KMST 1.2.411 - Phantom
Spadow Wrote:Awesome stuff

Wow, this class is shaping up to be pretty cool. Hope their bossing damage is at least adequate. Otherwise, seems like an extremely versatile and fun class.
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Hoping they get shadow partner.
It seems weird to see such a small amount of numbers after playing a dualblade and shadower.
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So if I copy Combo Attack, blue orbs will fly around my Phantom? :f6:
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GoreParadise Wrote:So if I copy Combo Attack, blue orbs will fly around my Phantom? :f6:

Exactly.
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Killmeplsok Wrote:Exactly.
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Makes me feel like I'm playing a private server...
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I forgot to tell this but there is a limitation with the Skill Steal system.
My Talent of the Phantom Thief IV is currently at level 20 which means I can steal skills with an effect up to level 20.

However...If I steal level 8 Dragon Strike from another user, then I will also have Dragon Strike level 8 even though my Talent of the Phantom Thief IV is level 20. There is no way to raise it except stealing from a different user who does have level 20 Dragon Strike.
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Anyone knows if I can get the passive effect by stealing Haste(passively gives you maxspeed+20%)?
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Spadow Wrote:I forgot to tell this but there is a limitation with the Skill Steal system.
My Talent of the Phantom Thief IV is currently at level 20 which means I can steal skills with an effect up to level 20.

However...If I steal level 8 Dragon Strike from another user, then I will also have Dragon Strike level 8 even though my Talent of the Phantom Thief IV is level 20. There is no way to raise it except stealing from a different user who does have level 20 Dragon Strike.

I Thought That Was Obvious.

Actually, can you steal Assassinate/Shadower Instinct?
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I have to admit, I am actually really happy Nexon has the balls to release a mimic class. Most of the time MMOs with rigid and fixed classes tend avoid a mimic class at all cost, unless it just mimics monsters, but then it really isn't a mimic and more of a Blue mage.

Though I got a bad feeling that a few of NL's and Bucc skills got removed/changed just so this class couldn't get them.
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Umizi Wrote:Though I got a bad feeling that a few of NL's and Bucc skills got removed/changed just so this class couldn't get them.

Battleship died for this too, I bet. ;-;
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Yeah, I'm glad Nexon finally embraced the fact that all they do lately is cannibalize existing material to make "new" material. This is the best possible implementation of that.

Also this class is likely going to be total crap for bossing damage, so once the damage sluts realize they can't optimize this into a doom cannon they'll clear out. On top of that, less bishop mules will be made just for HS.

Someone please find a list of stealable skills. I can't wait to make my batman.

Addendum: how does the mechanic interact with CO? If you steal a (buffed to) level 32 skill with level 32 talent, will it stay that way? Or even be recorded off of the buffed skill level?
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Exidous Wrote:Also this class is likely going to be total crap for bossing damage, so once the damage sluts realize they can't optimize this into a doom cannon they'll clear out.

This is actually probably the strongest character to date. I think the only character stronger than this in theory is Mercedes.
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Given they seem to have less boosting skills to back up their main attack than the original holders of those attacks, how? Is it entirely the magic of combo attack?
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Exidous Wrote:Given they seem to have less boosting skills to back up their main attack than the original holders of those attacks, how? Is it entirely the magic of combo attack?

My pap solo w/o threaten...
rl solo starts at 1:27

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Exidous Wrote:Given they seem to have less boosting skills to back up their main attack than the original holders of those attacks, how? Is it entirely the magic of combo attack?

If you can steal Continual Aiming, it's a permanent debuff on a monster, so it shouldn't be removed when you switch to Rapid Fire with Combo Attack. They have their own +30% damage and 30% Defense Ignore, and 220% Final Attack activated based on their own critical hit rate. They're definitely not bad DPS.
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One man's "not bad" is a damage slut's "total crap"

I look forward to your calculations, but I wouldn't bet on continual aiming working that way being as buff effects end if you swap the skill.
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Guys.

What happens if they steal GM skills? :3
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Another quick question, if you steal a skill when your talent of the phantom thief is lower level than the skill,
When your talent of the phantom thief skill is increased, does the skill level also increase?
(What I mean is, does it mean that (skill) is recorded at XYZ level, or skill is recorded at it's own level and can only be used at XYZ level?)
(Confusing but...well I don't know how else to ask.)
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Exidous Wrote:One man's "not bad" is a damage slut's "total crap"

I look forward to your calculations, but I wouldn't bet on continual aiming working that way being as buff effects end if you swap the skill.

When I say not bad, I mean that the only characters with higher DPS are Mercedes, and Demon Slayer before this patch's nerf to Demon Slayer. In theory anyways.
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OverdriverxxP Wrote:Another quick question, if you steal a skill when your talent of the phantom thief is lower level than the skill,
When your talent of the phantom thief skill is increased, does the skill level also increase?
(What I mean is, does it mean that (skill) is recorded at XYZ level, or skill is recorded at it's own level and can only be used at XYZ level?)
(Confusing but...well I don't know how else to ask.)

It adds to phantom thief even if you have a dif skill there, so erm

2 in phantom thief when you steal a 20 rapid fire or w/e will only be at the skill lvl 2 stats


30 in phantom thief when you steal a 20 rapid fire or w/e will only be at the skill lvl 20 stats
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