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Largest Maplestory hacking website being sued by Nexon America and Nexon Korea Corp.
Luxeraph Wrote:Do they actually put together the wimpy hackers with the murderers?
They may be in seperate cells depending on crimes, But come lunch time....
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Untradeable Wrote:They may be in seperate cells depending on crimes, But come bath time....

fixed.

being serious, it depends, i am not familiar with the US way of doing things, but don't they have several jails, and depending on what you did is which one you get sent to?
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For charges like this I doubt they'd get a fed pen...probably like state jail or something, which is a joke.
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ShinkuDragon Wrote:fixed.

being serious, it depends, i am not familiar with the US way of doing things, but don't they have several jails, and depending on what you did is which one you get sent to?

I think so, Depending on what crime you committed, Jail, Prison, Pennitentary, Alcatraz, the moon, 5th Dimension of the plane of torment, etc
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Flonne Wrote:"so, what are you in for?"
"making scripts for a children's game and stealing money from them..."
"I'm in for murdering a baby and eating his brain"
"oh...;_;"

If there's ever such a thing of Justice. That's it right there!
E-Thug meets Real Thug. Can't hack your way out of this pomegranate!

Would certainly put them in their place at least. Biggrin
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This is a Civil case, isn't it? Nexon vs whoever. Not criminal case of State vs whoever.
All you legal experts can correct me if I'm wrong, butt I'm pretty sure Nexon can't get people put in jail from a Civil case. They would have to convince the police to lay criminal charges.
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''The Doe Defendants''

Nexon won $750,000 in a previous lawsuit, I wonder how this will work out.
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iamflip Wrote:Of course, outsourcing security could work too. Except it hasn't as Hackshield hasn't really stopped anything.

Their paradigm is too flawed for outside correction. It's like trying to make a chain-link fence water-proof as fast as the builders can assemble it, without telling the crew that's trying to do it which segment of the fence the assemblers are going to be working on at any moment, or even where they already have worked.
It's not having what you want - It's wanting what you've got.
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MissingLink Wrote:This is a Civil case, isn't it? Nexon vs whoever. Not criminal case of State vs whoever.
All you legal experts can correct me if I'm wrong, butt I'm pretty sure Nexon can't get people put in jail from a Civil case. They would have to convince the police to lay criminal charges.

A civil case can become criminal if applicable, there are some "charges" that could escalate to that.
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CrazyNomad Wrote:and I heard bizzaro makes over 10k dollars/month by only selling his trainer.

lol10k

multiply that by 10 and you'll be in the right ball park
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KhainiWest Wrote:Just to clarify that I wasn't suggesting every hacker be hunted down and be prosecuted, that is ridiculous lol. My point was, for both posts, that even though this may take out a big head of the snake, unless they follow up on it in game, the damage is already done. Also the fear factor becomes a huge part of this as not only the distributors but the users might even become hesistant to risk this.
You misunderstood me.

I didn't say "Suing individuals for hacking is a losing battle" in an attempt to inform you of something that I believed you didn't know.
I assumed you knew it. That was the point.
Every rational player out there knows this.
So why you continue to say things like "the users might even become hesistant to risk this" is beyond me.
They know that the biggest threat they face is a ban.

Not that that matters hesitation will be a factor since most 'hackers' are simply using other people's code.
Once people stop updating the hacks, these people won't even have the option.

Despite all the jokes, Nexon actually does implement updates to block the offending programs, but, due to the structure of the game, it's only a matter of time before someone finds yet another bypass.
The point of this lawsuit is only to discourage/prevent someone from finding and sharing that bypass.

Untradeable Wrote:Not really, But there is a point where we need to move on and discuss other things.

SO HOW MUCH BUTTSEX WILL THEY GET IN PRISON WHEN THEYRE CONVICTED.

(my bet is going to be alot)
You're new here, so you probably aren't aware that you can only make graphic jokes about rectal insertion if the object being inserted is not part of another person.

