KMST 1.2.413 - More Skill Changes (2)
#81
Wait.... where does it stat he forgot about Lilin. If anything, it strikes me more like he just stopped talking to her and moved with his life, just deciding that talking about her was a bit of a hush hush deal. Now Aran, I can understand. He never saw Aran and gave up on him exsisting. (Also iirc, the new KoC quest line has Neinheart send you to speak with Lilin.)
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#82
HighOnMushrooms Wrote:[video=youtube;fe2BtyCzuFs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe2BtyCzuFs[/video]
Now with subtitles~
(Thanks to JayShee of EllinForest)
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#83
HighOnMushrooms Wrote:Now with subtitles~
(Thanks to JayShee of EllinForest)

0:44
"We have decided to have the Black Magician conference here in Ereb"

YEAH
SEEMS LIKE A GREAT IDEA
LET'S INVITE THE GUYS WHO WANT TO KICK OUR ASSES
TO ALL GET TOGETHER
IN OUR BACK YARD
SURE
NOTHING WILL GO WRONG
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#84
Raul Wrote:0:44
"We have decided to have the Black Magician conference here in Ereb"

YEAH
SEEMS LIKE A GREAT IDEA
LET'S INVITE THE GUYS WHO WANT TO KICK OUR ASSES
TO ALL GET TOGETHER
IN OUR BACK YARD
SURE
NOTHING WILL GO WRONG

Wait wait wait wait!

That's not what she meant at all! Either she meant a peace talk ordeal or a conference in how to deal with said basterd who is trying to raep her. They couldn't do anything to her, so Black Magician just ordered the Sadistic Sisters (Orchid and Lotus) to kill the Empress, not realizing such an action might cause him unwanted and unneeded harm due to the island's defense mechanism when their Empress goes boom.

She dies, Ereve activates Mourning Sorrow Doom Cannon, Black Mage is hit for over 9000 damage and has to spend the rest of the war running with his tail between his legs, destroying everything he passes along the way.
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#85
He made a tiny mistake on that one. It's not the whole army. It says a commander of the Black Magician.
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#86
Spadow Wrote:He made a tiny mistake on that one. It's not the whole army. It says a commander of the Black Magician.

Ah.
That makes sense.
Seemed like a convention of all the practitioners of Black Magic.
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#87
[video=youtube;p9cDBYSh97U]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9cDBYSh97U[/video]

Different translation by me.
Poor Phantom...
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#88
Spadow Wrote:[video=youtube;p9cDBYSh97U]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9cDBYSh97U[/video]

Different translation.
interesting video... nexon should start to do an entire anime of Maple Story... and not that crap that presented Madhouse...
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#89
Dark Zero Wrote:interesting video... nexon should start to do an entire anime of Maple Story... and not that crap that presented Madhouse...

In case you're wondering, the recent animations are made by Studio Animal.
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#90
I can`t access their site at the moment, but if I recall, they are new to the animation series buisness, and they had some cell phone animation going. If that is finished, it might not be too far out to say it might happen, but I know that it would be a good move for them as maplestory already has a good sized fanbase. Not to mention, Nexon seems to be a very active partner.
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#91
Ok so when you make a Phantom that video is played, just like Mercedes and DS, after that you're in present Ereve (since theres no way Neinheart's people have been wating for Arans awaking since day one), right? Nothing else inbetween?
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#92
Dunno if it will be played in game, but it's currently on the site. I am a bit doubtful that it will show up in game due to this.
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#93
kimicatdemon Wrote:Dunno if it will be played in game, but it's currently on the site. I am a bit doubtful that it will show up in game due to this.

Due to... what?
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#94
It being on the site. I find it really weird that Mercedes/Demon Slayer's videos were: Simply previewed on live TV commercial (in case with Mercedes) or Not seen at all until they were debuted in the initial class release. (Demon Slayer's case.)
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#95
TheThunderBandit Wrote:I think that Aswan will be a new area around Ariant. Why? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aswan Aswan was an ancient city in southern Egypt. It could be this or possibly the old mining town that was destroyed by Zakum.

UNDER Ariant. It's an underground city.
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#96
Elven Emily Wrote:UNDER Ariant. It's an underground city.

We've probably never heard of it.
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#97
Corazon Wrote:Wait wait wait wait!

That's not what she meant at all! Either she meant a peace talk ordeal or a conference in how to deal with said basterd who is trying to raep her. They couldn't do anything to her, so Black Magician just ordered the Sadistic Sisters (Orchid and Lotus) to kill the Empress, not realizing such an action might cause him unwanted and unneeded harm due to the island's defense mechanism when their Empress goes boom.

She dies, Ereve activates Mourning Sorrow Doom Cannon, Black Mage is hit for over 9000 damage and has to spend the rest of the war running with his tail between his legs, destroying everything he passes along the way.

