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The First Empress Cygnus Defeatd in KMS
CrazyForDex Wrote:I don't understand why you think a specific mindset for a video game spills over into real life. I play this game legitimately because that is how it was intended to be played, that is the challenge I can get from it, and that is why I originally picked it up, for fun. However, how you act and portray yourself in this game could be a representation of your morals or self, although that is quite a stretch imo.

Why would I want a medal from Nexon? They are a terrible company and if they gave me anything (short of free nx) I'd probably throw it out.

Edit: I'd like to say that most of us aren't complaining, we are just more blown away by the company that runs it and by the ridiculous mindset of the majority of the community. We are customers, many of us pay money for this game. Why shouldn't we have rational discussion while voicing our complaints?

So, if you play this game "legitimately" for fun, then what exactly are you complaining about and what do you think Nexon is going to do about it? Also, why do you care if he gets an empress weapon and some atk stuff from MTS to improve his pixels? Why can't you just mind your own business?
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FreeNoods Wrote:Actually, not accepting the game is exactly that, not accepting the game. It literally has zero to do with growing up, just being honest. That's your prerogative though, and kudos for it, all I'm saying is, this forum is turning into a disgusting pile of whiners who complain about everything.

I guess I have to spell this out for you too, no problem. Being adult means holding onto your principles sometimes, majority of the community adapted in order to continue having fun with the game. I kept to my principles and left. I will not ever play a nexon managed game again unless I see change. A child cannot accept change or let go, they adapt, an adult has the willpower to move on.

I grew up in a military family, I guess I was raised with empathy for other people. maplestory is a multiplayer game, those are real player you're playing with. You clearly can't fathom this if you're telling people to kill themselves over a disagreement on a forum.

Legitimacy? It's all opinionated, I don't believe of taking shortcuts that cut short on other players. I don't want them to have excuses of why I'm better than them.
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FreeNoods Wrote:So, if you play this game "legitimately" for fun, then what exactly are you complaining about and what do you think Nexon is going to do about it? Also, why do you care if he gets an empress weapon and some atk stuff from MTS to improve his pixels? Why can't you just mind your own business?

I'm not complaining about anything. I understand the current state of the game and I understand that if I post my complaints repeatedly on a fan forum nothing will come of it. The only people that can change this is Nexon and although I will continually voice my concerns and discuss things, I am content with waiting for now.

Why do I care you ask? I care for a lot of reasons, mainly that when people cheat in this game, it adversely affects me.

Read this thread, it should enlighten you on what my problems are with supporting duping and all forums of hacking.
http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=54130&page=7

If it's tl for you, then start with page 7.
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I know a lot of 12 year olds that hold onto their principles, it still does not correspond with growing up in the slightest. It's still a fine choice, but you can't group holding onto principles with maturity or growing up because they are not explicitly linked
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CrazyForDex Wrote:Read this thread, it should enlighten you on what my problems are with supporting duping and all forums of hacking.
http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=54130&page=7

If it's tl for you, then start with page 7.

I posted in that thread, on that page, in fact. I still agree with the Aran from Zenith, its not affecting your pixels, so why don't you enjoy the game with your "legit" friends in your "legit" corner of Maple?
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FreeNoods Wrote:I know a lot of 12 year olds that hold onto their principles, it still does not correspond with growing up in the slightest. It's still a fine choice, but you can't group holding onto principles with maturity or growing up because they are not explicitly linked

Maturity isn't determined by age.

...How about because my "legit" corner is being map crashed, being dc hacked, server crashed, clicking stores that lock your character until next SC, ks me, and glitching my maps.
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KhainiWest Wrote:Maturity isn't determined by age.

Exactly my point. Also, how can your legit corner be getting DC hacked and map crashed when you don't play? you dealing with some real life DC hackers mang?
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FreeNoods Wrote:I posted in that thread, on that page, in fact. I still agree with the Aran from Zenith, its not affecting your pixels, so why don't you enjoy the game with your "legit" friends in your "legit" corner of Maple?

It does affect my pixels. You know those little gold coins that drop from well... everything? Oh yea, mesos right? Remember how in that thread there is a lengthy discussion of how when people hack and dupe, all inferior equips dramatically lose their value? Oh yea, that could actually affect some of the nice shiny pixels I have when I try to sell things. But wait! I could boss for better things, right? Wrong. The bosses that aren't broken drop basically worthless items and the items that should be worth my while to obtain are duped beyond recognition and spread out among my server until they are extremely cheap. Well I could just go train right? Sure I could, but with tons of overpowered people destroying LHC with hacked equips, even you have to admit that it is demotivating at least a little bit.

