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Just for notice, CoolerMaster presented the new Silencio 650 PC Case at CeBit.
No price details known yet, but should be around the same price as the 550, maybe a little higher.
Just so you know.
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Which of the laptops from this store should I buy? If none, which one from another retailer should I be investing in for a similar price range?
http://www.dakotapcwarehouse.com/laptops.htm
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2012-03-08, 04:53 AM
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Zelkova Wrote:I am looking for assistance with identifying the BEST parts for my money.
Things I want help with distinguishing would be like...
-Is buying AMD's bulldozer worth the money? Would it be wiser to just buy a Phenom II? How about an quad i7 gen 2?
-Graphics cards are a plus. I know that Eos bought a really fancy one recently. (Can't find the post easily, I am at work). Would it be wiser to crossfire with some cheaper cards than 1 really good one?
What is your current budget?:
$2000ish, this is MOSTLY theoretical.
What part are you looking for? Why do you need it?:
The whole shebang. I am looking to replace my old desktop I built in high school.
What parts are in your current computer? Be as specific as possible. Links to Newegg/Tigerdirect are best. If you have a pre-built, include the make and model.
This will be built from scratch. I am using Amazon to purchase parts. (Good SP referral credit, yeah?).
How do you intend to use this new part or new computer? What's the heaviest load it's likely to encounter?
Probably rendering video.
If you live anywhere other than the United States, please indicate your country.
What are you looking for in a case? What peripherals do you need? Are you going to require purchase of an OS? Does the budget include monitor? Are you going to be gaming on it?
Sans monitor, peripherals, and OS. Half of this is probably not on amazon, but if you're really set on amazon only then there are definitely alternatives.
Part list permalink / Part price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($299.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($81.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock P67 Extreme4 Gen3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($178.49 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($88.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($115.21 @ eCost)
Hard Drive: Crucial M4 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($83.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 580 3GB Video Card ($539.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair 600T White Graphite ATX Mid Tower Case ($165.68 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222AL/BSBS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1714.31
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
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Case-wise I am unsure what I would want, as it would vary depending on the mobo. Im sure I will probably just get a mid tower ATX of some sort.
Peripherals I have taken care of. I might get a das keyboard down the road, but for now I am set.
I would like to get a monitor, however I do have an old 19in acer laying about that I can use for now.
OS is taken care of. DeVry gives me free versions of Windows to use.
Yes, I will be gaming. Haha!
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Zelkova Wrote:[MENTION=1544]danparkk[/MENTION]
Case-wise I am unsure what I would want, as it would vary depending on the mobo. Im sure I will probably just get a mid tower ATX of some sort.
Peripherals I have taken care of. I might get a das keyboard down the road, but for now I am set.
I would like to get a monitor, however I do have an old 19in acer laying about that I can use for now.
OS is taken care of. DeVry gives me free versions of Windows to use.
Yes, I will be gaming. Haha!
Haha well then this is a pretty decent monitor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6824160062.
You could always wait until Ivy Bridge drops, which is probably in April.
If you don't, the 2600k is great for video editing (which is also why I put in 16GB of RAM) and the Noctua will allow you to O/C to 5+ without breaking a sweat.
The RAM is low-profile, so it doesn't look ridiculous. (BIG PLUS IN MY BOOK)
The storage HDD is one of the best non-SSD's on the market, quiet and great.
The SSD you can use for your OS/games.
nVidia is the way to go for graphic work (at least from what my knowledgeable friends tell me) and that card is a MONSTER.
I love Corsair's cases, I have the 400R and my friend has the 600T. Easy to set-up, good airflow, and they are pretty 
The PSU is amazing, modular and gold rated. SeaSonic is one of the top PSU brands.
Also, my das professional is probably the best investment I have ever made even though I hate spending for frivolous things!
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CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($81.99 @ Amazon)
-> Scythe Mugen 2 Rev. B -> Cools better and is a lot cheaper then the Noctua.
Motherboard: ASRock P67 Extreme4 Gen3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($178.49 @ Newegg)
-> Don't get a P67 chipset, get the newer Z68 Chipset, especially when you're working with video (transcoding). The iGPU on the 2600k is about 2x as fast with transcoding as the 2600k itself. And only the Z68 can access it for transcoding while the P68 can't.
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($139.99 @ Newegg)
-> I still would suggest using a 1000watt PSU, 650watt is too low if you want to go AMD Crossfire or Nvidia SLI with two videocards. The 1kW from Coolermaster is also modular and has the same price.
Haha well then this is a pretty decent monitor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6824160062
-> Dell 2412 24" IPS is better then this one, it's also 16:10 instead of 16:9 like this one.