What's this Ereve's defense mechanism which activates when the Empress dies you're talking about? I do know of a protection system Ereve has, but, from what I remember, it was more like.. an invisible shield preventing any Black Wings members or people related to the Black Magician from entering it. A defense system which has been proved useless since Eleanor of the Black Wings was able to enter Ereve and put a curse on it (which caused the transformation of everyone in stone until it was broken) after tricking Dunamis (a Cygnus Knight) into allowing her in and trapping him. This is in the Cygnus Knights' level 120 questline. Another example is the level 70 one, with Baroq, Master of Disguise of the Black Wings, being able to enter Ereve thanks to his transformation abilities and steal something from them (it was a stone with magical powers or something like that).

I still don't get the conference shown in Phantom's tutorial. Is that YET another conference with a Black Magician's general (this time Hilla)? Why would they want to talk with her? Or were they just talking about how to organise the fight against the Black Mage and Hilla was not invited? Is Hilla trying to brainwash them into believing that she is the righteous Empress while Cygnus isn't, by handing her the Skyia, a treasure which is supposed to shine in the hands of an Empress, and showing them that it doesn't shine in her hands? Because that's what I've understood, but I might be wrong.

There are still many things not clear to me in the storyline. I hope someone will clear them up.

EDIT: Also, wasn't Eleanor supposed to be YET another Black Magician's general? Just how many are there? Weren't they supposed to be seven?
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#98
Combattente Wrote:What's this Ereve's defense mechanism which activates when the Empress dies you're talking about? I do know of a protection system Ereve has, but, from what I remember, it was more like.. an invisible shield preventing any Black Wings members or people related to the Black Magician from entering it. A defense system which has been proved useless since Eleanor of the Black Wings was able to enter Ereve and put a curse on it (which caused the transformation of everyone in stone until it was broken) after tricking Dunamis (a Cygnus Knight) into allowing her in and trapping him. This is in the Cygnus Knights' level 120 questline. Another example is the level 70 one, with Baroq, Master of Disguise of the Black Wings, being able to enter Ereve thanks to his transformation abilities and steal something from them (it was a stone with magical powers or something like that).

Wow, you took what I said quite literally when I clearly meant it as a joke. Although a few parts were on the money, the rest of what I said was done so in joke context. Let me clarify what I was getting at:

Quote:conference in how to deal with said basterd who is trying to raep her.
Quote:how to deal with said basterd who is trying to raep her.
Quote:said basterd who is trying to raep her.
Quote:trying to raep her.
Quote: raep

In a lolicon anime, this is not possible due to outrage from angry Christian and Jewish mothers. So honestly this part was a serious joke.

Quote:They couldn't do anything to her, so Black Magician just ordered the Sadistic Sisters (Orchid and Lotus) to kill the Empress

Bold part is where I want to focus fire on first. Orchid and Lotus are.... um.... Team Rocket meets Wonder Twins meets Twinrova Sisters. Proof? Mercedes mentions that Orchid can transform, but in the dialogue prior, mentions that she was glad Lotus wasn't around. So my guess is that Orchid relies on Lotus to activate said transformation (further proving the whole "twins possess limited telepathy" theory), or that their fighting power is greater when they're together than when they are apart. Not to mention, Orchid's dialogue gives me a hint that if her sister is anything like her, then they both fall under Sadistic - thus the nickname "Sadistic Sisters".

Next is the line that Shinsoo says in the first few moments of the trailer: "I was unable to save her". This implies that the Sadistic Twins did SOMETHING to Shinsoo that broke Aria's immortality, thus allowing her death. This also proves that Shinsoo has a power BEYOND what we know, and that Cygnus's immortality depends on her. How much so, we don't entirely know without knowing more about Aria's reign as Empress. That, sadly, requires a deeper dive into Phantom's past, which Nexon probably cannot give us in current form (this is stemmed from Aria's second line: "No matter how many times you come here, I will not hand over the treasure of Ereve" - implying that this isn't the first time they've met).

Quote:not realizing such an action might cause him unwanted and unneeded harm due to the island's defense mechanism when their Empress goes boom.

This was a witty remark, but most likely the death of Aria pissed off more than Phantom (think: Shinsoo wasn't the only one on that island when Aria kicked the bucket, I'm sure. What about her royal guard? Chief Knights?).

Next is the fact that Phantom quite literally knocked the stuffing out of Lotus (how else do you imagine Lotus' spirit got in the predicament it is now?). If Phantom was pissed, what do you think Shinsoo was like after recovering?

Quote:She dies, Ereve activates Mourning Sorrow Doom Cannon, Black Mage is hit for over 9000 damage and has to spend the rest of the war running with his tail between his legs, destroying everything he passes along the way.

This entire sentence is a joke in the fact that so far, the Black Mage has been doing a crappy job of destroying the Maple World since he's come back. In anime, the mega villain who shows up last is usually known to be an incompetent basterd.

Now, why have we only seen the Black Mage in retrospect (AKA trailers with that bloody Eregos-ripoff of a robe) whenever he's confronted, but we never actually get in-game sprites? Simple: He's an utter failure, and his generals are stalling for time, hoping nobody notices how weak he really is to be calling orders from the rear.