Please for just one second, take a step out of your own shoes and look at this situation from someone who wants to play the game correctly. I understand you don't give a s'hit and that you have trouble reading, but please.... just give it a try.
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But I thought you didn't go into the FM.... What if you were selling an item and *gasp* a hacker bought it with illegit mesos from a meso site? Bye bye 5 years of hard word for your "legitimacy"
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FreeNoods Wrote:Exactly my point. Also, how can your legit corner be getting DC hacked and map crashed when you don't play? you dealing with some real life DC hackers mang?

You're taking me too litterally. You say stay in our legit corner but the point I clearly defined to you is hackers proactively ruin our gameplay.

Grow up typically mean's to gain some more maturity, by "growing up" I'm saying, I matured, saw that fighting against it was pointless and left. Other people just succumbed to the peer pressure and temptation, which is immature itself, to play further.
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FreeNoods Wrote:But I thought you didn't go into the FM.... What if you were selling an item and *gasp* a hacker bought it with illegit mesos from a meso site? Bye bye 5 years of hard word for your "legitimacy"

There is no way to determine if straight meso were duped or legit so frankly, I could care less in that respect. It is not my concern if I am doing everything in my power to remain legit and people through their own means purchase my items. It's not like my whole maplestory world revolves around making sure I am 100% legit in every situation, but I do like to attempt to do so.

Stop nit-picking, it's getting pathetic.
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KhainiWest Wrote:You're taking me too litterally. You say stay in our legit corner but the point I clearly defined to you is hackers proactively ruin our gameplay.

Grow up typically mean's to gain some more maturity, by "growing up" I'm saying, I matured, saw that fighting against it was pointless and left. Other people just succumbed to the peer pressure and temptation, which is immature itself, to play further.

The game is broken by your definition, and I tend to agree with you, BUT that doesn't mean the game is actually broken. That all depends on who you ask! Quitting maplestory is nothing but personal preference, I'll be joining you in quitland shortly though Smile
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CrazyForDex Wrote:There is no way to determine if straight meso were duped or legit so frankly, I could care less in that respect. It is not my concern if I am doing everything in my power to remain legit and people through their own means purchase my items. It's not like my whole maplestory world revolves around making sure I am 100% legit in every situation, but I do like to attempt to do so.

Stop trying to troll me, it's getting pathetic.

Which is fine, i'm not trying to control your destiny, I'd appreciate it if you would stop trying to control everyone else's. Thats not a troll Smile
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FreeNoods Wrote:The game is broken by your definition, and I tend to agree with you, BUT that doesn't mean the game is actually broken. That all depends on who you ask! Quitting maplestory is nothing but personal preference, I'll be joining you in quitland shortly though Smile

Maplestory is a game that revolves on luck. Duping took away the risk of chance, the game is now broken. Perspective or opinion will not change that fact.
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FreeNoods Wrote:Which is fine, i'm not trying to control your destiny, I'd appreciate it if you would stop trying to control everyone else's. Thats not a troll Smile

Ah yes, silly me for trying to get people to stop cheating in an online game. What am I thinking.
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CrazyForDex Wrote:Ah yes, silly me for trying to get people to stop cheating in an online game. What am I thinking.

Thank you Jesus Mary and Joseph.I'd like to end this thread by thanking [MENTION=5068]Liteness[/MENTION]
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KhainiWest Wrote:Maplestory is a game that revolves on luck. Duping took away the risk of chance, the game is now broken. Perspective or opinion will not change that fact.

Actually, that all depends on your definition of broken. you can't turn opinions into facts because facts are agreed upon when opinions are not.
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FreeNoods Wrote:Actually, that all depends on your definition of broken. you can't turn opinions into facts because facts are agreed upon when opinions are not.

Every aspect of maplestory is dependent on luck, duplicating takes away any risk of whatever chance you are trying to take. Maplestory's plausible best gear is supposed to be a low possibility not a gurrantee. That is not an opinion it's a fact.
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That would be true if potential and cubes weren't out, but they are and have been for a long time
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FreeNoods Wrote:That would be true if potential and cubes weren't out, but they are and have been for a long time

...How exactly are cubes not a risk factor?
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