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Rayquaza2233 Wrote:Outranged meaning exactly what it sounds like, the enemy carry you're laning against has more range than you do. Graves is the exception to this imo since he's Graves and Riot designed him to be a ranged tanky DPS which was moronic. Doran's Blades help you catch up when you're behind since they're cheaper and the extra HP is fairly helpful. If there are a lot of ADs on the other team get a Tabi, not a Wriggle's.
By your definition, caitlyn also "Outranges" trist until the mid-late game. The difference between the initial 550 vs cait 650 its huge in the beggining and iirc you need like 8 lvls or so to get the same range with trist.
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Corn Wrote:Man, there's nothing one can do against AD Sion Q_Q. I was first time jungling Irelia (with mah Chinese Nightblade skin hue hue hue) and I was owning pretty badly, but then their AD sion got fed.
Fed AD Sion > Fed AD Irelia
The end.
Fed AD Sion... can't ignore him or you'll die. Can't focus him or you'll die. Can't run away from him because you'll get stunned and die.
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Exhaust and ignite shut him down pretty hard. Ignite with it's 50% healing reduction, and exhaust because sion's ult heals off damage dealt.
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AD sion is pretty crap until late game. He's tryndamere with a worse early-mid but lagte he's more unkillable. I rarely see one get fed though since it's so hard to get kills on him without any items.
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lorx Wrote:Trist gets outranged by like everybody but graves early on lol.
550's benchmark for all ranged carries, again Graves is the exception because he's a ranged tanky DPS. One level and Trist has the advantage, yes I would probably recommend a Wriggle's against Cait.
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Viktor, son!
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How is Gangplank or Twisted Fate?
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lol LoL is still having issues? Oh lawdy xD
Meanwhile, my bro lent me his copy of Skyward Sword, so I'll be marathoning that shyt. Since I have good memory, I've been finding virtually everything without the dousing power so far. Fk yeah!
lorx Wrote:While I'm truly sorry that I do not have copyrights and trademarks on all the memes of the internet, I still do believe you took the post too seriously. For all the reasons you just stated, hilariously enough.
It is in my unending quest to stop the spread of misinformation, which isn't the same thing as disinformation, and someone else had a say in the idea of your frivolous suggestion, even if said suggestions was played so carelessly. That does not mean I stop to make a post for every single person that's wrong on the internet, as that would be far too time consuming. Nay, rather, I do this in places where I care the most. The bait that is a plausible suggestion buries the yellow brick road of optimum play. While the metagolem works for most tanky DPSes, people should not confuse the African bees with the European breeds. The devil is in the details!
I'm still not joking, if you're wondering.
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lorx Wrote:While I'm truly sorry that I do not have copyrights and trademarks on all the memes of the internet, I still do believe you took the post too seriously. For all the reasons you just stated, hilariously enough.
Maybe cause you passed it off as fact, when that was truly not the case...
Stop trying to act like you were only joking about it when you clearly weren't.
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Victor seems a little different after that IGN pre-release thing, am I remembering it wrong or did gravity field's upgrade used to make the stun happen faster?
Will Wrote:How is Gangplank or Twisted Fate?
GP's pretty good, I haven't seen a TF recently that did well enough to prove he was worth picking though. So I dunno where he stands.
KajitiSouls Wrote:It is in my unending quest to stop the spread of misinformation, which isn't the same thing as disinformation, and someone else had a say in the idea of your frivolous suggestion, even if said suggestions was played so carelessly. That does not mean I stop to make a post for every single person that's wrong on the internet, as that would be far too time consuming. Nay, rather, I do this in places where I care the most. The bait that is a plausible suggestion buries the yellow brick road of optimum play. While the metagolem works for most tanky DPSes, people should not confuse the African bees with the European breeds. The devil is in the details!
I'll be sure to add a giant "just kidding" stamp to some of my posts then, just to make sure that even if I post a build with two merc treads, it won't be taken seriously.
I'd understand the "It's obvious you were being serious omg" if I didn't use an obvious meme, FotM cliche, and a build with two merc treads. Two boots! Metagolem! That alone is a giant stamp of "jk". I can't figure out why that's being taken seriously by anybody.
But I digress, there's no point in me bickering over your opinion of my post. LoL thread, not rhetoric thread.
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grats on your friend being in the spotlight Kajiti~
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I know there's a guy who plays strong TF at a really high level (TeddyRO I think). Definitely viable, but takes a bit of finesse.