You could always wait until Ivy Bridge drops, which is probably in April
-> Ivy Bridge is too expensive for it's performance (unless you're a performance freak...). Yes, it's faster (10%~20%) but about twice the cost, if not 3 or 4 times on the most expensive Ivy Bridge CPU.
nVidia is the way to go for graphic work (at least from what my knowledgeable friends tell me) and that card is a MONSTER
-> Nvidia cards also have my preference, especially since their drivers are updated a lot.
I love Corsair's cases, I have the 400R and my friend has the 600T. Easy to set-up, good airflow, and they are pretty
-> Corsair cases are REALLY good (if not best in market) but their price is REALLY high. But, if you want a REALLY good case, they're worth it. Otherwise, just go with the Coolermaster Silencio series.
--> And yeah, IF you buy the PC internal tech things, buy them all together at once. You can buy the non-tech stuff sooner or later though.
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Not sure where you've seen that mugen 2 outperforms the nh-d14, but to each their own.
Sorry, should've been the z68 version; http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-moth...treme4gen3
That PSU is more than enough for the set-up I have above. Putting two 580s in SLI is a bit overkill...
The SeaSonic is fully modular and is always recommended.
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danparkk Wrote:Not sure where you've seen that mugen 2 outperforms the nh-d14, but to each their own. My bad, I thought you were talking about the Noctua NH-C14.
The D14 is another cooler, which cools just a little better then the Mugen 2 (D14 has two fans, Mugen 2 has only 1). But only by a small margin (2~3 degrees).
Same story as with the Sandy Bridge (2600k) vs Ivy Bridge CPU. Yes, better performance, for twice the price: 35 euro -vs- 70 euro...
Quote:That PSU is more than enough for the set-up I have above. Putting two 580s in SLI is a bit overkill...
The SeaSonic is fully modular and is always recommended.
Well, I rather have a quality 1kW PSU then quality 650Watt PSU, so -IF- you ever decide to buy 2 high end videocards, you don't have to replace your current 650watt PSU...
Both PSU's are excellent, so there is only the full modular -vs- 90% modular left. But since you always have to connect your 24pins cable, it's all the same to me.
It's all a matter of making choices, money saved on internal PC peripherals, can be spend on a better monitor / graphics card!
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Haha I understand, but the SeaSonic would have to be quality++ for this to be true 
I do doubt that he'll pick up another 580 though, that would be interesting.
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guys, thoughts on the late 2011 envy 15 ? im getting it mainly for school.
specs of the model im getting :
i7-2670QM 2.2GHz,
8GB3 Ram,
750 GB HDD 7200 rpm,
ATI Radeon HD 7690M with 1GB,
im going to mainly use it for programming(school), rendering high-res photos/photoshop(leisure) and maplestory... it costs about 1.7k after school subsidy(whereas it is 2.3k before subsidy). I can afford it now but looking at what im going to do with it, should i tone down with the specs and get another much cheaper laptop that can handle both activities smoothly or is this just enough for it ?
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DeanNim Wrote:guys, thoughts on the late 2011 envy 15 ? im getting it mainly for school.
specs of the model im getting :
i7-2670QM 2.2GHz,
8GB3 Ram,
750 GB HDD 7200 rpm,
ATI Radeon HD 7690M with 1GB,
im going to mainly use it for programming(school), rendering high-res photos/photoshop(leisure) and maplestory... it costs about 1.7k after school subsidy(whereas it is 2.3k before subsidy). I can afford it now but looking at what im going to do with it, should i tone down with the specs and get another much cheaper laptop that can handle both activities smoothly or is this just enough for it ?
Though HP laptops are competitively priced, I tend to avoid them because not only do they have bad press about their lifespan, everyone who I know who's owned one has had nothing but problems with them after about 8 months or so.
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BlankShot Wrote:Though HP laptops are competitively priced, I tend to avoid them because not only do they have bad press about their lifespan, everyone who I know who's owned one has had nothing but problems with them after about 8 months or so.
i bought the envy15
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Though I do hope to upgrade my '03 system sometime, the money's not in the works for that yet. I have something related to computers though that I'd hope to find some sort of help on here. I need to purchase a keyboard tray for my desk, and finding any sort of advice or even a physical retailer of the things has proven nigh impossible. Going to Fry's only got me a link to an unrelated website and completely uneducated guesses about what it even was I was looking for. To make matters worse, this particular desk has a support beam right near the front edge creating a lip that makes simple drawer types unuseable. Here's a basic paint image of the layout with how large the bars are (sorry if it isn't legible).
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I have a 20x8 keyboard and I need to keep the mouse on the tray as well. The thing has to be sturdy and doesn't have to have too much flexibility as the last one I had had several years ago actually fell apart (the arm drooped) because it had been moved too much. Wrist pad is a plus. Has to store away enough so that I can use the front 10 inches on top of the desk for paperwork and such. I have a dual monitor setup, so I will occasionally remove the keyboard and mouse from the tray and move back 5 feet to use my TV as a monitor. As a gamer, the mouse-pad has to be able to take a lot of force itself, so not simply be loosely attached. I also want the tray to be slightly off center, but not angled (IE I want to have the keyboard dead center with where I am sitting and the center of the desk/monitor, but the mouse to be intentionally offset to the right). Looking to spend around $180, but willing to go up another $30 if need be.
