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Already beat you to it, Phoenix. Moved on to league of legends awhile ago. Not sure why I haven't been hit yet, though. May have something to do with my email address not being a 'standard' one, in combination with a bizarre pw. IDK....
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My son's account just got hacked.
Only had evolving rings on it. Still not pleasant.
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Kirov Wrote:I dont see the problem then. You couldnt allow any other forms of trading or the item would be pointless.
EE/potential to explode.
Owner always loses.
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One of my 'mules' got hacked about one/two weeks ago, it's actually a friends character which hasn't been played since shortly after 4th job was released, I've just started using it as a mule this year.
There was nothing great on it but the hacker stole CLEAN level 80 thief top/bottom and about 8-10 ilbis. It was in channel 16 (where all their stores are) and it wasn't on for long.
I have some inactive guildies and buddies that have been hacked, I notice the characters logging back on every few weeks too.
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DamageCalc Wrote:EE/potential to explode.
Owner always loses.
...I'm pretty sure it's already been said that you can't EE/potential locked items.
Edit: Here we go.
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Raul Wrote:The problem is if nexon suddenly comes out with some new potential tier or scroll, you're f'ucked. I know half my good items (more really) are just flat out untradeable in GMS. I dont lock them because first I dont care that much about his equips anymore and second because if someone wants to spite me by destroying everything I have, locks wont stop them, theyll just delete my char or something.
Locks stopped protecting char deletion, right?
I don't know if item locks ever did prevent char deletion in GMS.
However, according to Orange Mushroom's blog:
http://orangemushroom.wordpress.com/2012...#more-2780
Quote:Characters with locked items cannot be deleted! This is really cool, now I have to keep at least one thing locked at all times haha.
So apparently in KMS(t) they do now prevent char deletion.
Since there would be no point to this if locked items could be moved to other characters in the same account, this sort of implies that locked items cannot be moved within account in KMS, at least as of this latest patch. Can anyone familiar with KMS confirm?
This means anyone with locked items who shares them between characters will want to move them to their main character before whichever update removes the ability to move locked items within the account.
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Will have to ask KMSers about that. I wouldn't put it past Nexon to leave the ability to move locked items around in the game.
To prevent deletion of a specific character you'd have to lock a fully untradeable item (like, say, a medal).
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My friend got hacked in between April 1st-5th. She hadn't played MS for over a year. We noticed about it because her level was showing in our guild's members list so we called her and asked her to check. Worst part of it all is, the pineappleing hackers felt the need to drop her Beta Banada just for the joy of it.
I seriously don't get if these are just professional hackers doing it to get mesos to sell or just huge jerks that do it for fun. Maybe both >_>
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MissingLink Wrote:I don't know if item locks ever did prevent char deletion in GMS.
However, according to Orange Mushroom's blog:
http://orangemushroom.wordpress.com/2012...#more-2780
So apparently in KMS(t) they do now prevent char deletion.
Since there would be no point to this if locked items could be moved to other characters in the same account, this sort of implies that locked items cannot be moved within account in KMS, at least as of this latest patch. Can anyone familiar with KMS confirm?
This means anyone with locked items who shares them between characters will want to move them to their main character before whichever update removes the ability to move locked items within the account.
SaptaZapta Wrote:Will have to ask KMSers about that. I wouldn't put it past Nexon to leave the ability to move locked items around in the game.
To prevent deletion of a specific character you'd have to lock a fully untradeable item (like, say, a medal).
Yeah, theyre handing out itemlocks if you change your pw too. Gonna lock my time traveler circlet asap.
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Raul Wrote:Yeah, theyre handing out itemlocks if you change your pw too.
Finally! They realised that they should've provided their customers with a FREE method to protect themselves from hackings.
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Combattente Wrote:Finally! They realised that they should've provided their customers with a FREE method to protect themselves from hackings.
Kinda.
They're doing it as a PW change campaign because people are getting hacked like no one's business. I guess their philosophy has become that if they can't keep people from getting hacked, at least they can minimize the damage done.
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The fact that Nexam keeps coming with all these 2x, 3x, 4x... events just makes me think that they'll never be able to fix the account hacking spree. Ever.
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Muppy Wrote:The fact that Nexam keeps coming with all these 2x, 3x, 4x... events just makes me think that they'll never be able to fix the account hacking spree. Ever.
Seems to be more because so many people are quitting due to the overall state of the game.
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Justin Wrote:I don't believe you can anymore.
There was a rumour around that e-mail ID's were safer. Did anyone who got hacked randomly have an email user ID?
I'm not a computer-technical person, but by reading Eos' explanation, would the rationale behind having an email user ID be safer relate to the account packets in question being extrapolated (if say, the theory was true)?
Eos Wrote:Id's aren't random. All you'd need to do is understand how the packet in question related to the account it brought back and extrapolate it to use on other characters by simple incrementation and guesswork. Tedious, but going account by account will eventually strike it rich.
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Promised Wrote:I'm not a computer-technical person, but by reading Eos' explanation, would the rationale behind having an email user ID be safer relate to the account packets in question being extrapolated (if say, the theory was true)?
No.
Whether you use your user name, or your email address, those are just dummy mnemonics that point to your user id. Your user ID is a number, set in stone, identifying your account. The other two, regardless of which you use, are just semantic aliases for that user id. If someone can access your account via the user id it doesn't matter what the alias is, they're going directly passed it.
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Eos Wrote:No.
Whether you use your user name, or your email address, those are just dummy mnemonics that point to your user id. Your user ID is a number, set in stone, identifying your account. The other two, regardless of which you use, are just semantic aliases for that user id. If someone can access your account via the user id it doesn't matter what the alias is, they're going directly passed it.
Thanks for clarifying.
That does make sense. I do not remember what Nexon's message was back then about the user ID being a unique ID etc. etc. to discourage you from disabling it and switching to logging in with e-mail.
Furthermore, 2 well-known "merchants" claimed/observed their/other accounts who were breached did not have e-mail user names. I suppose that's how the rumour started.
It was worth a shot. I suppose there's nothing we can really do then. As someone said: Sitting ducks...
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Promised Wrote:Thanks for clarifying.
That does make sense. I do not remember what Nexon's message was back then about the user ID being a unique ID etc. etc. to discourage you from disabling it and switching to logging in with e-mail.
Furthermore, 2 well-known "merchants" claimed/observed their/other accounts who were breached did not have e-mail user names. I suppose that's how the rumour started.
It was worth a shot. I suppose there's nothing we can really do then. As someone said: Sitting ducks...
I heard the same about e-mail IDs being safer and considered switching over after the MTS leak. Never did, and I haven't been hacked... yet. Although judging from Eos' response that's more due to me being lucky as hell.
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MrTouchnGo Wrote:I heard the same about e-mail IDs being safer and considered switching over after the MTS leak. Never did, and I haven't been hacked... yet.
Intuitively (to me, at least), it doesn't make sense that email user ID would be safer because if somehow the user ID is to be leaked again, whoever looking at the information will already know your email.
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Promised Wrote:Furthermore, 2 well-known "merchants" claimed/observed their/other accounts who were breached did not have e-mail user names. I suppose that's how the rumour started.
It was worth a shot. I suppose there's nothing we can really do then. As someone said: Sitting ducks...
I would guess 99%+ of all accounts don't use emails - after all, it's generally longer to type, and you have to go to the trouble of setting it up. Only the group that was forced to would have them for the most part.
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