KMST 1.2.411 - Phantom
Bribery Wrote:lol they can get Holy Symbol and Advanced Bless. Bye bye Bishops.

No...? Don't they only have the skill for a short time and they need a bishop to steal it from in the first place?
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Takebacker Wrote:No...? Don't they only have the skill for a short time and they need a bishop to steal it from in the first place?

If by short time you mean until they decide to remove it, and by a Bishop to steal it from you mean find a random Bishop in the FM, yes.
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Takebacker Wrote:No...? Don't they only have the skill for a short time and they need a bishop to steal it from in the first place?

I thought it stayed until you choose to remove it, based on this post:
maplefreak26 Wrote:For Basilers:

You can use the skill you stole even after the character in which you stole a skill from has left the map. The skill stays with you permanently unless you choose to remove it.



But even then, given how many people have HS mules, it wouldn't be too hard to get HS and Bless and toss the Bishop aside.
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Dark Zero Wrote:My bad... Arans, Evans and Resistance are safe... and no Trolldriver for Phantom Big Grin

I kept thinking this and now I'm saying this out loud for once: thank the peach I'm an Aran.
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babagreensheep Wrote:EDIT: also, about soul steal, it seems like the skills they steal are the exact same level as the person they stole it from?

Soul Steal steals buffs off monsters.

You're thinking about Talent of the Phantom Thief.

1st and 2nd Job skills cap off at Lv20 even if the target has it at a higher skill level. Not sure if the same applies to 3rd and 4th.
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Hanabira.Kage Wrote:
1st and 2nd Job skills cap off at Lv20 even if the target has it at a higher skill level. Not sure if the same applies to 3rd and 4th.
Are there even any 1st and 2nd job skills that require more than 20 SP though? Tongue
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Hanabira.Kage Wrote:
1st and 2nd Job skills cap off at Lv20 even if the target has it at a higher skill level. Not sure if the same applies to 3rd and 4th.
Are there even any 1st and 2nd job skills that require more than 20 SP though? Tongue
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OMG just realized they can essentially be a bishop that attacks stuff. they can take heal, HS, and adv blessing and use all 3 (assuming they can use 1 per job advance). Take magic guard at the beginning and you have a bishop that does more DPS than a buccaneer! (or something liek that)
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Hanabira.Kage Wrote:
Soul Steal steals buffs off monsters.

You're thinking about Talent of the Phantom Thief.

1st and 2nd Job skills cap off at Lv20 even if the target has it at a higher skill level. Not sure if the same applies to 3rd and 4th.

According to Shakar, its the same for 3rd and 4th
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Arrol Wrote:According to Shakar, its the same for 3rd and 4th

Checked the skill tables. It caps at 20 for 3rd Job and 30 for 4th.

Totally missed the skill because of the whole "MP (bunch of Korean) MP" thing.

p.s. I'm a deluxe refrigerator. Sounds prestigious.
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Worthyness Wrote:OMG just realized they can essentially be a bishop that attacks stuff. they can take heal, HS, and adv blessing and use all 3 (assuming they can use 1 per job advance). Take magic guard at the beginning and you have a bishop that does more DPS than a buccaneer! (or something liek that)

If they stay as they are right now, they will need to steal a damage multiplier skill to increase their damage and a supportive buff to increase their survivability. Its will be hard to choice when most of the best skills for that are in the same advancements as HS and Advanced bless.
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I, for one, am ecstatic about the nerfs! Biggrin

True, Cannoneers didn't really need any nerfs, but I honestly felt that they were dealing more damage than they actually needed to do. Even with these nerfs, most cannoneers are going to be one shotting everything from level 10 to 80 at least.

Don't even get me started on the nerfs that Demon Slayers and Mercedes(es?) needed. I can't even count the number of complaints I have about them.
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byakugan Wrote:If they stay as they are right now, they will need to steal a damage multiplier skill to increase their damage and a supportive buff to increase their survivability. Its will be hard to choice when most of the best skills for that are in the same advancements as HS and Advanced bless.

Come to think of it, Phantom will pretty much just be relying on that 80% passive evasion to survive...it's been a while since a class without any drain skills has appeared.

Come to think of it, Steal Drain Arrow = Awesome.

Note: I'm ignoring Judgment's Drain Card since it's highly unpredictable. A 100% chance to convert 5% damage dealt into HP isn't too shabby though. If you actually do draw the Drain Card, surviving will be the least of your concerns for a while.
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anyone else getting tired of revamp after revamps Rolleyes jeez inb4 another pirate/thief revamp cuz they're not good enough yet, then another legend buff, then more adventurer buffs Rolleyes
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Hanabira.Kage Wrote:
Come to think of it, Phantom will pretty much just be relying on that 80% passive evasion to survive...it's been a while since a class without any drain skills has appeared.

Come to think of it, Steal Drain Arrow = Awesome.

Note: I'm ignoring Judgment's Drain Card since it's highly unpredictable. A 100% chance to convert 5% damage dealt into HP isn't too shabby though. If you actually do draw the Drain Card, surviving will be the least of your concerns for a while.

They have +50% Evasion Rate and 30% Dodge Rate. They're not the same thing.
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Liteness Wrote:anyone else getting tired of revamp after revamps Rolleyes jeez inb4 another pirate/thief revamp cuz they're not good enough yet, then another legend buff, then more adventurer buffs Rolleyes

I'm more tired of hearing this. Someone had a signature saying that Nexon doesn't balance classes, they just move them from top to bottom.
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Liteness Wrote:anyone else getting tired of revamp after revamps Rolleyes jeez inb4 another pirate/thief revamp cuz they're not good enough yet, then another legend buff, then more adventurer buffs Rolleyes
Let them play with it till we get the last new class (hopefully) and then do the final revamp and resume to adding actual content (a small town here and there is not the same as orbis, ludi, leafre).
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JoeTang Wrote:They have +50% Evasion Rate and 30% Dodge Rate. They're not the same thing.

Huh?

Does one of them make the next hit critical or something?
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Looking at it again, they probably have +40% Evasion Rate and 40% Dodge Rate.
Hanabira.Kage Wrote:
Huh?

Does one of them make the next hit critical or something?

Why would you think that?
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Arrol Wrote:I'm more tired of hearing this. Someone had a signature saying that Nexon doesn't balance classes, they just move them from top to bottom.

Sounds like Ret Paladins from WoW.
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