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lorx Wrote:Victor seems a little different after that IGN pre-release thing, am I remembering it wrong or did gravity field's upgrade used to make the stun happen faster?
The IGN video said "well they changed what gravity field's upgrade does since they sent this to us"
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Played against a Viktor EAAAARLY morning today... was too easy to fight. Ended up going 12/3 as Pantheon.
Also, before that I had a really nice game as Panth where I went mid vs Ashe. Never knew what hit her :3 My Q took her down to less than a 3rd of her health after 2 hits which made he play pretty defensively for a while until she got to 6. Ulted me, but I got the kill on her.
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lorx Wrote:I'd understand the "It's obvious you were being serious omg" if I didn't use an obvious meme, FotM cliche, and a build with two merc treads. Two boots! Metagolem! That alone is a giant stamp of "jk". I can't figure out why that's being taken seriously by anybody.
But I digress, there's no point in me bickering over your opinion of my post. LoL thread, not rhetoric thread.
Except Metagolem was spawned over the fact that the particular build did work pretty well with most tanky DPS champs. The fact that the "core" items made a person by themselves catapult it to meme status, but it still retained the seriousness that is the viability of the build. If anything, you screwed up by using a meme with some factual serious matter behind it, unlike many of the other memes that are spawned purely for lolololol.
Rhetoric may be unrelated to LoL, but perspective is. A couple other people and I saw you as trying to make it as fact, and then you later play the "oh I'm joking" card. That doesn't change the fact that we saw it as serious instead of a joke.
I've manipulated the outcomes of many games where my teammates and opponents are less than bright. For example, I know that my buddies will inevitably make the mistake of getting too close to enemy champions that they really shouldn't be close to. When that happens, the enemy jumps on him. What I do is stay in range of my buddy and/or out of sight of the enemy, so that my buddy unwittingly plays the bait. Depending on what champ I'm playing, I'm either the person that saves his ass, or I save his ass and kill the assailant. Fking champion magnet gets me free gold and exp, it's great. Works particularly well when I'm Anivia, since most champs with gap closers are melees, and they usually only have one gap closer.
Predicting the habits and plays of your opponents also has a part in map awareness. You will never be gank-proof due to randomness and uncertainty (you could be camping next to the outer top tower, only to find that all 5 enemy champs have decided to tower dive you while your teammates are wailing at their inhibitor turret), but you can drastically increase your gains by farming lanes or jungle creeps if you can guess within certainty where the other champions are and what they're doing.
Let's say for example that Blitzcrank comes to gank you, and he throws out his Rocket Grab at the earliest opportunity when you're wide open and visible. He may or may not get you the first time, but now you have a reading on how he plays. The next time I return to my lane and dish out pwnage, I'll know better how to evade him the next time he ganks. Ideally you would ward the approach locations, but let's assume that for whatever reason there are no wards. If and when he comes when I have the lane pushed, I can simply juke his Rocket Grab by either going off in a different direction, stopping in place when he uses his skillshot of doom, or Flash.
In Southperry.net, the mods and rules are very relaxed, and so we can engage in all sorts of shenanigans. However, I know many other places, especially irl courts, where written communication must be made carefully, since the essences of bodily expression and tone are lost, and people are eager to jump on you for any single thing (LoL GD anyone?).
(That turned out longer than I'd originally planned lol, but I suppose motivation is at work here.)
Eddikins Wrote:grats on your friend being in the spotlight Kajiti~
Uh he's been in a couple spotlights already. Granted, I didn't notice at first xD He says he gets friend requests everytime he shows up in a spotlight.
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madanthony Wrote:I know there's a guy who plays strong TF at a really high level (TeddyRO I think). Definitely viable, but takes a bit of finesse. Dyrus also plays a killer TF every once in a while.
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Interesting, what do they build TF as?
Rayquaza2233 Wrote:The IGN video said "well they changed what gravity field's upgrade does since they sent this to us"
Ah forgot about that, thanks.
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full AP. farm the mid lane and use your free teleport to gank all the lanes
check dyrus' videos, they're pretty sick http://solomid.net/videos.php?champ=twis...results=24
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wobbufet Wrote:full AP. farm the mid lane and use your free teleport to gank all the lanes
check dyrus' videos, they're pretty sick http://solomid.net/videos.php?champ=twis...results=24
I'll have to check that out, I like TF but never really could figure how to play him right.
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