KMS 1.2.145 - Union Revamp

I guess that's why i attend empress whenever possible. I'm not even the strongest buccaneer in khaini, much less GMS.

Shows how much people care about "beef damage".

Only becuase of the people you know and the guild your in otherwise no you wouldn't be going. only goes to show connections>damage

I guess that's why i attend empress whenever possible. I'm not even the strongest buccaneer in khaini, much less GMS.

Shows how much people care about "beef damage".

Like the above poster above me said.

Entering Boss Runs in Maplestory are like entering college (Bad example huehuehue), you either:

A) Are frigging Smart to pass all the entrance test all those shenanigans (Aka Getting your damage and hp in line to be useful in there)

B) You have the conections to skip most of the admission process, or at least make it a pineapple ton easier (Aka getting yourself a good guild that goes regularly to the bosses and always have a few spot open for non beefers damage inducers)

C) Having Crapload of money and try to buy your way in (Aka Getting a crapload of money )

Like the above poster above me said.

I wonder if you would have that argument if it wasn't for malcom's help.

Either way, your original point has been proven wrong. Damage isn't everything. By saying i need money to go on the runs you're implying that i'm a strong character when on the contrary i'm actually the weakest person there in terms of total %stat per character (attackers only) and value in equipments.

And apparently being smart = being strong. Huh. I guess strategy contribution means nothing.

I wonder if you would have that argument if it wasn't for malcom's help.

He's talking about how easy a time you had entering a boss run due to your conections, i was talking about how useful you actually are while on that boss run, except on my last comment where i too started talking about how you can actually enter in boss runs.

Either way, your original point has been proven wrong. Damage isn't everything...

Yeah... if my original point where to be "No damage = no boss runs for you", my original point is/was "No Damage = You are useless"

And apparently being smart = being strong. Huh. I guess strategy contribution means nothing.

The smart = strong part was just a analogy/reference/comparation of how smart/hardworker you have to be to enter college vs how much damage you have to pull to enter a boss run.

Oh and strategy on MS? you mean pushing monster around, often to a corner, then keep a single key pressed to do damage then ocasionally press another skill key (More often just recast of buffs) or Pot key to not die right? Wow that seems an awfully complicated strategy to contribute with.

He's talking about how easy a time you had entering a boss run due to your conections, i was talking about how useful you actually are while on that boss run, except on my last comment where i too started talking about how you can actually enter in boss runs.

And where malcom is wrong is that my connections aren't the sole reason for my involvement. A lot of the strats and possibilities of a cleaner run were contributed by me, and tried to be maintained by me. (when i was there at least) Strats that have absolutely nothing to do with my damage and instead involve stuff like singling the 1.65s, shifting her aggro from someone else to me or negating it completely, reducing her power to interrupt the flow of battle by preventing damage reflect and other attacks with barrage, among other things like resetting res when needed. None of this requires damage to appeal to the squad.

Yeah... if my original point where to be "No damage = no boss runs for you", my original point is/was "No Damage = You are useless"

Which is bulls'hit by evidence of the fact that i go to empress. If i were useless i wouldn't be going.

The smart = strong part was just a analogy/reference/comparation of how smart/hardworker you have to be to enter college vs how much damage you have to pull to enter a boss run.

LOL.

Oh and strategy on MS? you mean pushing monster around, often to a corner, then keep a single key pressed to do damage then ocasionally press another skill key (More often just recast of buffs) or Pot key to not die right? Wow that seems an awfully complicated strategy to contribute with.

Simplification is the enemy of being taken seriously. Maybe if your class wasn't the epitome of "sit and survive", and maybe if you knew what bossing in this game is really about, you would be able to back your point.

Guys nexon isnt doing pro contra for each class. They want to make all classes perfect. Everyone have now fj, shadow partner etc... The old pro and contra system is gone since Big Bang. Accept it

And where malcom is wrong is that my connections aren't the sole reason for my involvement. A lot of the strats and possibilities of a cleaner run were contributed by me, and tried to be maintained by me. (when i was there at least) Strats that have absolutely nothing to do with my damage and instead involve stuff like singling the 1.65s, shifting her aggro from someone else to me or negating it completely, reducing her power to interrupt the flow of battle by preventing damage reflect and other attacks with barrage, among other things like resetting res when needed. None of this requires damage to appeal to the squad.



Which is bulls'hit by evidence of the fact that i go to empress. If i were useless i wouldn't be going.



LOL.



Simplification is the enemy of being taken seriously. Maybe if your class wasn't the epitome of "sit and survive", and maybe if you knew what bossing in this game is really about, you would be able to back your point.

