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Rick Wrote:That's Islam for you. It's a vile religion. You can't attack on religions or religious people! People always throw a tantrum when I say something against them. We need to understand this is part of their culture and we should respect it.
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Rick Wrote:What does the Quran say should happen.
Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him. (Hadith Al Buhkari vol. 9:57)
Verse 9:123 - "Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you."
etc etc
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Satellite Wrote:You can't attack on religions or religious people! People always throw a tantrum when I say something against them. We need to understand this is part of their culture and we should respect it.
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how many times must rayquaza repeat himself? just asking
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Satellite Wrote:You can't attack on religions or religious people! People always throw a tantrum when I say something against them.
The difference between you and me is I don't throw my message an extravagant parade complete with 50 man marching band every time the chance arises and sometimes when it doesn't. That's what people hate about you.
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Ex-muslim here.
The 5 pillars of islam doesn't really advocate this type of behaviour, although somewhat unrelated. Nowhere does it say anything in relation to this in the entire Quran, like Rayquaza said.
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Remember when the Pope ordered to "destroy the muslim race" and so Christians went and roasted their babies on spits in the name of God, good times.
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Nepi Wrote:Remember when the Pope ordered to "destroy the muslim race" and so Christians went and roasted their babies on spits in the name of God, good times.
Precisely my point. It's easy to control people when you hold the only source of "truth".
With a bit of luck, both sides will see this all as ridiculous in due time.
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Satellite Wrote:You can't attack on religions or religious people! People always throw a tantrum when I say something against them. We need to understand this is part of their culture and we should respect it.
But when someone's religion has completely thrown something like this out of proportion I won't understand or accept it. The girl was raped. And betrayed by her family, country and religion. When things written down in a book (which may or may not be true, most likely the latter) become more important than your own family. Something isn't right.
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Satellite Wrote:You can't attack on religions or religious people! People always throw a tantrum when I say something against them. We need to understand this is part of their culture and we should respect it.
inb4 Sarah and KhainiWest
Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him. (Hadith Al Buhkari vol. 9:57)
Verse 9:123 - "Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you."
etc etc
You forgot to mention your atheist and that religion's are full of ignorant people who believe in unicorns. Oh and to brush your teeth
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Rick Wrote:What does the Quran say should happen.
This is likely based on the misinterpretation of "Do not approach (the bounds of) adultery" (17:32). However, there are supporting scriptures which clarify this like Heavy punishment has been prescribed for this crime, and the order has not been qualified by any conditions. Since the violation of chastity of a woman is forbidden in Islam, a Muslim who perpetrates this crime cannot escape punishment. (Maudoodi) and During the time of the Prophet (saw) punishment was inflicted on the rapist on the solitary evidence of the woman who was raped by him. Wa'il ibn Hujr reports of an incident when a woman was raped. Later, when some people came by, she identified and accused the man of raping her. They seized him and brought him to Allah's messenger, who said to the woman, "Go away, for Allâh has forgiven you," but of the man who had raped her, he said, "Stone him to death." (Tirmidhi and Abu Dawud). Pretty sure Afghan Muslims are of the kind that say "pineapple the prophet's sayings the quran is the only way to go" (which is wrong)
Durex Wrote:But when someone's religion has completely thrown something like this out of proportion I won't understand or accept it. The girl was raped. And betrayed by her family, country and religion. When things written down in a book (which may or may not be true, most likely the latter) become more important than your own family. Something isn't right.
are you actually reading anything i'm posting or
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CarrionCrow Wrote:Ignorant people should learn the difference between religion and culture.
Sums it up nicely.
This thread makes me sad.
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I think a lot of people are using sarcasm in this thread.
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From Wikipedia on Honor Killing
wikipedia Wrote:According to Widney, Brown, the advocacy director of Human Rights Watch, deaths by family members are mostly labeled honor killings in Islamic countries. However, as noted by Tahira Shaid Khan, a professor of womens issues in Pakistan, within the Qur'an there is no mentioning of anything that allows for or justifies honor killings.[18] The first and most basic right in the Qur'an that every Muslim is expected to follow is, in fact, the right to life. [19] As written in the Qur'an,
That if anyone slays a human being unless it be [in punishment] for murder or for spreading corruption on earth it shall be as though he had slain all mankind; whereas, if anyone saves a life, it shall be as though he had saved the lives of all mankind. (5:32) .[20]
It is thus believed that it is not Islam as a religion, but Islamic culture, and the prominent and long-standing view that women are considered property, as the sources of for honor killings.
One salient point it seems people have been missing is that the (later) article states her crime was not being raped, but reporting it late. It doesn't say how late but I would assume it was when she discovered she was pregnant. This makes her suspect of willingly engaging in extra-marital sex, which is apparently a crime in Afghanistan.
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SaptaZapta Wrote:One salient point it seems people have been missing is that the (later) article states her crime was not being raped, but reporting it late. It doesn't say how late but I would assume it was when she discovered she was pregnant. This makes her suspect of willingly engaging in extra-marital sex, which is apparently a crime in Afghanistan.
Orly? Hmm well that still doesn't make it right, but I guess makes this ridiculous situation a bit more understandable. Strange pomegranate.
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