I mean, think about it: We don't even have all the heroes right now, and the Black Mage is chilling deep in the Verne continent. If it took so many peeps and five heroes who lost their memories/strength/lives/fortunes/whatever to kill him the first time, why not take advantage of the situation now, when nobody expects it, and pull a cheap stunt out of his rear and destroy the Maple World? He's already come close to making half the Maple World believe that Cyggie is a bloody traitor, so why not keep that momentum?

There's but one answer, and as soon as you accept that answer, you accept that the Generals are stall-devices for the real truth: The Black Mage. Is. A. Bloody. Failure. An incompetent loser who can't blow up the world on his own and prefers the textbook cliche method of destroying the world.

The "Over 9000" was a pun saying the Black Mage most likely lost more than his physical form in that fight. I mean, we don't exactly know the WHOLE story of how that fight went down (all we know is the outcome: Black Mage dies, 3 heroes get scatterbrained, one dies, and the last one is swallowed by the threads of time until otherwise remembered). So the Black Mage probably lost his dignity, his pride, and all that hard work he spent in raising a rather pointless army when he could have just blown the world up himself (hey, if his revival caused the Big Bang, imagine what else he's capable of!).

Quote:I still don't get the conference shown in Phantom's tutorial. Is that YET another conference with a Black Magician's general (this time Hilla)? Why would they want to talk with her? Or were they just talking about how to organise the fight against the Black Mage and Hilla was not invited? Is Hilla trying to brainwash them into believing that she is the righteous Empress while Cygnus isn't, by handing her the Skyia, a treasure which is supposed to shine in the hands of an Empress, and showing them that it doesn't shine in her hands? Because that's what I've understood, but I might be wrong.

There are still many things not clear to me in the storyline. I hope someone will clear them up.

EDIT: Also, wasn't Eleanor supposed to be YET another Black Magician's general? Just how many are there? Weren't they supposed to be seven?

This is speculation, so bear with me here. Most likely, the Skyia that Hilla possessed is a fake, and Phantom knows this. Why? Shinsoo more than likely gave him the real one. And Phantom's lived his pre-hero life as the Mask DeMasque of Maple World - a genuine criminal, and probably a minor villain as far as Maple's history is concerned; that is, until he falls in love with Aria and she gets killed.

Think. If Cygnus didn't realize it was a fake, who in that room would know otherwise? I'll give you a hint: you're viewing that meeting in his eyes.


As for the Generals thing, most likely Eleanor is a General. However, I can sorta explain how Orchid and Lotus fit into a single General spot.

First, reference numero uno: Mercedes storyline, finale. Mercedes mentions that Lotus not being there makes the fight winnable. Then in the dialogue with Athena that follows, she mentions that Orchid has a transformation power. Most likely, she needs Lotus there to activate it. My theory: Orchid and Lotus are two halves to an even greater whole - divided they are weak, united they are strong. Think Twinrova or Masamune with this.

Second, reference numero dos: Demon Slayer storyline, intro. Of those present at the conference, only Demon Slayer, Arkarium, Von Leon, and Orchid are present. Even IF Lotus wasn't revealed (which if this is even significant, Nexon needs to redo that scene to include the twin's fusion form when they reveal it), it means that this scene took place midway through the First War. Thus, only Orchid is shown here, because Phantom has incapacitated Lotus at this point. Thus, Orchid takes the place of their fusion and thus, the Wing Master is only half of what it once was.
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#99
Or maybe the black mage is just like the heroes, after his revival, he doesn't have full power and can't take all the whoe world in it's state so the "stall" generals come and help him on that stalling so he can regain all power but thing is heroes are rising, so is a race against time.
About orchid and her sis or vice versa (don't know who is who atm) maybe her sister is your typical "i don't care about those meetings" and only orchid go then she tells the plan or what was the meeting.
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ElTwice Wrote:Or maybe the black mage is just like the heroes, after his revival, he doesn't have full power and can't take all the whoe world in it's state so the "stall" generals come and help him on that stalling so he can regain all power but thing is heroes are rising, so is a race against time.
About orchid and her sis or vice versa (don't know who is who atm) maybe her sister is your typical "i don't care about those meetings" and only orchid go then she tells the plan or what was the meeting.

Orchid is the one with the ponytails. She's the general we currently have in gMS. Lotus is the one with shorter hair and lacking a cap.

And I disagree with your statement about Lotus not being there. I mean, why only her, DS, Arkarium and Von Leon? If Hilla were alive, you'd think she'd be loyal enough to warrant participating. Same with Eleanor - more so in her case because she has a LOT more free time than Hilla would, esp. if Hilla's running a larger scale force that needs round-the-clock maintenance.

I would also disagree with the theory that the Black Mage can't do much in his current state - look at what simply reviving the basterd does to the world. You would THINK that if he can shatter the world just by being reborn, he can destroy a whole lot more.

EDIT - Should also mention he was revived in the same exact place he was born to begin with (as a human, that is).
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