No it isn't the sole reason but it makes up a large part of it. However as someone who leads boss runs I understand that damage isn't everything someone like you who knows what the pineapple your doing is a person who wont die often can contribute to the run in more then one way. Your the type of person I would value more and take more often then the due with 300% stat who has no idea what to do other then hold down their skill button and yell at bishops for hs.

This still holds true your dpm is 0 if your dead

Is this the part of the thread where Takebacker pretends that damage isn't the utmost important thing in this rather simplistic game in an attempt to pretend that Buccaneers aren't miserable abominations born to stew in their own inadequacy?

Because I've seen this episode before on reruns at least half a dozen times.
Can we just archive it and link people to the archive instead of having the same argument, verbatim, every damn time?

Oh sweet, so now sanc works the way it should have from it's conception.

And well...that's what you get for your stupid ass survivability.

Yeah, pineapple unique skills. Let's make everything a %-fest.
I hope their next move is to turn Snipe and Pierce into Hurricane. Yes, both of them.

You're totally right about Paladins deserving it though. Cause we all know Palis are waaaaaaaaaaaaay overpowered.

No it isn't the sole reason but it makes up a large part of it.

Yeah i never disagreed with that. If varsity were the only empress squad in khaini they wouldn't take me because i don't have 200% stat.

However as someone who leads boss runs I understand that damage isn't everything someone like you who knows what the pineapple your doing is a person who wont die often can contribute to the run in more then one way. Your the type of person I would value more and take more often then the due with 300% stat who has no idea what to do other then hold down their skill button and yell at bishops for hs.

This still holds true your dpm is 0 if your dead

Exactly. Damage might be everything to a damage class, but all classes are not damage classes, therefore damage isn't everything. Even white, a DPS class, i respect for taking it beyond that and being SMART about his approaches. He stops his attacks to run away when things look like it'll be bad, he commands the entire group on what to do, he knows his class inside and out and uses that information to help him succeed as much as he can.

@above: I wasn't talking about just buccaneers. It just happens to be my main class. What the f'uck do you want me to do?

Is this the part where viaje cuts everyone down because of some complex? Brb, accounting.

Nexon created a disconnect between being good at bossing and having the best gear a long time ago. There's less reason to care if your bossing group is optimal than ever before. Therefore, no one is right!

Guys nexon isnt doing pro contra for each class. They want to make all classes perfect. Everyone have now fj, shadow partner etc... The old pro and contra system is gone since Big Bang. Accept it

Stop posting this once on every page.

Stop posting this once on every page.

Just put him on ultraignore.
It's what I do.
I haven't seen him make a useful post yet.
It took me a while to figure out what he was saying in that quote though.

I never been a damage hoar nor did i had any intention of becoming so, but the game makes it so painfully obvious that you are crap if you dont get yourself some beef damage. Main reason why i stoped playing.

This is the very belief that a majority of people have that's driving the game toward its current direction.

This is the very belief that a majority of people have that's driving the game toward its current direction.

Definitely. Nevermind that there are many other reasons for playing this game other than seeing big numbers. It's no wonder Cubes were invented.

By saying i need money to go on the runs you're implying that i'm a strong character when on the contrary i'm actually the weakest person there in terms of total %stat per character (attackers only) and value in equipments.

Only, because I'm not there

Just put him on ultraignore.
It's what I do.
I haven't seen him make a useful post yet.
It took me a while to figure out what he was saying in that quote though.

Yet? He's NEVER made a useful post in his history of being here.

=o Just noticed how each of the CKs got a skill that only needs 1 point, coolio~

Always wondered if they'd ever consider doing that.

Little question... Is there a way to get the Cygnus summons on a pre existing adventurer by doing quests like the sunset dews one?

Little question... Is there a way to get the Cygnus summons on a pre existing adventurer by doing quests like the sunset dews one?

Emphasizing this question.

Players shouldn't be punished for being long time customers.
Dedication should bring rewards, not disadvantages.

...besides, I really want a floating sprite on my Pali.

This is the very belief that a majority of people have that's driving the game toward its current direction.

You've got it backwards.

The game is designed so that "beef damage" is a necessity.
The people who believe that "beef damage" is a necessity do so because it is a fact.

Yet? He's NEVER made a useful post in his history of being here.

There's a chance he might, sometime in the (far) future.
odds of that are about 1:10^-21

There's a chance he might, sometime in the (far) future.
odds of that are about 1:10^-21

The day he does is the day Nexon removes miracle cubes.