Ignore def doesn't stack

SE/crit ring is taken off for these tests I have max marksmenship on the bm.
First to prove lv 0 ambition

Range with crappy set

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Range with hob set

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I'll let someone else do the calcs because I'm sure ill mess up
Lowest Nub set dmg

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Lowest Hob set dmg

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Minimum with hob set should be 5573.
That SS proves that the hob set 15% ignore has no effect.

As far as I can tell about this topic, it was 100% proven in kms by some dude on insoya who wrote a huge huge article about potentials and the chances to get which stats everything, and the damage ignore was confirmed that it didn't stack, it only doesn't stack BUT it only takes the lower %. So if you have both 30 and 15, it'd only use 15 and ignore the 30. So I'm assuming if you have 15 ignore and trying to use leafre set, might as well cube it out, which I plan on doing soon.

I think this is the link he was talking about:

http://www.insoya.com/bbs/zboard.php?id=...category=1

I think this is the link he was talking about:

http://www.insoya.com/bbs/zboard.php?id=...category=1

No..

Semi bump.
Anyone tested whether codex or other things with ignore def have been fixed since Jump? Probably fools hope~

Semi bump.
Anyone tested whether codex or other things with ignore def have been fixed since Jump? Probably fools hope~

15% works. 30% does not.

I did some minor tests on my Marksman not long after the jump patch and came to the conclusion that ignore def from other sources works and stacks, but Ignore Def from the Codex does not work at all.

Once I can get back on MS I'll do it again and post the math behind it in case there's a huge flaw in my calculations.

When I've calculated with my 15%/15% PDR bow, it seemed it didn't work at all. Weapon, Codex, Ambition, or anything.

Just tested Codex using Victoria Friends (0 ignore def), Mu Lung (15%) and Leafre (30%) sets.
Same observed damage range with all three.

My Combat Mastery (40%) and Ambition (10%) do seem to work, however. I hit up to 94.86% of my damage max (using regular attack) on Sand Rats, which supposedly have 10 PDR.

I don't have a weapon with ignore def to test with.

Don't monsters have an actual defence value along with the % damage reduction?

Don't monsters have an actual defence value along with the % damage reduction?

Since big bang, that value doesn't exist/is not relevant.

Since big bang, that value doesn't exist/is not relevant.

It was there for a while after Big Bang, but all the old defense values have been removed.

Since big bang, that value doesn't exist/is not relevant.

It is nexon you know.. They may have just left it in :/

It is nexon you know.. They may have just left it in :/

It doesn't do anything anyway. Only PDR/MDR matter.

So...what? Threaten reduces PDR by 30% then?

So...what? Threaten reduces PDR by 30% then?

yes.

and after legendary patch (part 1), leafre set is still busted.....

So...what? Threaten reduces PDR by 30% then?

It does. I see my damage shoot up everytime I threaten and everytime it turns off I lose a chunk, too.

It does. I see my damage shoot up everytime I threaten and everytime it turns off I lose a chunk, too.

Someone should do tests on that AoE Night Lord debuff... Does it stack with threaten? Because if so, paladins have a new best friend. Not only because of the insanely reduced defense, but also because it's even more boosted with combat orders.

There's gotta be something OP about accelbot (mechanics)

I used today's AP reset and stopped adding AP once i hit 10k max range. Without using accelbot, my max hit with tank mode basic shots was 9.2k (I hit this almost exactly, never higher) on 10%PDR mobs.

Sources of ignore def: 15% on gun, 15% on codex, 20% on atomic hammer (proven to leak to work on other skills).

Clearly only the 20% ignore def from atomic hammer is kicking in... and the one on my gun is being useless.


Then I remember that I have accel bot... I give it a shot... and get mindpineapple'd:

Edit: That's me using tank mode's basic attack that deals 100% damage... so it's great for testing out range


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I hit 9975 when my max range is 10002. I even hit 9991 once, though I didn't grab the SS in time... how the hell did I hit 99.9% of my range?

20% from skill then 15% accel bot... at BEST I'd get 35% ignore if it's additive. Hell, even if accel bot MAGICALLY makes everything stack... that's 20%(atomic hammer)+15%(gun)+15%(codex)+15%(accelbot)=65% ignore additively.... theoretical max of 9650 damage... wtp's going on here?


Edit: sources of def ignore pics:

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