
The chances of most shadowers getting hit twice within 3 seconds without iframes are tiny, I only have ~3.3k avoid and it rarely happens to me. If you look at the numbers for attack speed, and assuming you're invincible for the duration of bstep's delay, you get between 900 and 1120 ms of vulnerability within 3 seconds of being hit while using bstep+SB depending on when u get hit, effectively making the potential line only half as effective as it is for most other classes even before you include shadower's high avoid and shifter. Also, for the occasional super-KB attack, you can't move for an extra 2 seconds (personally, I'd only use that potential on classes with stance effects not including infinity just because of this).

tl;dr; 1st line is close to worthless on a shadower.
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#18
Takebacker Wrote:Obsessed with survivability. Not iframes.

Why are we assuming what i realize and don't realize? Paladins don't never get hit, just like the majority of thieves. Just because i would keep such a line on an item doesn't mean you need to agree.

about paladins, they lose by getting iframes, since it's less chances to activate their bonus attack.
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#19
ShinkuDragon Wrote:about paladins, they lose by getting iframes, since it's less chances to activate their bonus attack.

Just like pirates "lose out" by not tripping pirate's revenge. Russellon's potions or not that doesn't change anything for me. Divine shield has such a high proc rate as it is anyway. This is just a nice extra buffer for when it and guardian fails to proc.
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#20
ShinkuDragon Wrote:>paladins

:U

Another kick in my holy balls.
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