MissingLink Wrote:This is a Civil case, isn't it? Nexon vs whoever. Not criminal case of State vs whoever.
All you legal experts can correct me if I'm wrong, butt I'm pretty sure Nexon can't get people put in jail from a Civil case. They would have to convince the police to lay criminal charges.
Heaven be praised!
Finally someone who's educated enough to not moronically suggest that the hackers will face jail time.

Yes, it most definitely is a civil matter.

KhainiWest Wrote:A civil case can become criminal if applicable, there are some "charges" that could escalate to that.
What charges in this case do you believe could be criminal?

Killed Wrote:lol10k

multiply that by 10 and you'll be in the right ball park
10,000 x 10 = 100,000
100,000 x 12 = 1,200,000

Somehow, I find your claim to be unreasonable.
...unless Bizarro is the 1%.
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So any idea on when this will actually proceed?
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Viaje Wrote:10,000 x 10 = 100,000
100,000 x 12 = 1,200,000

Somehow, I find your claim to be unreasonable.
...unless Bizarro is the 1%.

He makes a large sum of money.

A very large sum.

With a "license" costing $20-80 a month and a large subscription base it isn't all that surprising.
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Viaje Wrote:10,000 x 10 = 100,000
100,000 x 12 = 1,200,000

Somehow, I find your claim to be unreasonable.
...unless Bizarro is the 1%.

You can think it's unreasonable all you want.


It's still the truth.
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Killed Wrote:You can think it's unreasonable all you want.


It's still the truth.
Thank you for your extreme insider information as well as listing your sources.
I'm certain you're entirely credible.

Locked Wrote:He makes a large sum of money.

A very large sum.

With a "license" costing $20-80 a month and a large subscription base it isn't all that surprising.
I don't doubt that he makes a butt-ton of cash, but I find it improbable that someone is making a million dollars a year from such a venture.

Part of the reason I doubt this is because, if true, it certainly shouldn't have taken Nexon this long to deal with it.

Though, regardless of his income, Nexon is about to get a large part, if not all of it, back.
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Viaje Wrote:Thank you for your extreme insider information as well as listing your sources.
I'm certain you're entirely credible.


I don't doubt that he makes a butt-ton of cash, but I find it improbable that someone is making a million dollars a year from such a venture.

Part of the reason I doubt this is because, if true, it certainly shouldn't have taken Nexon this long to deal with it.

Though, regardless of his income, Nexon is about to get a large part, if not all of it, back.

They have two sites selling licenses. They sell licenses for GMS and MSEA. I don't have to try to prove to you that I'm credible, but you're just denying the fact that those numbers are the truth.
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Million a year? If the IRS hears about it, Nexon will be the least of his worries.
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Killed Wrote:They have two sites selling licenses. They sell licenses for GMS and MSEA. I don't have to try to prove to you that I'm credible, but you're just denying the fact that those numbers are the truth.

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Point being, dude makes bank. Moreso than many people believe.


MissingLink Wrote:Million a year? If the IRS hears about it, Nexon will be the least of his worries.
What says he is American?
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MissingLink Wrote:Million a year? If the IRS hears about it, Nexon will be the least of his worries.
I'm sure that a fine, upstanding citizen like this wouldn't dodge taxes.
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Viaje Wrote:Thank you for your extreme insider information as well as listing your sources.
I'm certain you're entirely credible.


I don't doubt that he makes a butt-ton of cash, but I find it improbable that someone is making a million dollars a year from such a venture.

Part of the reason I doubt this is because, if true, it certainly shouldn't have taken Nexon this long to deal with it.

Though, regardless of his income, Nexon is about to get a large part, if not all of it, back.

Last time I check how many subscribers he had it had been at 3,300 in June 2011. Multiply this number by a minimum of $20 a month and you have yourself a large sum of money which Nexon didn't do anything about.
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