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Nion Wrote:Its original name was that baby thing site which you might have heard about before.
And hopefully, this will help lower the hacker rate. That was the first site, the second was made by a member/hacker/idk what to describe him as of the first site.
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SaptaZapta Wrote:Seriously, that is the only possible reason they haven't filled those positions yet.
Either that or their HR department reads resumes at the same rate as their customer support read tickets.
I recall a member on SP applied there but they told him he was over qualified, but if I remember right they are offering entry level pay for these jobs even though majority require mutliple years of experience and a B/A
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SaptaZapta Wrote:If you read the article, Nexon is trying any law that could possibly be made to apply, hoping something hits:
Exactly. Big corporation trying to squash the little guy's freedom of speech.
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Those are the biggest MS hacking sites? Never heard of them. They aren't the ones that come up whenever I google something MS related.
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usually meso selling sites come up when i type something MS related....
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MissingLink Wrote:Those are the biggest MS hacking sites? Never heard of them. They aren't the ones that come up whenever I google something MS related.
that one maple hacking site who's name I am too stupid to know not to try to say because clearly I'm too dumb to read the rules on sharing hacking related links(lol at the censor) was the old baby site, riu kazaki isn't that big, but hes the one that release the public PE, his PE is the only one available to the public since big bang patch, so there's a lot of things to blame on him
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happylight Wrote:Exactly. Big corporation trying to squash the little guy's freedom of speech.
You should probably read what they are sueing for, it's completely justified and by no means "silencing the little guy"
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happylight Wrote:Nexon should NOT win this. Writing software that works in conjunction with other software should not be construed as copyright infringement. As much as I hate hacks on Maple, stuff like this is why we are against SOPA (trying to take down websites for poor reasons).
Nexon do not even have to win. A few years worth of processing will destory the poor fools on the other end. I can't imagine they would have close to the fundings needed to dance with a major corporation.
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happylight Wrote:Exactly. Big corporation trying to squash the little guy's freedom of speech.
Freedom of speech? That guy is doing something which can harm the company's earning in many ways, by hacking/creating hacks of multiple/one of the company products. Nexon has all reasons in the world to sue the website. It's not squashing someone's rights, Nexon has the right to do that, don't even drag SOPA in this case, which is not related in here.
Oh and this little guy who want freedom of speech, just deleted someone's thread in his forum and banned him for posting this article in the forum.
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Really hope that Nexon is also suing ____killer along with the baby site. Maple hacks aren't the only thing they distribute, and it would really help many other games if these sites were taken down and the owners/admins of said sites were IP banned.
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These type of cases will take a while before anything happens, we're talking months, maybe years. But it's safe to assume the court will side with Nexon. Though if things start to get heavy you might see that website shut down in a few months.
I guess that explains the domain name change recently.
Who knows what else Nexon gets out of this if/when they win this case. Besides money, they're probably looking for source code/scripts.
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Killmeplsok Wrote:Freedom of speech? That guy is doing something which can harm the company's earning in many ways, by hacking/creating hacks of multiple/one of the company products. Nexon has all reasons in the world to sue the website. It's not squashing someone's rights, Nexon has the right to do that, don't even drag SOPA in this case, which is not related in here.
Oh and this little guy who want freedom of speech, just deleted someone's thread in his forum and banned him for posting this article in the forum. '
SOPA is absolutely related because it's these exact situations within the grey area. However, what should be focused on is the later portion not related to copyright, but the litteral abuse and damage they deal to the game, which can't be justified under freedom of speech, rather vandalism.
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bast963 Wrote:Really hope that Nexon is also suing ____killer along with the baby site. Maple hacks aren't the only thing they distribute, and it would really help many other games if these sites were taken down and the owners/admins of said sites were IP banned.
GK is been dead for a long time, they leech all hacks from other sites.
IP ban won't help, riu stated many times nexon IP/mac banned him, and he still make hacks for maple.
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IP/mac banned wouldn't help much since he could just proxy.
happylight Wrote:Exactly. Big corporation trying to squash the little guy's freedom of speech.
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happylight Wrote:Exactly. Big corporation trying to squash the little guy's freedom of speech. Wat.
So its NOT in a company's best interest to try to avoid having their product exploited for profit while simultaniously ruining said product for the other customers who do not have access to these illigitemate enhancements?
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happylight Wrote:Exactly. Big corporation trying to squash the little guy's freedom of speech.
Lol'd.
Really impressed with Nexon here. How exactly is Gamersoul going to defend themselves? :o
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Untradeable Wrote:Wat.
So its NOT in a company's best interest to try to avoid having their product exploited for profit while simultaniously ruining said product for the other customers who do not have access to these illigitemate enhancements?
It is in their best interest but this is not the way to do it. No laws have been broken. If I wrote a software that improved the speed of Windows by 1000% and made a lot of money from it, should Microsoft be able to sue me? Nexon should not be able to dictate what software people run on their computer in conjunction with their software except by refusing service (banning). Just like Microsoft cannot tell me what software I choose to run on Windows. To do so WOULD be anticompetitive.
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happylight Wrote:It is in their best interest but this is not the way to do it. No laws have been broken. If I wrote a software that improved the speed of Windows by 1000% and made a lot of money from it, should Microsoft be able to sue me? Nexon should not be able to dictate what software people run on their computer in conjunction with their software except by refusing service (banning). Just like Microsoft cannot tell me what software I choose to run on Windows. To do so WOULD be anticompetitive. Yes, Actually Microsoft WOULD be able to sue you, Because you modified their code without their permission, and profited from it. THATS WHAT A COPYRIGHT IS. A copyright is in place to prevent other people from stealing the ideas, products, and usage of whatever is being copyright. Whats going on here is not comparable to your scenario. The hackers are not making Maplestory better, they're making it WORSE. They're ruining the entire game for people and not caring about it. The point also stands that Nexon's Terms of Service (Which you automatically agree to, regardless of if you read it or not when you sign up) Allows nexon to take whatever actions they deem nessicary to prevent this kind of thing from happening.
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happylight Wrote:It is in their best interest but this is not the way to do it. No laws have been broken. If I wrote a software that improved the speed of Windows by 1000% and made a lot of money from it, should Microsoft be able to sue me? Nexon should not be able to dictate what software people run on their computer in conjunction with their software except by refusing service (banning). Just like Microsoft cannot tell me what software I choose to run on Windows. To do so WOULD be anticompetitive.
article Wrote:Nexon seeks an injunction and damages for copyright infringement, inducement to infringe copyright, contributory copyright infringement, vicarious copyright infringement, trafficking in circumvention devices, unlawful circumvention, breach of contract, intentional interference with contractual relations, violation of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, and unfair competition
Those alone pretty much justify any intent to sue and have nothing to do with your statements
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This would be better news if they went after everyone who has ever visited this site and lined them up for a firing-squad.
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