Considering my lack of knowledge on the subject, I've just fallen back on a website I am well acquainted with and found these few options that I think might work.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6848007466
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6826998144
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6848007186
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6848007317
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6826998066
But there are basically no reviews of these products, so I've no idea how to judge. More than that, without a physical outlet, I really can't tell if they behave the way they look to behave.
More on topic: Several years ago when I thought I could upgrade my computer, I was looking at the AMD Phenom III Black 955 (I think). I haven't researched at all lately due to knowing I can't afford things anyway, but how has that stood the test of time, and what would be a current comparison to that processor if I was considering it 16 months after it was first released?
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Fiel Wrote:We need to know the following information to help you as fast as possible.
What is your current budget?:
$700 or less
What part are you looking for? Why do you need it?:
New laptop. Old one's motherbord broke or something.
What parts are in your current computer? Be as specific as possible. Links to Newegg/Tigerdirect are best. If you have a pre-built, include the make and model.
Was a Lenovo SL510. Heres some generic stuff I found: http://www.lenovo.com/shop/americas/cont...asheet.pdf
Hope that helps.
How do you intend to use this new part or new computer? What's the heaviest load it's likely to encounter?
Homework and gaming mostly. Heaviest load will probably be kms or LoL running wih chrome and itunes up.
If you live anywhere other than the United States, please indicate your country.
N/a I feel like I should be more specific but I'll do some elaboration when I'm not on an iphone.
EDIT:
So my old computer was "good" but I felt like it had deteriorated a lot. I got it about 20 months ago, during July 2010, and had managed to crash the harddrive twice since then. It had pretty shi'tty RAM and tended to make my games crash a lot which resulted in bad things with LoL especially. It was also a huge heatsink and quite heavy. I want a computer that's pretty light and efficient, but still has good audio and visual for games and music, and has a decent amount of RAM (I think my old laptop had something like 2gb?). Oh, and I'd prefer it to be a Windows machine so I don't have to use a VM to run MS and LoL.
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Need help which one would be overall better for college work/gaming.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...llFullInfo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6834230265
I know the first one is sold out atm, but should I wait for that to restock or go after the 2nd laptop?
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Mario Wrote:Need help which one would be overall better for college work/gaming.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...llFullInfo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6834230265
I know the first one is sold out atm, but should I wait for that to restock or go after the 2nd laptop? Both are great for college work, but not for 3D gaming, unless you mean Maple.
So if it is gaming you seek, you should invest in a laptop with a better and modern graphics chip.
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Devil Wrote:Both are great for college work, but not for 3D gaming, unless you mean Maple.
So if it is gaming you seek, you should invest in a laptop with a better and modern graphics chip. 
According to reviews the 1st laptop can play skyrim on high settings sooo i'm assuming its enough for gaming. Same with the 2nd laptop. Only thing that throws me off is the difference between the ram and that 48% that viewed both products went with the 2nd one, which I have no idea why.
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Mario Wrote:According to reviews the 1st laptop can play skyrim on high settings sooo i'm assuming its enough for gaming. Same with the 2nd laptop. Only thing that throws me off is the difference between the ram and that 48% that viewed both products went with the 2nd one, which I have no idea why. Oh wait, something went wrong here on the link, now I see the first laptop has a AMD 6620G, that one is actually quite good value for money gaming wise.
For global comparision 12th place: http://community.futuremark.com/hardware/gpu (Uncheck Desktop and DirectX 9/10)
However, the second laptop uses the Intel HD Graphics with system RAM memory used as video memory and that together with Skyrim on high? No that's not going to work. Sure it will play Skyrim, but not fluently at all. That Asus notebook is not suited for gaming at all, if you're aiming for Skyrim.
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Since my thread got closed:
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/l...8a7840en02
Would this be good for running games like diablo 3 and dragon nest on low to medium? Also, is it worth the price?
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Raph589 Wrote:Since my thread got closed:
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/l...8a7840en02
Would this be good for running games like diablo 3 and dragon nest on low to medium? Also, is it worth the price? Game performance is -ALL- about the graphics chip these days, since almost all the CPU's are incredible powerful anyway.
That laptop uses the 525 (520-series) from nvidia, which is really the low end of the 500 series (and now they already have the new 600 series GPU's).
So no, don't get that laptop if you want decent gaming performance. Go for the brand-new GeForce 630m or 640m, they're the new mid-range GPU's with really good performance fpr the money. If you're willing to spend 700 dollars on a laptop, getting one of those is really recommended.
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